ItsAllOursBoys

Typo...my comment should have read: " Neat. Let's NOT respond to legitimate inquiry and valid questions and go with non-sequitur statements and straw-man arguments. Legit inquiry? Yes! If we've learnt anything by recent historical events (ie: 9/11, the subsequent war on terror, etc..), it's that it's very dangerous to sacrifice our critical faculties to the whims and opinions of the "official" fact checkers, the ruling political influencers of society or the court of popular opinion. Those who question the official explanations for the coronavirus outbreak aren't rejecting the science of epidemiology or virology. That the virus CAN be found in and/or transmitted by both domesticated and wild animals doesn't necessitate that it is the ONLY way that humans can get the virus. It's documented fact that the Winnipeg level-4 NML lab has for some time been growing certain strains of the coronavirus for scientific research. Such research has been used to develop bio-weapons programs. This isn't to say that this specific outbreak is the result of nefarious actions, but such an scenario does exist in the realm of possibility. Attempting to refute this possibility with nothing but a label of "conspiracy theory" might appease the simple minds of the ignorant sheeple, but it's of little value when attempting to uncover or explain the truth. Doubt nothing, question everything!

Neat. Let's respond to legitimate inquiry and valid questions and go with non-sequitur statements and straw-man arguments

We shouldn't arbitrarily accept the "official" explanation that's being pushed and propagated by all these modern Orwellian ministries of "truth". Neither should we arbitrarily reject the official story.... For inquiring minds.... https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/119138520/experts-debunk-fringe-theory-linking-chinas-coronavirus-to-weapons-research https://www.csis.org/analysis/novel-coronavirus-outbreak https://www.globalresearch.ca/chinas-new-coronavirus-an-examination-of-the-facts/5701662 https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/26/coronavirus-link-china-biowarfare-program-possible/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/01/29/experts-debunk-fringe-theory-linking-chinas-coronavirus-weapons-research/ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/did-china-steal-coronavirus-canada-and-weaponize-it https://top-news.online/chinas-coronavirus-epidemic-could-be-a-biological-weapons-leak/ https://www.zerohedge.com/health/man-behind-global-coronavirus-pandemic http://greatgameindia.com/coronavirus-bioweapon/ Doubt nothing, question everything!

Canucks 5-3 Hughes

Your comments actually proves my point that every word said or written must understood in the context in which they're used. That you boil down my points into 4 labels/talking points actually says more about your ideology and worldview than mine. "Fake news" can be a completely made up story, a story with facts taken out of context, or stories that omit certain facts. If we're going to be able to tell the difference, a two-word label isn't going to help us. Facts in context I believe, facts out of context I reject. As for Trump2020....I wouldn't vote for Trump - your point is moot.

Absolutely agree with you there. They're wonderful people. As for Trump's comment....context reveals motives. In this case, Trump was praising the African American gentleman because of his actions against some idiots dressed up in KKK outfits at one of Trump's rallies. These idiots were there, not in support of Trump but to create a disturbance that was sure to be picked up by the MSM and then used to push the false narrative that Trump and his supporters are racist. Trump was trying to draw attention to the fact that many in the African American community are some of his most loyal supporters. A fact the MSM and their useful idiots don't care to highlight as it doesn't fit their narrative. The context necessitated a positive racial identification of this "wonderful" African American. Trump's comments aren't an example of his innate racial bigotry - its a nothing burger!

Dell slashes Horvat across the ribs right in front of a Zebra.....no call???

I have some good friends who are Christians, Muslims, Sikh and Hindus. Wonderful people. Although some worldviews are more susceptible to violence and hate, there's lunatics and terrorists in every religion that believe violence, hate and subjugation of unbelievers is the way of godliness. Unfortunately for those of us in the western world, the separation of the secular vs sacred has bred ignorance of the underlying psychology and philosophy of many worldviews. Knowledge of exoteric beliefs does not necessitate an understanding of the esoteric. Such ignorance has put us at a disadvantage and left us vulnerable to be manipulated by the government, MSM and other power structures of society.

