Darius Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 These are the #6 and #7 picks since 2002. Some pretty good players, and some bad years (like 2005). Not many franchise calibre players though (if any). Going through the drafts it was amazing to see how many great players went lower in the draft (Perry and Getzlaf are examples). Lets hope Canuck scouts do their jobs and we dont repeat 2005. Ive included their .ppg averages if the player has played a decent amount of games. The more recent the draft the less the sample size. 2002 6 - Scotty Upshall (.45 ppg) 7- Joffrey Lupul (.64 ppg) 2003 6- Milan Michalek ( .62 ppg) 7- Ryan Suter (.46 ppg) Defence 2004 6 - Al Montoya - Goalie 7 - Rostislav Olesz (.32 ppg) 2005 6 - Gilbert Brule 7 - Jack Skille 2006 6 - Derick Brassard (.57 ppg) 7 - Kyle Okposo (.63 ppg) 2007 6 - Sam Gagner (.50 ppg) 7 - Jakub Voracek (.64 ppg) 2008 6 - Nikita Filatov 7- Colin Wilson (.24 ppg) 2009 6 - Oliver Eman Larrson (.43 ppg) 7- Nazem Kadri (.64 ppg) 2010 6 - Brett Connolly 7- Jeff Skinner (.70 ppg) 2011 6 - Mika Zibanejad (.45 ppg) 7 - Mark Scheifele (.47 ppg) 2012 6 - Hampus Lindholm 7 - Mathew Dumba 2013 6- Sean Monahan (.46 ppg) 7 - Darnell Nurse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watermelon Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Suter pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien37 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 LOL Matt Dumba. He will be the worst #7 out of all those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatsPajamas Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 LOL Matt Dumba. He will be the worst #7 out of all those. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 These are the #6 and #7 picks since 2002. Some pretty good players, and some bad years (like 2005). Not many franchise calibre players though (if any). Going through the drafts it was amazing to see how many great players went lower in the draft (Perry and Getzlaf are examples). Lets hope Canuck scouts do their jobs and we dont repeat 2005. Ive included their .ppg averages if the player has played a decent amount of games. The more recent the draft the less the sample size. 2002 6 - Scotty Upshall (.45 ppg) 7- Joffrey Lupul (.64 ppg) 2003 6- Milan Michalek ( .62 ppg) 7- Ryan Suter (.46 ppg) Defence 2004 6 - Al Montoya - Goalie 7 - Rostislav Olesz (.32 ppg) 2005 6 - Gilbert Brule 7 - Jack Skille 2006 6 - Derick Brassard (.57 ppg) 7 - Kyle Okposo (.63 ppg) 2007 6 - Sam Gagner (.50 ppg) 7 - Jakub Voracek (.64 ppg) 2008 6 - Nikita Filatov 7- Colin Wilson (.24 ppg) 2009 6 - Oliver Eman Larrson (.43 ppg) 7- Nazem Kadri (.64 ppg) 2010 6 - Brett Connolly 7- Jeff Skinner (.70 ppg) 2011 6 - Mika Zibanejad (.45 ppg) 7 - Mark Scheifele (.47 ppg) 2012 6 - Hampus Lindholm 7 - Mathew Dumba 2013 6- Sean Monahan (.46 ppg) 7 - Darnell Nurse Good topic. So 10 out of 24 players are top 6/top pair. I don't know what to think.... Are those good odds or bad. Sure throws a bucket of reality over Horvat and Shink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Interesting stuff. Well this year we have an option for a Voracek I suppose with all the power forwards available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 LOL Matt Dumba. He will be the worst #7 out of all those. Didn't realize he went so high. Hopefully our number 6-7 is from BC wink wink. Or some projected top 5 who falls to us Draisatl (Oilers really like this guy), Reino (long shot), or Dal Colle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 Just to give you guys a comparison, here are the #5 picks from the same time span. Is it just me or does It looks like if you jump to the number 5 pick you are more likely to get a better player. It also looks like it takes most of these guys about 3-4 years before they make an impact (probably the same with the 6 and 7 picks above) Hence unless the guy is like Monahan, Skinner or Suter we shouldnt expect much the first two or three years. 2002 5 - Ryan Whitney 2003 5 - Thomas Vanek 2004 5 - Blake Wheeler 2005 5 - Carey Price 2006 Phil Kessel 2007 5 - Karl Alzner 2008 5 - Luke Schenn 2009 5 - Brayden Schenn 2010 5 - Nino Niederreiter 2011 5 - Ryan Strome 2012 5 - Morgan Reilly 2013 5 - Elias Lindholm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stork Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 These are the #6 and #7 picks since 2002. Some pretty good players, and some bad years (like 2005). Not many franchise calibre players though (if any). Going through the drafts it was amazing to see how many great players went lower in the draft (Perry and Getzlaf are examples). Lets hope Canuck scouts do their jobs and we dont repeat 2005. Ive included their .ppg averages if the player has played a decent amount of games. The more recent the draft the less the sample size. 2002 6 - Scotty Upshall (.45 ppg) 7- Joffrey Lupul (.64 ppg) 2003 6- Milan Michalek ( .62 ppg) 7- Ryan Suter (.46 ppg) Defence 2004 6 - Al Montoya - Goalie 7 - Rostislav Olesz (.32 ppg) 2005 6 - Gilbert Brule 7 - Jack Skille 2006 6 - Derick Brassard (.57 ppg) 7 - Kyle Okposo (.63 ppg) 2007 6 - Sam Gagner (.50 ppg) 7 - Jakub Voracek (.64 ppg) 2008 6 - Nikita Filatov 7- Colin Wilson (.24 ppg) 2009 6 - Oliver Eman Larrson (.43 ppg) 7- Nazem Kadri (.64 ppg) 2010 6 - Brett Connolly 7- Jeff Skinner (.70 ppg) 2011 6 - Mika Zibanejad (.45 ppg) 7 - Mark Scheifele (.47 ppg) 2012 6 - Hampus Lindholm 7 - Mathew Dumba 2013 6- Sean Monahan (.46 ppg) 7 - Darnell Nurse Nikita Filatov is the worst of them