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There are many after-shocks still, especially in the area where my mother lives... and they're worried about the avalanche (she lives near snowy mountains with many ski slopes). Amazingly some train systems in Tokyo are back in operation from this morning (per my brother & his wife).

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Some interesting Facts From The Vancouver Sun:

USGS Dr. Dave Applegate says the Japan earthquake ruptured a 180 mile long by 50 mile wide section of the Earth's crust.

100+ aftershocks have rated 5.0 magnitude or more in Japan since the initial shake.

Earth's axis has reportedly shifted ten inches as a result of the quake, and Japan's coast is said to have permanently shifted 2.4 metres.

The quake was 900 times stronger than the quake that hammered San Francisco in 1989.

Aftershocks from the Peru earthquake of almost a year ago are still felt to this day.

Honshu earthquake occurred on ocean floor of the Pacific plate, bumping 250 miles of coastline.

Shaking was felt as far away as China.

The Honshu quake was not as large as the 1964 Alaska earthquake, but was comparable to the recent Chile earthquake.

Tsunami waves that hit California earlier today washed three onlookers out to sea. Two have been recovered.

St Louis, Missouri media outlets report that city has moved an inch as a result of the quake.

Waves from the ensuing tsunami reached 32 feet high.

Theres some confusion regarding the nuclear power plants... Kyodo says serious problems that there are serious problems-- Electric Power Co. is reporting that they have lost control of the pressure in their No. 1 & 2 nuclear reactors with temps rising and that they've lost control of of the cooling function.

NHK on the other hand is saying everything is fine at the nuke plant-- say that the nuclear reactor itself is NOT leaking, but an associated building is.

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hopefully this disaster ends soon..

Not by the looks of it-- new reports of compounding damages are constantly being brought up. The whole nuclear plant issue is looking to be a huge problem-- theres a lot of conflicting news regarding whats happening. Some say that its under control (NHK) but Kyodo says otherwise.

Its absolutely horrible whats happening. I cannot even begin to fathom what they are all going through.

-- according to Kyodo and Tokyo Electric Power Co, they've lost control of pressure in 2 nuclear power reactors; temps are rising and will be added to the emergency list.

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Look at a map, Victoria is sheltered from the ocean. I can't believe they even need to tell people Vancouver won't get hit by a tsunami...

Well, right now. Depending on where an earthquake were to happen the Island could work as a mirror instead of a shield.....

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUkHvWMmh6Y

Japan declares emergency at quake-hit reactor

Japan has declared a “nuclear emergency” at an atomic plant north of Tokyo after cooling systems failed following the country’s 8.9 magnitude earthquake.

Naoto Kan, prime minister, stressed that no radiation had leaked from the Fukushima Daiichi facility’s six reactors. But residents living within 3km of the plant were being evacuated by the military, and those within 10km being told to stay in their homes.

The International Atomic Energy Agency, the world’s nuclear watchdog, expressed concern, saying it was “seeking further details on the situation at Fukushima and other nuclear power plants and research reactors, including information on off-site and on-site electrical power supplies, cooling systems and the condition of the reactor buildings”.

Japanese government officials and Tokyo Electric Power, the plant’s operator, said all Fukushimi Daiichi’s reactors had shut down automatically as designed during the quake. But coolant water for one reactor was running low after its water pump’s diesel generator failed.

“All efforts are being taken to secure an alternative electricity source,” Yukio Edano, chief cabinet secretary in Mr Kan’s government, said. He called the evacuation a “precaution”.

An IAEA official said: “All nuclear power plants need to keep fuel cool after the reactor is shut down and not producing energy. This is because after the shutdown the fuel elements are physically hot and radioactively hot, and there is therefore a safety risk.”

The expert added: “In a situation like this, you would also worry about physical degradation to the containment of the nuclear facility, which might end up with radiation being released.”

The US said it had delivered coolant to the plant. “We just had our Air Force assets in Japan transport some really important coolant to one of the nuclear plants,” secretary of state Hillary Clinton said.

With total generation capacity of about 4,500 megawatts from six reactors, Fukushima Daiichi is one of Japan’s largest nuclear plants. The nearby Fukushima Daini plant has capacity of about 4,300MW from four reactors.

There are two other plants in the region: Onagawa, with 1,300MW of capacity from three reactors, and Tokai, with 1,000MW from one reactor. Fukushima Daini, Onagawa and Tokai are all reported to have been shut down.

Altogether, about a quarter of Japan’s nuclear generation capacity, which provides 30 per cent of the country’s electricity, is out of service. Analysts cautioned it could take time before the facilities were declared operational again.

Nuclear plants in Japan have suffered earthquake damage before. Parts of the Kashiwazaki-Kariwa facility, the world’s largest nuclear power plant with seven reactors on the north-western coast os the Sea of Japan, remain closed after a 6.8-magnitude quake in 2007. A small amount of radioactive water was leaked in that incident.

