Smashian Kassian Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Do you think Fleury is good enough to slide up into the top 5? ......is Fleury a worth while option for the Canucks at the 6th pick? I don't think top 5. The top 5 seem set. Top 10 though for sure. I think some team will take him somewhere around 6-10. if he falls anywhere around 12 or later I would be shocked. Do I think he's a good pick for us? He would be, he's a great prospect, but I would opt for a forward. I do think he is in the same class as the other players around our pick so it certainly wouldn't be a reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE14 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 if thats the case, the Oilers may trade down (and get an extra pick in the process) to get him. They might feel he's worth the top five pick though. If they were smart they would trade down to our pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Trading up to the supposed 'top-5' isn't worth it because all those guys have their own weaknesses. Draisaitl: Too slow. Too German. Ekblad: Not Drew Doughty. Reinhart: Not Sidney Crosby. Bennett: Too small to be big and takes too many whack penalties. Dal Colle: Too much a man. Right, because no one is supposed to have weaknesses in the top five. And you also have to be a Sidney Crosby/Drew Doughty equivalent, oh and not to mention you can't be German. Simple Logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE14 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Right, because no one is supposed to have weaknesses in the top five. And you also have to be a Sidney Crosby/Drew Doughty equivalent, oh and not to mention you can't be German. Simple Logic. Just put him on your ignore list or don't even respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 They might feel he's worth the top five pick though. If they were smart they would trade down to our pick. To Van: 3rd overall To Edm: 6th Overall, Rights to Chris Tanev... Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvat Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 To Van: 3rd overall To Edm: 6th Overall, Rights to Chris Tanev... Thoughts? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 No. Way to add substance to discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE14 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvat Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 No. I would rather have a future top4 dman and ritchie \ virtanen than bennet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Greasy goals wins playoff games. Skill has been shut down for much of these playoffs. Makes you think what type of player we should be drafting. Someone with skill but also not afraid to get dirty and out battle. Crosby zero goals, Malkin zero goals, This goes back to last year against boston. Sounds familiar to another team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winthecup Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 To Van: 3rd overall To Edm: 6th Overall, Rights to Chris Tanev... Thoughts? hmmmm....that might be giving up too much for the Canucks but the deal would be good for the Oilers.....their future defense group would be looking good with Darnell Nurse, Haydn Fleury and Chris Tanev amongst the others they already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 To Van: 3rd overall To Edm: 6th Overall, Rights to Chris Tanev... Thoughts? I think Tanev is too much for a 3 spot jump. He's just too solid and just rounded into a young solid second pairing guy with to a of room to still grow IMO. Id hate to give the oil a player that reliable lol I'd do corrado and our pick though. He looks solid too but we're not giving up one of our best young players on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 To Van: 3rd overall To Edm: 6th Overall, Rights to Chris Tanev... Thoughts? No because I believe Ehlers to be the steal of the draft. Ekblad and Reinhart will go 1-2 but after that from 3 to 5 it becomes a crap shoot. Mock drafts are now starting to switch 3-5 around. So if someone falls out of the top 5 , we take him which is just as good as #3 and if not we take Ehlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 hmmmm....that might be giving up too much for the Canucks but the deal would be good for the Oilers.....their future defense group would be looking good with Darnell Nurse, Haydn Fleury and Chris Tanev amongst the others they already have. How would that improve the Canucks at all though? Our D-core was not the same when Tanev went down. He's probably the only untradeable player on the team right now outside of the Sedins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winthecup Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I think Tanev is too much for a 3 spot jump. He's just too solid and just rounded into a young solid second pairing guy with to a of room to still grow IMO. Id hate to give the oil a player that reliable lol I'd do corrado and our pick though. He looks solid too but we're not giving up one of our best young players on the team. I think Tanev is too much for a 3 spot jump. He's just too solid and just rounded into a young solid second pairing guy with to a of room to still grow IMO. Id hate to give the oil a player that reliable lol I'd do corrado and our pick though. He looks solid too but we're not giving up one of our best young players on the team. i would rather keep Corrado and any other decent d-man prospects in the system...that is a position the Canucks are lacking in right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winthecup Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 How would that improve the Canucks at all though? Our D-core was not the same when Tanev went down. He's probably the only untradeable player on the team right now outside of the Sedins. yea thats why i said that deal looks good from an Oiler perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 yea thats why i said that deal looks good from an Oiler perspective. If Ekblad is gone by their pick, they easily do that deal. I dont think we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 yea thats why i said that deal looks good from an Oiler perspective. Well hopefully our new GM isn't in the business of improving other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I would rather have a future top4 dman and ritchie \ virtanen than bennet hmmmm....that might be giving up too much for the Canucks but the deal would be good for the Oilers.....their future defense group would be looking good with Darnell Nurse, Haydn Fleury and Chris Tanev amongst the others they already have. I think Tanev is too much for a 3 spot jump. He's just too solid and just rounded into a young solid second pairing guy with to a of room to still grow IMO. Id hate to give the oil a player that reliable lol I'd do corrado and our pick though. He looks solid too but we're not giving up one of our best young players on the team. There's a pretty huge difference from pick 3 to pick 6 in the draft, Bennett/Reinhart/Ekblad are in a different class then guys like Ritchie/Virtanen/Ehlers/Nylander. Yes, Chris Tanev is a furture top 4 dman, and probably already is one. But a guy like Bennett or Reinhart have huge potential and a strong chance to be a future top 3 forward and All-Star player. I think that's gonna be the price in order to get that #3 pick, if not more. Also there was a link that someone posted that there was above an 85% chance that a #3 pick in the draft becomes a top 6 forward/top 4 dman, compared to a 35% chance of that happening to a #6 pick. There's a pretty huge dropoff there and I think it's worth the risk. Also, we have almost 20 million alone tied on our top 4 defenceman, if we don't trade away Edler, I think the price for Tanev might be too high for us, so IMO it's a win-win trade for both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Yea so two. What im trying to say is that we need a prospect with superstar potential. Three players in the entire league scored 40 or more goals. One had 50. Maybe you aren't being realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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