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So Poile fires Trotz and then years later yields to him and gives him HIS job. Full circle. Beautiful story.

Get a pick from the Kraken to take him off their hands then ship out Demko for picks and prospects. Driedger can alternate with a new young goalie that we acquire from another team. The Sabres, for instance, have Luukkonen, Levi and Portillo in their system. Portillo probably walks but Levi and Luukkonen are both no.1 caliber goaltenders. Then there's Minnesota, who have Wallstedt and Gustavsson. Wallstedt is untouchable but Gustavsson is only 24 and looks pretty good. There's some guys that we can get through the draft, Silovs is decent and might be an NHL guy one day. Boston has Swayman backing up, they've got Ullmark as their starter who is the best goalie in the NHL right now. If Swayman comes available and we sent JT Miller their way and the goalie was part of the package coming back, that might be a good move. IDK folks just spit-balling here

You don't acquire a player for the purpose of subsequently trading him away. That's bush league.

We trade Demko IF we can get Wallstedt or Brandt Clarke or something. Otherwise, we keep him so he can prop up the young guns for our rebuild. Good goaltending is imperative for a successful re-tool.

I think Andrew Brunette would be a great young coach for our team. He was up for the Jack Adams last year and he can grow with the team. IMO, he's responsible partially for the success New Jersey is having.

To FLA: RD Erik Karlsson G James Reimer To SJS: LW Gregori Deninsenko G Sergei Bobrovsky LD Evan Nause FLA 2nd 2023 Just spitballin' here. Nothing too serious. Tell me what you think!

The Islanders are an ideal trade partner for Miller. We eat Varlamov coming back our way, they give us Wahlstrom as an asset for Miller and we get younger, faster and sleeker. Meanwhile, they add another vet to their forward group. Win-win.

retain 25% on OEL, eat 1.815M for the remainder of the contract and get a modest return. That makes him available at a 5.4M cap hit, which is more than reasonable for OEL even at his age. We'd get a good return. DO NOT buyout Garland. If he is good enough to be traded, trade him. If not, retain and wait for his value to increase. Trade Schenn, Boeser, Horvat and Miller. Retain Myers until his contract year, than move him at the aforementioned deadline. Bury Poolman and Stillman. Re-sign Kuzmenko. There's my plan.

I heard Richard Fuchs is on waivers too lol

Lafreniere and a conditional 1st (if he re-signs) for Horvat Maybe the Rangers can figure out a contract before the trade is consummated i.e. Tkachuk to Florida

With OEL, if we retain 1M on his contract than that's a 6.25M contract, which is good value for a defenseman of his caliber. We could get a great return. With Horvat, you'd have to think Colorado or Columbus would be a great destination. With the Jackets, they won't give up Johnson or Jiricek but they might be willing to forfeit Sillinger. If they were willing, we'd have to move Horvat to them. Then there's Schenn and Kuzmenko, both of whom will fetch a good return. In the offseason, Miller, Boeser, OEL, Myers and Garland should all be candidates to get moved. At the deadline though, you focus on moving Horvat, Schenn and Kuz. PS if we can get Newhook and/or Byram as part of the return for Bo, we've got a great situation. Byram could be groomed to replace OEL and Newhook is a hometown guy and probably a good 2C down the road.

Can someone PM me Doerrie's post and the details about this case? Much appreciated.

I would do Horvat to the Jackets for Johnson, Peeke and a 2nd. I would also move Boeser, Garland, Myers, Pearson and OEL and I would re-sign Kuzmenko, Schenn, Dermott, Bear and Hoglander. OEL would be tricky to move but I bet if we threw in a pick or two to the acquiring team as well as retaining $1 Million we could probably move him without as much trouble. I know eating $1 Million for the next half a decade isn't ideal but OEL doesn't jive with the age of our core, which will be built around Podkolzin, Hoglander, Pettersson, Hughes, Demko and Lekkerimaki.

Dude why are you screaming?

I hope nobody gets their Klok cleaned lol

There might even be some left over from the Kessel era

Trade proposal I thought I'd run by everyone on here Boeser + VAN 1st 2022 (15OV) + VAN 3rd 2023 to NJD for Zacha + NJD 1st 2022 (2nd OV)

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for me it's the Panthers with all the reclamation projects like Bennett not to mention they made a big play for Giroux. I really think they're the strongest team, really giving Tampa Bay a run for their money.