What part of this "fine" piece of journalism links Trump to these Nazi wackos? Overall, the article sets up yet another false equivalency by the MSM to push their agenda and brainwash the unsuspecting and naive. It's another fine example of the processes of the Hegelian Dialectic that stokes the fires of conflict and chaos in order to establish a new "order." The author fails to mention the fact that the actions and worldview of these parasitical lunatics are in direct odds with the worldview and actions of the peace abiding pro-gun organizations and activists that are exercising their constitutional right to march. Failing to highlight this important fact creates a false equivalency in the minds of readers and a inaccurate and misleading link between Neo-Nazi terrorists and the law-abiding gun-rights activists. Facts taken out of context become the greatest of lies and deception. Failure to draw these critically important distinctions is not only intellectually dishonest, but is also the epitome of ignorance.

5-3 yotes Keller

It's understandable that you're looking for technicalities that will enable you to climb out of the illogical hole you dug, but really??? Gotta be intellectually honest to have a constructive conversation my friend. A wise man once said never argue ignorance with an ignorant person as they'll only beat you down with experience. I'll take his advice and leave you to your ignorance.

Ever hear of a lie of omission vs commission? I guess not. Better stick to commenting on hockey until you get your logic skills under control.... https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/lying-definition/ https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron/papers.htm/oc.html https://philosopherinthemirror.wordpress.com/2011/06/24/sins-of-commission-and-the-logic-of-omission/

EVERY news outlet, including every MSM outlet have made "false claims" before. But one has to determine whether such false claims are the result of an error of omission or error of commission. Just like your comment, for now I trust your comment was an error of commission, rather than omission.

Yet another genetic fallacy?

That there my friend is a genetic fallacy....rejecting the source because you don't like the ideological viewpoint/what they say. That being as ti may, here's some from the center/left all saying the same thing..... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51055219 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/ukraine-flight-was-on-fire-in-air-and-returning-to-tehran-at-time-of-crash-iran-investigators-say/2020/01/09/9b27434c-3244-11ea-971b-43bec3ff9860_story.html https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ukrainian-jet-crashed-killing-176-appears-have-been-shot-iranian-n1112996 https://www.newsweek.com/iranians-shot-down-ukraine-flight-mistake-sources-1481313

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/developing-local-iranian-claims-to-take-photo-of-missile-part-near-ukrainian-passenger-plane-crash-site-in-tehran/

True, could be a coincidental accident.....or a tragic miscalculation that can be conveniently excused with plausible deniability.

yeah....or shoot them! https://www.citizenfreepress.com/column-2/soldiers-open-fire-on-civilians-refusing-to-attend-soleimani-funeral-raw/

You're showing how ignorant you are of the topic at hand by employing a red-herring argument to misrepresent my post. The clear intent of my post was to show the length of terrorist arm of Iran and the war they conduct through their proxies like Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah etc (as can be seen on the attached maps). My post was not in any way conflating Shias with Sunni's or suggesting that ALL Islamic terrorist groups are affiliated or associated with Iran.

Perhaps you had a little trouble with reading, comprehension and logic as well? With all due respect, I'd suggest you go back and carefully reread my post, resisting the urge to respond until you understand the points I'm making and until you brush up on your understanding of modern warfare tactics employed by Islamic Republic of Iran and other Radical Jihadists. When was the last time the US or Israel blew up/attacked an Iranian place of worship? or an Iranian embassy? Iranian shopping mall? Iranian community center? The kindergarten map you presented (and subsequent argument about the US presence) is really part of a larger straw-man argument based in ignorance and intellectual dishonesty. What you conveniently fail to mention is that most of those locations exist at the request and/or permission of the individual sovereign states. They exist mainly to deter Iranian/Radical Jihadi aggression.

making such a comment without evidence is as smart as throwing a grenade into a crowd of people then running.