all. From full potential to stuck playing in Ottawas farm team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sestito Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Good topic. So 10 out of 24 players are top 6/top pair. I don't know what to think.... Are those good odds or bad. Sure throws a bucket of reality over Horvat and Shink I can tell you've only followed hockey for about six days. Ekman Larsson is a top 15 defenseman in the game, and there's no argument about it. Upshall has been an up and down player, but for me it's like Higgins. Brassard has a ppg of a 2nd liner, but he's not a top six forward for you? Lindholm is a top five young defenseman in the game... Monahan will be nothing less than a 2nd line C. Schiefele is a 2c, why didn't you bold him? The odds are a lot higher than you want to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Actually, I like the average quality of player that's being going in those spots. Gagner, Kadri and Schiefele are exactly the type of player I'm hoping we land! Offensive centers who can make plays and help create offense for their lines. Canes are up 2 nothing! #6 can be ours! I pray the Flames destroy us tonight, GO FLAMES GO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Just to give you guys a comparison, here are the #5 picks from the same time span. Is it just me or does It looks like if you jump to the number 5 pick you are more likely to get a better player. It also looks like it takes most of these guys about 3-4 years before they make an impact (probably the same with the 6 and 7 picks above) Hence unless the guy is like Monahan, Skinner or Suter we shouldnt expect much the first two or three years. 2002 5 - Ryan Whitney 2003 5 - Thomas Vanek 2004 5 - Blake Wheeler 2005 5 - Carey Price 2006 Phil Kessel 2007 5 - Karl Alzner 2008 5 - Luke Schenn 2009 5 - Brayden Schenn 2010 5 - Nino Niederreiter 2011 5 - Ryan Strome 2012 5 - Morgan Reilly 2013 5 - Elias Lindholm Yes, I wouldn't expect our pick to compete for a spot for a couple of years. I don't even expect to see Horvat till the year after next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien37 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Why? He is grossly overrated. Defensively he makes Bieksa look like an all star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenDrinkin Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Actually, I like the average quality of player that's being going in those spots. Gagner, Kadri and Schiefele are exactly the type of player I'm hoping we land! Offensive centers who can make plays and help create offense for their lines. Canes are up 2 nothing! #6 can be ours! I pray the Flames destroy us tonight, GO FLAMES GO! I'd rather cheer for the Canes, as opposed to against the Canucks, but different strokes for different folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magician Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Wow Suter that's definitely a franchise player. Most of those guys are awesome 2nd liners. I would be happy for someone that Kass can play with in 5 years on the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 Here is another question. After you see these lists and see that the #6 and #7 picks are typically .4-.6 ppg players (on average) would you give up Horvat (a number 9 pick) + a roster player for Evander Kane who is 22 years old, 6'2" and has averaged .62 points per game on some very bad teams. We know what we will get with Kane. How do we know that Horvat will turn out? Not saying Horvat is bad or anything, just saying that if Kane is offered up its not the end of the world is Horvat goes the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien37 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Nikita Filatov is the worst of them all. From full potential to stuck playing in Ottawas farm team He back playing in the KHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOgRook Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Ok so... Canes are up 2-0 right now. If they win and we lose we secure the 5th pick. If we win as well we will be tied. Correct me if I'm wrong please, but they would rank higher due to ROW. Looks like worst case scenario would be 6th. We could use all the young assets we can get right now. GCG. (Go Calgary/Carolina Go?). Lol I joke... Maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOgRook Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Here is another question. After you see these lists and see that the #6 and #7 picks are typically .4-.6 ppg players (on average) would you give up Horvat (a number 9 pick) + a roster player for Evander Kane who is 22 years old, 6'2" and has averaged .62 points per game on some very bad teams. We know what we will get with Kane. How do we know that Horvat will turn out? Not saying Horvat is bad or anything, just saying that if Kane is offered up its not the end of the world is Horvat goes the other way. Ok seriously ppl need to stop saying trading Bo is a good idea in the slightest. Just stop, it won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 Ok seriously ppl need to stop saying trading Bo is a good idea in the slightest. Just stop, it won't happen. Its just hypothetical - and it is my opinion that if Winnipeg offers Kane straight up for Horvat I would do it without losing any sleep. You get a young impact player for an unknown entity at the NHL level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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