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and you are becoming extreme to the point of being silly you think we should also deal with crime in this fashion make everyone stay at home because of the risk of a few people wanting to engage in crime? the idea is to achieve a reasonable balance get the virus under control so it can be managed use extreme measures to achieve that when that is achieved modify and relax some of the measures i don't think i'm being extreme in saying we have done a good job and a review of the extreme measures needs to happen in the near future my initial post simply wanted to point out the real numbers we are actually dealing with outside of the known clusters is about 200 across the province presently

yes and remember most of the numbers here are related to clusters we had the initial long term care issue and travel clusters from china, iran and egypt then the bc dental conference and now the mission pen issue so the ones that are not part of clusters are actually reasonably small

and you believe people like yourself who might believe they have symptoms would go out to restaurants when feeling poorly? i really don't think so i think almost everyone has gotten the message about how serious this virus issue is and the modified behaviors of people in the past month it largely why the outbreak has become more managed

yeah i believe it is right around 40 of the 58 current deaths i can find a more accurate response though but i think dr. henry mentioned that in the last day or 2 of her updates

really? how is sitting at an acceptable distance in a restaurant much different then standing in line ups at an acceptable distance for almost everything you might want to get currently i think you have built into your thinking that the level of current infections is higher then it actually is there is very little out there presently but the risk of that increasing is very real so we cannot let down our personal guard we are the ones who have to remain disciplined to keep these numbers down if we can all continue to manage distance, hand washing, staying home when unwell that is what will make the critical difference the province has a pretty good handle on where the infections are (both reported and most of the unreported cases) and have already shown they can act quickly and effectively when they see indications of new cases/outbreaks anyway... this will happen it's simply about timing and listening to what our experts determine is the smartest way to slowly open things up again but i don't think reopening restaurants in a restrictive manner is the most important issue it just happens to be a bit higher on my personal list of priorities anyway, i have posted this topic to death for now so i'm done with it for today

well this debate appears to simply be about timing i think it is near time to alter in a minor way a few things but opening things up a bit will be coming as the stated goal of getting the virus outbreak under control has been achieved somewhat i have no problem waiting another week i just would like to start hearing some plans about some minor changes to the current state of things my original post which started this latest go round simply said that restaurants that did a good job with spacing customers and behaving carefully and which were shut down anyway should be allowed to resume on a restrictive basis i think some restrictive services can be allowed to resume in the near future

we are a month into the sort of lockdown situation we are presently in when everything was tightened down the first case in bc was identified right around january 25 it was managed effectively from the get go so we are more then 10 weeks into the coronavirus fight if long term care home numbers were not a real thing, they involve a clearly fragile population that was badly impacted, the overall numbers in bc would be very optimistic

i do not think you understand what the testing was about and the tracking that followed the testing and yes there are still cases cropping that will happen until we have an effective vaccine and in the meantime a more effective treatment will likely be found but even before that rapid testing will be the most useful tool to identify and track new cases this is all about management of the outbreak and continued lesser outbreaks we all still have to be smart and safe until a more permanent solution is found

i am not suggesting we can will it away my post clearly says we will not but we have managed it and that is what the goal is/was and that goal can be maintained now that we have systems in place to identify it and where it might break out again the key people in this fight have all learned/adopted better skills and behaviours and that includes the public of bc

well not sure people who clearly will get within a foot or 2 of others (the personal appearance enhancers - they actually have to touch you) should be the first businesses to reopen it is all about weighing all the risks i'm not going to repeat what i posted in response to another post just above this one the idea is to manage the outbreak and continue to manage it as some limited normality is restored i trust the bc authorities i think they can trust the people of bc as well we have shown we can be taught, we do listen, we do try to do as we are told

masks could assist with that minor concern i mean nurses and doctors interact with the actual sick ones the numbers in bc would suggest you'd be unlikely to encounter anyone who is actually infected but as i stated in my previous post, we all need to keep in place all the safety precautions we have been following you do appreciate we will not get rid of this virus the plan and path chosen was to manage the outbreak no one was predicting we'd see cases to go zero that is not a realistic outcome i'm not saying loosen up things today i simply wish to hear of planning that will allow some loosening in the next week or so as loosening happens.... slowly i'd hope close monitoring and attention on cluster outbreaks will be critical we have clearly managed very well the virus outbreak i was a very strong advocate in this thread of listening to what the bc authorities recommended i stand by them they have been extremely reliable and deserve our trust i will still look at the numbers being reported and they suggest a very small number of new cases and that our total number of ongoing confirmed cases is constant and steady at a very low total as well

coronavirus count the last couple of days 1445 confirmed cases less 905 recovered 58 deceased results in 482 active cases b. henry said around 250 of those are connected to long term care facilities and 25 are connected to the federal prison in mission that leaves around 210 confirmed community cases in the entire province (this 200 number has been fairly constant the last few days) our medical authorities have done a very good job managing the virus issue we need to not let our guard down maintain social distancing hand washing surface disinfecting isolate yourself if you have any symptoms at all but i think we should be allowing a little more freedom and activity while maintaining all the safe guards we all know what they are now and we have shown that we have followed these recommendations fairly closely we will keep these safeguards in mind constantly not sure why restaurants that were effectively facilitating distance between tables cannot resume allowing customers into their establishments on a limited basis while maintaining all the safe guards so some of us can get out once in a while and the restaurants can hire back a few staff

now you are taunting you are braking - slowing the vicious cycle or you are breaking - stopping this cycle either way your posting style is clearly prolonging it i'm going to have to seek greater remedies due to these aggravating circumstances (man boredom is real.. just look at some of these recent posts )

i'm going to seek court order that you immediately cease from this blatant theft of my personal style

ah good this is the other rebuild model then in contrast to the shanaplan? hopefully there is a better 3rd option still ? that involves less craziness then those 2 plans?

he was showing us some of the stock of emoticons he clearly has been hoarding

so you are relieving me from the swift kick in the rear ?

omg to be faiiiiir you spelt spelled wrong in the tense you used it the grammar police are large on this site today

but you omitted my fav

i generally rely on an emoticon to clear that up at the end of a post i need a swift kick in the rear for failing to do so on that post it has been repeatedly misinterpreted

here place a new set of these in your sarcasm meter it also appears to be failing you when you read certain posts of mine

but potus asks us to not believe what we see and read remember helsinki? he asks us to believe only what he tells us you clearly are drinking the wrong koolade

ok .. quoting myself again so what is maddening about the WHO data reports is that they are inconsistently inconsistent which is why i have not doubted the actual numbers just the manner in which they appear to be reporting them so it is 4:45 pm and usa has crossed 500,000 threshold in reported confirmed cases and has crossed 2,000 recent death threshold (which is the one i thought they'd try to avoid reporting based on recent reporting oddities) but this has not happened today i think all i'd really like is an explanation as to why WHO resets its 24 hour clock somewhat erratically and this is not without consequence as i have seen late reporting from canada/ontario about additional death rates i think ontario reports regularly additional deaths just prior to the end of a given reporting day but they get put into the new day when they are reported prior to 7 pm on the previous day it is just all strange my clock does not work like theirs so i cannot wrap my head around why their clock acts oddly

so i see you do understand completely good

yes (it is a state of mind)