KSniper88 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 farhan on 1040:speculating firing of torts was a sign of respect to torts to give him time to find a new job because gm might be hired in june/julyalsoboston might not let benning be canucks gm until after the draft, to prevent canucks from drafting all the boston targets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Look at it this way... gillis was going to fire him anyways... Inevitable. Torts becomes an analyst or works in KHL. Also means no feaster either... Has anyone not mentioned Nicholson as GM? Been quiet after reports the nucks were interested in hiring him.... For a new coach; guy Boucher? Jeff blashill? Laviolette? No to trotz, Wilson.... Get new perspectives and a creative pp coach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I am totally ok with them firing torts but I also sincerely hope two other things also happe. 1. Gully and Sully go too along with Melanson. Clean out the whole staff. 2. This does not mean that Linden believes this core should stay intact for yet another season of lacksadaisical coach killer play. Get rid of some of the core this offseason. I especially want to see Bieksa and Edler go for real dmen who can actually play defense. Even more important is to bring in some new leadership. The Sedins are great and are going nowhere but it is time to consider moving guys like Bieksa and/or Kesler and bring in new voices in the room. Willie Mitchell and Manny Malhotra are two guys that I would love to see back in Canucks colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksCup2015 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 When you have "No-show Joe" and the invisible Marleau it's hard to get your team anywhere. Is Couture the only person he is supposed to lean on to show up to big games? He needs his leaders to play like leaders and they don't (not really any fault of the coach).oh the IRONY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I would have given Torts another year but I guess Trevor wants a clean slate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSniper88 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Look at it this way... gillis was going to fire him anyways... Inevitable. Torts becomes an analyst or works in KHL.Also means no feaster either...Has anyone not mentioned Nicholson as GM? Been quiet after reports the nucks were interested in hiring him....For a new coach; guy Boucher? Jeff blashill? Laviolette? No to trotz, Wilson.... Get new perspectives and a creative pp coach!Nicholson is not a gm kind of guy, he's more of a president business typeWe need a gm that has an eye for hockey talent, draft etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksCup2015 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I am totally ok with them firing torts but I also sincerely hope two other things also happe. 1. Gully and Sully go too along with Melanson. Clean out the whole staff.2. This does not mean that Linden believes this core should stay intact for yet another season of lacksadaisical coach killer play. Get rid of some of the core this offseason. I especially want to see Bieksa and Edler go for real dmen who can actually play defense.Melason has been great with the goalies..why would you get rid of him?if you're going to clean house, whats the point of waiting at year? do it now...Kesler has alot of value post olympics so he should be movedonly issue is Edler, you hope he recovers and you try and get him to waive at the deadline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksCup2015 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Look at it this way... gillis was going to fire him anyways... Inevitable. Torts becomes an analyst or works in KHL.Also means no feaster either...Has anyone not mentioned Nicholson as GM? Been quiet after reports the nucks were interested in hiring him....For a new coach; guy Boucher? Jeff blashill? Laviolette? No to trotz, Wilson.... Get new perspectives and a creative pp coach!Larry Robinson please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 2011 Cup loss 2012 first round exit 2013 first round exit Coach fired 2014 no playoffs GM fired Coach fired no change in players Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting the same result. Coaching, much like goaltending has never been this team's problem Interesting to see when / if any players are actually moved since the common denominator in this mess is folks...unfortunately, the players blame coaches all you want, blame torts all you want. Torts saw a SOFT TEAM PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY, when he came in here. he assessed the competition and realized with this lineup his players are going to have to learn to play tougher physically and mentally if they want to win a cup - thus he tried to use the regular season to teach them to play the way they need to, to actually win...which they simply whined about and wilted like the wimps hey are... if you disagree, you certainly haven't watched the Anaheim/Dallas series, the LA/SJ series, the way Boston plays just because he has a team full of whiney pufters was not his fault, its the team full of whiney old pufters... wrong decision QFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I wonder if Torts found out he was being fired by watching TSN. It wouldn't surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luongo_01 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Haha I love how the Torts apologists are all crying over this. Torts was a mistake from the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tystick Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Trevor did say on Tim & Sid Kesler has had "concerns". And they were continuing to talk about them. Maybe that was one of the concerns??? My guess is that he doesn't want to be around for a drawn out rebuild, he wants to compete now. If we're planning to rebuild/retool, I think he wants out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSniper88 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 candidates: Todd Mclellan, Don Hay, Jeff Blashill, Larry Robinson, Peter Laviolette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Excitement you want....? Then Mike Johnston is you guy, Trev. Winterhawks GM and Head Coach Mike Johnston is a regular presenter at hockey coaching clinics all over the world. Throughout the season he'll be sharing his coaching philosophies with winterhawks.com. DEVELOPING OFFENSIVE HOCKEY Changing the way we play and think AS COACHES WE MUST CONSIDER: • Fans want excitement and have a lot of options to be entertained. • Owners will hire coaches that can produce shots, scoring chances and goals and win. • Players have more fun playing an up tempo offensive game. • Parents enjoy the opportunity for their kids to get offensive opportunities. • Memories are made from offensive play (that multi-goal game). • Teams that score early and have a first period lead win or tie 80% of games, therefore come out with an offensive focus. • To try and figure out how to generate more offense; consider what gives you the most trouble defensively. • Teams that challenge offensively draw more penalties. DETERMINE YOUR OFFENSIVE SIDE…..WOULD YOU... • Pull your goaltender and make a 5-on-3 power play into a 6-on-3 power play? • Allow your wingers not to come back in the defensive zone…to be a threat in the neutral zone for a quick counter? • Play with four forwards and one defenseman? • Pick a smaller, more skilled defenseman over a bigger, grittier, less skilled defenseman? • When down by two goals, pull your goaltender with five minutes left? • Pull your goaltender with eight seconds left in the period and a face-off in their zone? • Allow the more offensive players to cheat to the offensive side of the puck or will all players have the same defensive responsibilities? • Use forwards on the power play point? • Work on plays to score on the penalty kills? • Allow your defence to jump into the rush indiscriminately? SEVEN KEYS TO OFFENSIVE SUCCESS 1. 