zombieksa Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I was just curious as to who CDC really thinks is our #1 defense man on the team. A lot of people might choose one player because of his defensive skills, or because of his high points total at the end of the season but I want readers to take into consideration other aspects of their games as well. Major Criteria: - Defensive skill: is the player expected to play against the teams best offensive players? Are they expected to log lots of minutes in their own zone? Do they play a significant role on the PK? - Offensive flair: Does the player rack up a lot of points? Does the player just receive a lot of assists or does he find the back of the net a lot? Does he score 5 on 5 or does he rely on PP time? Does he make the PP more dangerous. Minor Criteria: - Is he a good skater? Is he fast? How is his fore checking and back checking? - is his plus/minus an indication of good play or preferable deployment? - how well does this player mesh with different defensive pairings? Does he fall apart more often than the other when partners are switched? - Is he a leader in the room? So take a minute and think about each one of these aspects of our top 3 defense man over the course of their career in Vancouver and make an educated decision. Dan Hamhuis: 3 Seasons: 161GP 11G 57A 68Pts 86PIM +56 7PPG 0GWG Kevin Bieksa: 8 Seasons: 440GP 46G 150A 196Pts 670PIM +30 17PPG 9GWG Alex Edler: 7 Seasons: 401GP 47G 148A 195Pts 212PIM +32 23PPG+1SHG 2GWG Playoffs Hamhuis: 24GP 1G 8A 9Pts 12PIM +3 2PPG 0GWG Bieksa: 61GP 9G 15A 24Pts 105PIM +10 2PPG 3GWG Edler: 55Gp 7G 20A 27Pts 34PIM +1 3PPG 0GWG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChenWei91 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Why isn't there a "Nobody" option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Hammer. Edler can be more of an impact player, but he doesn't bring it consistently on a game-to-game basis the way Hamhuis does. His reliable play on our backend haas been huge for us the past few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngNMGN99 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Why isn't there a "Nobody" option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Jane Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Hamhuis!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yawn.3x Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Dan Hamhuis easy. He's sound defensively, makes little mistakes, Canadian kid, and to top it off he still manages to put up points and usually from what I remember anyways; most of his goals are pretty clutch. If Edler would stop making silly mistakes and giveaways he would be our #1. He has great offensive potential and a great skill set; he just hasn't found his stride yet. Seem's like he finds it for awhile and plays better then any player in the league, then loses it and goes back down to rookie level. Bieksa is good but just makes to many silly plays, and penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthe12man Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 #1 Hamhuis, #2 Edler, #3 Bieksa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Chris Tanev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NP-4815162342 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Neither yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono2009 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Dave Babych................oh I mean Alex Edler! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Edler about 60% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuxFan09 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I should know better than to come into this thread. The team's #1 is Alex Edler. How he stacks up against other #1 defenseman in the league is irrelevant. He's the #1 on THIS team. He leads the team in: Points: 11 Goals: 4 TOI: 23:49 (leads 2nd place Hamhuis by just over a full minute per game) PP goals: 2 Shots: 35 Blocked shots: 35 (next best is Bieksa, with 22) Takeaways: 8 (actually tied with Ballard and Tanev) 2nd in hits, with 25 (only a whopping 1 hit behind the team leader Bieksa) Now, I realize that these aren't very advanced statistics and there's probably some metric out there that somebody could used to attempt to determine that Edler is not the team's #1, but I actually don't think you need to go very deep. Edler leads the team in pretty much every basic category for defensemen. Period. That would kind of mean that he's the best, or #1, defenseman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuxFan09 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Somebody here also mentioned a good point: A team's #1 isn't always actually their best defensive defenseman, strictly speaking. For instance, Brian Campbell is Florida's #1, but a guy like Mike Weaver is probably a better defensive defenseman. The thing is, Weaver doesn't have nearly as well a rounded game as Campbell and Campbell isn't so much worse defensively than Weaver that he'd be below Weaver on the depth chart. Same goes for Edler here. Hamhuis is more tidy in his own zone, but you're dreaming if you think he can impact a game like Edler can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai604 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 We have no true #1. We have a bunch of #2's, however. Edler is about as close to a true #1 as we've got, but he needs to be more consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Bieksa shouldn't even be in the poll, I think he would be a better 3rd liner then defense man imo lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoosh Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lychees Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Cam Barker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danthecanucksfan Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Hammer, Edler is in a learning curve still...... Edler has the potential to be our #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 It's Edler, but people don't realize that he's still very young at 26. He's just entering his prime. We'll probably find that number 1 in him, when he's around 28. Even, when he sucks, he's still able to change the game with one play. At his worst game, he's still better than everyone except Hamhuis. He's getting too much flak, he's playing on the wrong side, he's not a puck mover but being asked to play as a puck moving offensive defense man, and there is so much skill there that you want him to be more consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamacanuck18 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Bieksa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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