Nice opinion piece

I take it you didn't do well in school? Seeing that you ask other to do your homework for you.... With all due respect to your question, its shows an inherent misunderstanding of basic military strategy and planning. Sun Tzu said "Oh divine are to subtlety and secrecy! Through you we learn to be invisible, through you inaudible and hence, we can hold the enemy's fate in our hands". In the art of war, they utilize 5th column tactics. Instead of attacking their enemy from the North, South, East or West, their enter land in stealth or as a friend and once inside, begin their seditious work. These are the type of tactics the Iranians are using. It's your opinion that the statements I posted were "tough talking rhetoric" and I can respect that. You're entitled to your own opinions, but your not entitled to your own facts. Those are their statements and their actions over the last 39 years show their "rhetoric" has morphed into a sophisticated network of proxy wars and guerilla warfare. There are no US/Israel statements that match the murderous intent as the Islamic Republic of Iran. Iran knows they would never win a direct confrontation with Israel or the US so they resort to attacking western targets through their proxies - Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Hamas and other Shi'ite Militia groups. The following are just a few instances of how Iran fights their wars against Israel their neighbors and the world. All instances have objective, verifiable evidence (You'll have to look this up on your own). 1979 - Iranian students backed by Khomeini took 52 America hostages for 444 days when they overthrew the US embassy in Tehran 1981 - Six Arab countries - Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar and the UAE form the GCC to oppose Iranian aggression 1981 - Iran sponsored the Islamic Front for the Liberation of Bahrain in their failed coup attempt to take over the country of Bahrain 1983 - The terrorist group Hezbollah attacked the US embassy in Beirut, killing 17 US Soldiers. 1983 - Hezbollah attacks the US Marine barracks in Beirut - killed 241 Americans 1984 - Hezbollah truck bomb attack at the US Embassy in Lebanon - killed 23 people 1992 - Hezbollah bombed the Israeli embassy in Argentina - killed 29 people 1994 - Hezbollah bombed a Jewish community center in Argentina - killed 96 people 1994 - Argentina indicted several members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard of terrorism against a Jewish target in Buenos Aires which killed 85 people 1998 - Iran found guilty in US courts of providing direct material and financial support for the US embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania 2001 - Iran allows Al-Qaeda planners of 9/11 safe passage through Iran to Afghanistan where they received their guerilla warfare training. A US court ordered Iran to pay 6 Billion to the families of 9/11 victims 2011 - Iranian Plot is foiled in Washington D.C that attempted to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the US at a local restaurant 2011 - Two Iranian intelligence officers defect to the west, implicating Iran with withholding foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks 2012 - Members of Soleimani's IRGC were arrested in Nigeria for plotting to attack/blow up American/English tourist destinations 2012 - Hezbollah kills five Israeli's and a Bulgarian bus driver in a suicide bombing in Burgas Bulgaria 2012 - Kenyan police arrest two Iranians for shipping 100 kilo's of explosives into Kenya for terrorist attacks against American, Israeli and other western targets 2012 - Indian police state that the Iranian Revolutionary Guards were responsible for the bomb explosion that injured and Israeli diplomat 2013 - Hezbollah sends thousands of soldiers to Syria to fight for the Assad regime 2017 - Two members of Hezbollah (financed and supported by Iran) were arrested in NYC while conducting surveillance on US Military and police departments. 2018 - Two Iranian agents arrested in NYC for planning terrorist attacks against Jewish targets in Chicago 2018 - Albania expels the Iranian ambassador for "supporting terrorism" 2018 - France freezes Iranian funds for attempted bomb attack at a Paris rally Wherever you find Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad and various other Shi'ite militias, (Israel, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Bahrain, Argentina, Kenya, Tanzania, Bulgaria, India, Albania, France, US) you find the invading long armed tentacles of the Islamic Republic of Iran. So, time to "delve deep" and do some homework reading on your own... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state-sponsored_terrorism#Albania https://securitystudies.org/qassem-soleimani-an-appreciation-of-a-foe/ https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Iran-Report.pdf https://www.state.gov/countering-irans-global-terrorism/ https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2019/01/24/the-iranian-revolution-and-its-legacy-of-terrorism/ https://www.unitedagainstnucleariran.com/terrorism https://www.heritage.org/military-strength/assessing-threats-us-vital-interests/iran