Analysts said the closure of the reactors was likely to lead to an increase in demand for liquefied natural gas, an alternative source of energy, from the country.

“Such a reduction in nuclear generation is likely to increase the demand for spot LNG cargos by Japan, allowing further utilisation to gas-fired power station provided there has been no damage to LNG re-gasification terminals, or gas-fired generation facilities in Japan,” said James Crandell and Kerry Maddock at Barclays Capital.

UK wholesale gas prices for April delivery jumped more than 5 per cent on Friday to 60.55 pence per therm, amid concerns the quake would increase demand for liquefied natural gas from Japan and attract cargos destined for the UK.

The declaration of a nuclear emergency was the first under an 11-year-old law that requires utilities to notify the public and the government immediately of potentially dangerous situations at atomic plants. The law was prompted in part by previous cover-ups of safety problems at nuclear facilities.

Friday’s earthquake also damaged another plant further north on the Japanese Pacific coast. Tohoku Electric said a turbine at its Onagawa facility had caught fire, but that the blaze had been extinguished and no radiation had leaked. However, Kashiwazaki-Kariwa, Japan’s largest nuclear plant, is still in operation.

Japan is also required under a series of nuclear safety conventions to notify the IAEA of early nuclear incidents. IAEA officials presume they are receiving little information at present because Japanese are busy responding to the incident.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4758904e-4be5-11e0-9705-00144feab49a.html#ixzz1GKqWAXA1

Tepco: Temperatures Rising At Fukushima Daini No.1, No.2 Reactors

TOKYO (Dow Jones)--Tokyo Electric Power Co. (9501.TO) said Saturday that the temperatures of its No.1 and No.2 reactors at its Fukushima Daini nuclear power station are rising, and it has lost control over pressure in the reactors.

Fukushima Daini station is the second nuclear power plant the company has in Fukushima prefecture in northeastern Japan, where the troubled Fukushima Daiichi plant is located.

By Mari Iwata, Dow Jones Newswires; 813-6269-2798; mari.iwata@dowjones.com

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110311-715299.html

Risk of Nuclear Catastrophe Escalates in Japan – ‘Worse than Chernobyl’

The Institute for Public Accuracy issued the following statement by nuclear expert, Kevin Kamp, about the risk of nuclear disaster in post-Earthquake Japan: “The electrical grid is down. The emergency diesel generators have been damaged. The multi-reactor Fukushima atomic power plant is now relying on battery power, which will only last around eight hours. The danger is, the very thermally hot reactor cores at the plant must be continuously cooled for 24 to 48 hours. Without any electricity, the pumps won’t be able to pump water through the hot reactor cores to cool them. Once electricity is lost, the irradiated nuclear fuel could begin to melt down. If the containment systems fail, a catastrophic radioactivity release to the environment could occur.”

“In addition to the reactor cores, the storage pool for highly radioactive irradiated nuclear fuel is also at risk. The pool cooling water must be continuously circulated. Without circulation, the still thermally hot irradiated nuclear fuel in the storage pools will begin to boil off the cooling water. Within a day or two, the pool’s water could completely boil away. Without cooling water, the irradiated nuclear fuel could spontaneously combust in an exothermic reaction. Since the storage pools are not located within containment, a catastrophic radioactivity release to the environment could occur. Up to 100 percent of the volatile radioactive Cesium-137 content of the pools could go up in flames and smoke, to blow downwind over large distances. Given the large quantity of irradiated nuclear fuel in the pool, the radioactivity release could be worse than the Chernobyl nuclear reactor catastrophe of 25 years ago.”

Kamps is a specialist in nuclear waste at Beyond Nuclear and conducted research last year assessing the state of nuclear facilities in Japan.

Meabwhile, Japan has ordered thousands of residents near a northeastern nuclear power plant to evacuate today following a massive earthquake that caused a problem in the plant’s cooling system, according to the Associated Press.

http://blogs.forbes.com/williampentland/2011/03/11/risk-of-nuclear-catastrophe-escalates-in-japan-worse-than-chernobyl/

Radiation levels at damaged Fukushima-Daiichi nuke plant are continuing to rise... Radiation 1,000 times higher than normal detected. Ministry official: 'Possibility of radioactive leak'...

http://www.drudgereport.com/

U.S. did not deliver coolant to Japan nuclear reactor

(Reuters) - The U.S. military did not provide any coolant for a Japanese nuclear plant affected by a massive earthquake on Friday, U.S. officials said.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton earlier had said that U.S. Air Force "assets" had delivered "some really important coolant" to a Japanese nuclear power plant.

One U.S. official said he believed Clinton was told Japan had requested the material, that the United States had agreed to provide it, and that an operation to do so was under way.

Ultimately, however, Japan did not need assistance from the United States but Clinton did not appear to have been updated before she made her public remarks.