70% Of Every Practice Should Be Skill Drills • Each player should have lots of repetitions of passing, receiving, shooting and skating manoeuvres. • Practices should be challenging and competitive offensively. • You don’t always need ice time to work on skills. • Subtle skills like players presenting their forehand away from the puck and being prepared to shoot are important for coaches to teach. • Practice scoring situations; carry and shoot, shot off the pass, shoot through a screen, quick move quick release, deflections, rebounds, wrap arounds, up high in tight plays and quick dekes. 2. Be a First Pass Team • Defencemen need to look for the smart play. • Allow passes to the front of the net or through the middle. • Discourage the “dump out” or “no look rim” style of play. • Safe plays stifle creativity. • An area pass is still a direct pass…utilize bank passes off the boards and laying pucks into open spaces for team mates to skate into. • The players away from the puck have a responsibility to get their stick open and available for direct passes (much like a receiver in football). • Use of deception “look away” to have more time to make a play. • Practice transition off the back check and their rush chances. 3. Shoot the Puck and Drive the Net • Sounds simple, but the volume of shots is key. • Check the shot totals of the top scorers in the NHL. Also shots that miss the net or are blocked per game; the puck must get through. • Defensive coverage often breaks down after a shot. • Net drives off the puck create a play at the net, but also openings in the slot. First two players away from the puck must drive the net with no hesitation (unless the puck carrier has the wide lane deep). • The first drive should be through the mid lane. • Funnel shots and players to the net. 4. Activate Your Defense into the Attack • Encourage them to join and stay in the rush from the breakout… supporting the mid or wide lane up the ice. • Often the net D will have an opportunity to move up ice before the low forward in defensive zone coverage. • Make the attack an odd number by their blueline. • Responsibility is in the hands of the puck carrier. Don’t blame the defense for creating options. • Go after chips or dump ins when they have the speed. 5. Stretch Out the Offensive Zone • Get the puck to the back of the net on the cycle and work plays from there, stressing their coverage. • On shots off the rush move the puck low/high right away and catch them over backchecking. • On low scrambles move the puck back to the point quickly and catch the team collapsing. • Players and coaches underestimate the danger of point shots. 6. Cycle With a Purpose • Challenge their ability to contain by driving the seams and going to the net with the puck. • Set picks and screens to open up ice for the puck carrier. • Work the overload. Once the puck is passed back to the corner that player needs to get into an overload position ready to shoot. • Defense supports the backside, strong side slide, or mid ice seam practice plays involving the defense on the cycle. 7. Work Set Plays • Have set face-off plays for each zone which will create an offensive advantage. Your centers should take responsibility for every setup. Remember you can win by losing. • Control breakouts vs. low trap. Work options off a set pattern. • PP stretch breakout, which has the ability to score on the rush. • Regroups geared to beat the trap and hit their blue line with speed. OFFENSIVE SKILLS WHICH NEED TO BE PRACTICED ON A REGULAR BASIS: • One time shooting • One touch passing • Deception, look away, fake shot, fake pass • Skating deception, change of pace • Timing to hit the openings with speed • Offensive anticipation… “thinking” • Threat to score from a distance • Vision and pre-play awareness • Strength on the puck (protection skills) • Willingness to stay in front of the net and in front of shots • Triple threat position on the rush…get the puck on your forehand • Defense dragging the blueline and getting shots through • Open yourself up or uncheck yourself to be available in a scoring area • Ability to play rebounds • Shooting in stride…ability to beat players one-on-one • “Good stick” to steal pucks and create transition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 candidates: Todd Mclellan, Don Hay, Jeff Blashill, Larry Robinson, Peter Laviolette Add John Stevens to that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1970 and beyond Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 And after the coach is gone get rid of a few overpaid players that were a bigger disappointment than the coach. I think he should stay. I just want to watch a team that comes out to play every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 candidates: Todd Mclellan, Don Hay, Jeff Blashill, Larry Robinson, Peter Laviolette Kevin Dineen .. Larry Robinson if he would leave Cali. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Melason has been great with the goalies..why would you get rid of him? if you're going to clean house, whats the point of waiting at year? do it now...Kesler has alot of value post olympics so he should be moved only issue is Edler, you hope he recovers and you try and get him to waive at the deadline Agree with Melanson. He's done an awesome job with the kids and is a big reason for the success of Schneids and Lack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksCup2015 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Haha I love how the Torts apologists are all crying over this. Torts was a mistake from the beginning.apologists? umm dude the players are on the ice three years running they have played like crap in the playoffs and now regular seasona coach who is now in the second round was blamed constantly on here as the problem, the players had 'tuned him out' so to speak, he was too stuck in his ways, he was not able to adjust they saidwell the same group of PLAYERS failed again with yet another coachwhen DO YOU AND PLAYER APOLOGISTS START WANTING THE REAL ISSUE DEALT WITH - THE PLAYERS?its pretty simple / common sense man....when you need to fire 2 coaches in 2 years because players are underperforming, sometimes you have to use your brain and accept its not the coaching, its actually the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 McLellan with Robinson and Oates? .. that would be an impressive staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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