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[Trade] Canucks Trade Luongo to the Panthers
Angry Goose replied to Alex the Great's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
no reason he can't be signed to an extension or dumped next year if need be. Better to give Luo what he wants- an undisputed starting role, cap space for VAN and 2 young players to work with. Looks pretty even to me -
[Trade] Canucks Trade Luongo to the Panthers
Angry Goose replied to Alex the Great's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Well no one was expecting a Luongo trade to actually happen, so maybe just wait and see? -
[Trade] Canucks Trade Luongo to the Panthers
Angry Goose replied to Alex the Great's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
I think MG partly did Luo a favour. The guy wanted to be close to his family, was obviously on shaky ground with the Canucks so MG sent him to where he wanted to go. Playing hardball with a goalie like Luo wasn't going to work. Canucks got a good goaltending prospect that I'm sure Rollie will work with quite a bit and Matthais is a solid young 3rd line C that the Canucks can probably extend. Gillis is probably trying to create cap space to make more moves in the off season -
[Trade] Canucks Trade Luongo to the Panthers
Angry Goose replied to Alex the Great's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
lol no doubt eh -
[Trade] Canucks Trade Luongo to the Panthers
Angry Goose replied to Alex the Great's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
holy crap! I was about to say 30 mins ago Mathais coming back would be a good deal. Hope he is part of the deal too -
Of course it all comes down to what actually happens, but I just don't see PHI offering 2 young roster players. I would LOVE for Schenn & Simmonds to play in VAN, boyoboy would that be an exciting team to watch but doubt it happens. I think even if a Matt Read were added to the deal instead of Simmonds the Canucks would have to include something on top of Kesler.
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I've watched alot of PHI games this year and Schenn's play is not nearly as the numbers indicate. He definitely isn't a floater in his own end, backchecks hard etc. Like Couturier, he still has alot of upside- think Kesler a couple of years before he really broke out. And he has the hands that the Canucks need to make plays happen. That all said Couturier is a very good player as well and I would be just as happy to see him in a Canucks uniform but he won't help the scoring woes the Canucks have. Plus I project Horvat to play a similar game but much further down the road. The guy I want to see come out of PHI is Simmonds, but not as a centerpiece. If Hansen needed to be added to pry Simmonds, and one of Schenn/Couturier out of PHI, so be it.
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OK buddy whatever that means Key point is that I'm not the one demanding it- I'm just working off the supposed rumour that has been floating out there. I'll also add that I mentioned such a trade conditionally (key word being "if"). The above deal isn't a kings random either compared to some of the other proposals made by CDC. A good roster player, good prospect and late 1st isn't exactly throttling PHI right now or later whom I also am a fan of. The trade works out well for both teams, as PHI could definitely use a C like Kesler to play with Giroux, and if they keep Schenn/Courturier they are excellent down the middle. They lose Simmonds now and some future value but Kesler gives them a winng chance now and for another 2 years. Fair for both sides the way I see it.
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Agreed- which is why I don't get how much CDC'rs undervalue Simmonds, let alone think Kesler will net both Simmonds AND Schenn. IMO I would be happy with either since both are very good in their own respects i.e Simmonds can produce and has grit/would be excellent to have along side Kassian etc. & Schenn is a gritty 2 way player with good offensive upside. Doesn't hurt that I like PHI too lol. Agreed as well. If the Canucks can get a few more established younger forwards in the line up next year, re-sign Santo, then I think they will be better. A mix of young players on the second and third line will add more spark to the line up I think. Booth has to go because he has no finish, but kudos for brining some energy as of late. Sedins and Burrows HAVE to be better next year or else the team sinks again, but I don't think things could have gone any worse for all three as it has this year.
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Demanding a kings randsom isn't going to happen folks. If the rumored PHI deal has some truth to it i.e. Simmonds (or possibly Schenn if PHI is willing to pay)/Laughton/1st that is a good deal (3 pieces of high value) that addresses both short term and long term needs. Whatever holes are left will have to be shored up through other trades/signings, but I like the above deal.
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and 2 idiots + this.....
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Is Luongo sitting out again because he's in play?
Angry Goose replied to VegasCanuck's topic in Canucks Talk
yeah I am surprised. luongo too -
Is Luongo sitting out again because he's in play?
Angry Goose replied to VegasCanuck's topic in Canucks Talk
I dunno why people are clamouring to trade Luo. With Luongo and Lack the Canucks have another awesome goalie tandem. It's a luxary that the Canucks don't need to get rid of yet. -
PHI fans hate most of their defence, but again they do not want to give up their prized youth for a good but not great (relatively speaking-Imo he can be great when he wants to) D man like Edler. My guess is they would rather dangle a B prospect like Read for Edler. Kesler MIGHT snag one of Schenn or Courturier, but I bet they are extremely hesitant unless they want to make a serious playoff run. More likely that the Eklund rumour of Simmonds, Laughton and a 1st is more likely. I think that works well for the Canucks too now and later. If Edler can snag a roster player C then the Canucks are in a very good position moving forward. All eyes on you MG....
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First, I don't know (just my opinion) that it is about Kesler wanting to leave. I see it as something similar to Luongo's past situation where moving forward, it might be the interests of both parties to seek a trade. When Kesler said "he loves it here...son was born here etc. etc" I believe he was being genuine- the city and the team are full of fond memories for him. That said, he is a competetive player, and a player that if added, would make certain teams e.g. PIT chalk full of skill and talent e.g. CHI. People crap on MG all the time but if there is any truth to these rumours and reports, and MG is seriously entertaining a trade then kudos because it shows he is learning from other teams mistakes e.g CGY when trading older vets and getting low returns. A trade, if done now and correctly could really turn things around right away for the Canucks, or, further MG's plan of injecting more youth into the line up.
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He sweats alot meaning he is probably well hydrated. Drink your water folks.
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That is an option I'm sure MG is contemplating. As for trading Kesler, I think the Canucks still have about the same chance of making the playoffs which is pretty steep. Keeping Kes in the line up doesn't guarantee them playing lights out hockey, but who knows. They played a pretty good game without him versus STL.