"We understand that ultimately the Japanese government handled the situation on its own," said another U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/11/us-japan-quake-nuclear-coolant-idUSTRE72A8AM20110311

Japan orders evacuation around nuclear plant

Radiation levels at reactor rise after earthquake

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The Japanese government declared its first-ever state of emergency at a nuclear power plant after Friday's 8.9-magnitude earthquake caused a problem in a cooling system, causing radiation levels in a reactor to rise to 1,000 times normal.

Japan's nuclear safety agency said some radiation escaped from the plant.

The government ordered 3,000 residents to leave the area.

Power cut

The quake cut off power to the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, which is in Onahama city, about 270 kilometres northeast of Tokyo. A backup generator failed and the primary cooling system was not able to supply water to the plant's 460-megawatt No. 1 reactor.

Japanese nuclear safety official Yuji Kakizaki said plant workers were cooling the reactor with a less-effective secondary cooling system. Kakizaki said an emergency cooling system remains intact and ready to kick in if required to prevent a reactor meltdown.

Japan's nuclear safety agency said pressure inside the Fukushima No. 1 reactor has risen to 1.5 times the level considered normal. To reduce the pressure, slightly radioactive vapour will be released.

Yukio Edano, the chief cabinet secretary, said the amount of radioactive element in the vapor would be "very small."

"With evacuation in place and the ocean-bound wind, we can ensure the safety," Edano said early Saturday in a news conference.

Japan's nuclear safety agency said the radioactive vapour would not affect the environment or human health.

Plant workers were scrambling to restore the cooling water supply at the plant but there was no prospect of immediate success, The Associated Press reported. The U.S. offered to rush coolant to Japan, but a U.S. official later said the Japanese handled it themselves.

Builders plan for quakes

Kaoru Ishikawa, the Japanese ambassador to Canada, said all the nuclear power plants in Japan were built "bearing in mind the possibility of big earthquakes."

He said all the plants in the affected area were shut down automatically after the quake, but he noted the coolant problem at the Fukushima plant continued.

The International Atomic Energy Agency said Japanese authorities also reported a fire at the Onagawa nuclear plant. The fire has been extinguished.

"They say Onagawa, Fukushima-Daini and Tokai nuclear power plants were also shut down automatically, and no radiation release has been detected," the IAEA said in a statement posted online.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/03/11/earthquake-japan-nuclear-reactor.html

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FTFY.

It is only a matter of time. The question is only if it will happen in our lifetimes, not whether it will happen at all.

Well, if WE had an earthquake of that size nobody in the lower mainland would be on canucks.com.......

Besides not having buildings up to snuff much of the lowermainland is on highly liquifyiable soil.

Oh, and there are several volcanoes in the area as well.

Certainly not the time for Scadenfreude.....

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Well, if WE had an earthquake of that size nobody in the lower mainland would be on canucks.com.......

Besides not having buildings up to snuff much of the lowermainland is on highly liquifyiable soil.

Oh, and there are several volcanoes in the area as well.

Certainly not the time for Scadenfreude.....

Agreed.

Two of my biggest concerns for the larger area here, aside from the liquifaction and tsunamis (as if they weren't enough), are that Seattle has Mt Ranier so close that could be set off by the 'big one' and that the west coast of BC doesn't really have a military base to use in an emergency aside from Esquimalt and Chiliwack. I would assume Hwy 1 through Hope is impassable. I doubt we would get much help from outside in less than a week.

This country's disaster response would be so hard to judge if we are talking a cataclysmic scale similar to this Sendai quake and tsunami.

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My wife and kids are 200km away from the epicenter. I was video chatting with my wife when the earthquake hit. It was the day of our eldest daughters junior high graduation. Luckily they're safe, but the damage is terrifying and the quakes have not stopped.

We've been in constant communication and she says there isn't even a moment where the earth isn't shaking. It's still ongoing and some of the shocks are almost as large as the original.

She has a wireless internet and laptop (like the Rogers internet stick) and she ran outside her apartment while still broadcasting and it was like watching something out of Cloverfield.

Even at this moment we're talking and no one can rest because within minutes another aftershock will hit. It's one after another. She says hundreds, maybe thousands. Buildings have collapsed and there is no food or water anywhere. The stores have been emptied. There is no gas or heat and there the relief is focused on emergencies, so there is a big shortage of supplies.

The strange thing is, I had scheduled to travel there for our daughters graduation but I was forced to postpone because of work. I was going to arrive 3 days ago. I don't know if that's providence or what.

So if anyone feels moved to donate to relief, I encourage you to do so.

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It is unbelievable to comprehend what would have happened had this earthquake occured in another less-prepared and underdeveloped part of the world

Apparently rail service is already up and running in some parts of the eq affected areas.

I don't even think BC could manage that after an earthquake. We're frighteningly unprepared

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