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So I'm hearing a lot of stuff that I agree with and a lot of stuff I don't, so here's my take: Trading Miller wasn't a good use of a first. Yes, that's right. Someone said it isn't about whose available at 20OV and they're right, because we would've picked higher. We could've had one of a 20-year-old Schneider, Jarvis, Lundell, Perfetti, Rossi or even a Raymond instead of a 28-year-old JT Miller. This same person also said it wasn't a time for a player like Miller to be acquired. Sure, he insulated Pettersson but now we're going to have to let the young guys play and cut some guys loose and I don't think having Miller age out faster than they can compete is the right move. At the start of the thread someone said the return for Ryan Kesler was good, with Bonino, Sbisa and a 1st coming the other way. That first turned into Jared McCann, who is one of Seattle's leading scorers. Right now, McCann could probably play wing or center with Pettersson. He was also drafted by Benning. Also, the return for McCann, which was a 2nd (Rasmus Asplund), McCann and a 4th (Jonathan Ang) for Erik Gudbranson. Gudbranson was supposed to be acquired to be partnered with Quinn Hughes. I get the logic, but McCann should've been part of the plan when he came in he was more promising than Cody Hodgson. Than we'll talk about Sbisa, who was a good third pairing guy that we lost to Vegas. Not a big loss and you don't flip players hours or even months after you acquire them unless it's a three-way trade, so we wouldn't have gotten anything for Sbisa and we could've lost something else to Vegas. Now let's talk about Bonino. We traded him to Pittsburgh with Clendening for Sutter, along with a few picks exchanged (ANA 2nd 2016 acquired for Kevin Bieksa was traded with Bonino in exchange for Sutter and VAN 3rd 2016). So, what am I getting at here? Bonino played on the HBK line and helped the Penguins win a championship. In my opinion, we could've flipped Bonino at the deadline in 2016 or 2017 for a first, second or good prospect. I just thought it was bad asset management and worth noting. Juolevi over Tkachuk? In excusable. Virtanen over Ehlers, W. Nylander, Fiala, Larkin, etc.? Terrible. Two blown top 10 picks. Just curious, has anyone heard of Carolina or Tampa or Anaheim or Ottawa blowing any of these picks? Because, they don't. Well, every team does but our team does it the most. It's improved under Benning after those dark years with Gillis, but it just hasn't been enough. He's gotten some guys in the later rounds, most notably Rathbone but who really knows if he'll stick. I hope he's good or if not we can move him for something that'll improve the team, but right now we're in the dark ages. I wanted to circle back to the McCann/Gudbranson/Asplund deal and explain part of the reason why it was so bad. If we have McCann, we don't need Miller. If we don't need Miller, we have our first in 2020. We don't have Pearson either, but if don't trade for Gudbranson than we can draft Rasmus Asplund instead of having Pearson. With our first in 2020, we select Anton Lundell. Voila: Lundell Pettersson Boeser Hoglander Horvat Garland Podkolzin McCann Dickinson/Asplund 5, Letting Markstrom, Toffoli and Tanev go, than signing Schmidt and Holtby for more money and than getting gutted by Calgary. All we would've had to do was keep Tanev, saved the pick we used to acquire Schmidt and signed Toffoli for the same amount of money he got in Montreal. Tanev could play with Hughes, maybe we let Edler walk maybe we don't. With Toffoli and Tanev, I'm confident we would've made the playoffs this year. We would've fallen off a cliff this year without the additions of Garland and OEL but the team still would've had a better season last year. That's what I have to say. Hope everyone stays safe. Let's hope the new GM really hits the ground running.

For our new management? For me, this team is totally composed poorly. What we need is another top six forward, a center that can push Pettersson to the wing where he's a much more productive player. Connor Geekie is available around where we're picking, if we pick ahead of Seattle we could have a shot at Mathew Savoie. This year's draft is very strong and I feel like moving two of these four: Pearson, Horvat, Boeser and even Miller and going with a younger group next year could be beneficial. Our core is very young, but the complimentary players not so much. Horvat is already in his prime, so is Miller and we're not even close to contending. I don't think that's a good sign.

Alright, so I'll bite. This team cannot trade Horvat. He is our captain, he was the first player picked in our rebuild. He's definitely a solid second line center, so when Pettersson enters his prime he'll be supplemented well. I don't see how trading from a position of weakness, center, in order to restock the cupboards again for 2-3 years down the road makes any sense. Could the team use a shakeup? Yes. Miller, Boeser, and Pearson are the only three viable forwards that could feasibly be traded. There's a lot of teams looking for wingers or looking to make a shakeup, but if I'm Vancouver's GM I'm looking at Kevin Fiala. If I'm dangling Pearson, I'm looking at Jake DeBrusk. Finally, for JT Miller I'd ship him off to the Rangers for a cornucopia for picks and prospects. Either way, if there's an option to make a shakeup, I fire the Head Coach first and replace him with someone in-house for the remainder of the season. After that, we'll bring in a new manager and new coach and we'll have a better team. Klimovich and Woo might be ready to make it next year and our younger players will be a year older.

Evander Kane is going to be an anchor in the ilk of LE21 if we trade for him. Stay the course, maybe look at bringing in Max Domi at the deadline if we do well, maybe getting another forward like a center or another LHD or another RHD. We're set in goal and basically on the wing, but the center and defensive positions need more depth if we want to be a contender. On paper, this team is better than what it shows so far.

`1) Maybe fire Green and pay Mike Babcock what he wants to really turn this team around. I'm not talking about what he did in Toronto or Detroit, I'm talking about Anaheim. The composition of our team to that team, with Paul Kariya (Brock Boeser), Petr Sykora (Garland), Steve Rucchin (Horvat), Oates (Pettersson), Chistov (Podkolzin), Giguere (Demko), Niclas Havelid (Q. Hughes), Keith Carney (Poolman and Matt Cullen (Dickinson). Really similar teams and I think Babcock can grow with this group. 2) I wouldn't touch Evander Kane with a ten foot poll 3) If not Babcock and if we keep Green, We certainly can't make another trade, we had the busiest offseason ever. Getting rid of Travis Green is probably the only thing to jolt the team which I don't really like because getting rid of the coach is just a PR move it doesn't usually change much. Bottom line, we get a new coach and if the team gets better, that's great and if not Benning is out of the job. If we miss the playoffs this year, Benning and Green are fired, so is Weisbrod and we've got a new a brand new regime next year to take this team into a new dawn.