DeNiro Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 "Overrated" doesn't mean that he's all offense - he may not be the best shutdown in junior but he's still pretty damn good So what if Virtanen plays less than 17 minutes a game? Higher TOI doesn't guarantee higher PPG First unit powerplay does though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComptonCanuck Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) Lol. Regurgitated garbage, nothing more. Don't get me wrong he has elite level skill, and his defensive game comes form having the puck on his stick. Put him up against bigger tougher checkers at the next level, and his "great defensive game" won't be so great. he's a relentless, brutal playr to play against. watch him pplay he is far from weak Edited March 15, 2015 by ComptonCanuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Do you guys think Jake has a good shot of making the roster next year? He has the speed, size and is pretty skilled but is he capable of playing consistent enough? Would another year in the dub benefit him? Two teenagers in two year world be pretty awesome if Virtanen is able to make as significant of an impact as Horvat next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 he's a relentless, brutal playr to play against. watch him pplay he is far from weak He's a hard worker, but brutal to play against? Give me a break. Too much tire pumping going on. Continue on with trashing every Canuck prospect though. Seems to be a passion of yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) First unit powerplay does though. On Kingston though Highest scorer has 48 points - Hitmen have 5 players with more (including Jake) Edited March 15, 2015 by Dasein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 He had two tonight. Hasn't stopped people from questioning him apparently. Bust rumblings out already, and from the usual suspects. Guess they want to be first on the bandwagon, maybe cuz they missed out on Jensen and Shinkaruk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 On Kingston though Highest scorer has 48 points - Hitmen have 5 players with more (including Jake) Who cares if it's Kingston? He's getting prime man advantage minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Lol. Regurgitated garbage, nothing more. Don't get me wrong he has elite level skill, and his defensive game comes from having the puck on his stick. Put him up against bigger tougher checkers at the next level, and his "great defensive game" won't be so great. Never hurt Mike Richards in his prime, and Bennett's bigger than him Shinkaruk's size shouldn't be an issue but all of a sudden it will be when it comes to a Flames prospect who is bigger? Riiight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Who cares if it's Kingston? He's getting prime man advantage minutes. With a unit that has just about as much talent as Calgary's 2nd unit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I personally believe Jake Virtanen will play hockey sometimes and will also not play hockey sometimes. I believe he is most likely to not play hockey during the summer months, but I'm not sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Never hurt Mike Richards in his prime, and Bennett's bigger than him Shinkaruk's size shouldn't be an issue but all of a sudden it will be when it comes to a Flames prospect who is bigger? Riiight Why do you keep bringing up other players? Bennett and Richards are nothing alike. Shinkaruk? Try and stay on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 With a unit that has just about as much talent as Calgary's 2nd unit 1st units and 2nd units can't be compared because first units typically get the majority of time and/or score first eliminating the 2nd units chance at time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) Why do you keep bringing up other players? Bennett and Richards are nothing alike. Shinkaruk? Try and stay on topic. I am on topic - SIZE Richards is a small two-way forward who was great defensively against the "big men" in the NHL - something you said that will erase Bennett's defensive prowess when he makes the jump Shinkaruk is supposed to fine with his size in making the jump, but all of a sudden a bigger guy in Bennett is supposed to have issues why? Please be more consistent in your arguments 1st units and 2nd units can't be compared because first units typically get the majority of time and/or score first eliminating the 2nd units chance at time. That's a fair point but it's not like Bennett has any help - which was my point Edited March 15, 2015 by Dasein 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComptonCanuck Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Why do you keep bringing up other players? Bennett and Richards are nothing alike. Shinkaruk? Try and stay on topic. you need to watch more bennett. he's a good defensive player and elite offensive player, while also being a pest to play against. something i WISH the canucks had. you are spewing your ingorance just because bennett is a flame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) I am on topic - SIZE Richards is a small two-way forward who was great defensively against the "big men" in the NHL - something you said that will erase Bennett's defensive prowess when he makes the jump Shinkaruk is supposed to fine with his size in making the jump, but all of a sudden a bigger guy in Bennett is supposed to have issues why? Please be more consistent in your arguments That's a fair point but it's not like Bennett has any help - which was my point Richards made his name as a rugged two-way center. Bennett is not a rugged two-way center contrary to some peoples misconceptions on here. What will erase his "defensive prowess" is not being able to hod onto the puck for days against weaker/smaller/younger players in the OHL. I've never said Shinkaruk would be fine with his size. I've always said that will be his biggest hurdle. And it's showing in his first season in the A. Guys who are used to having the puck on their sticks all the time typically get a wake up call when they face bigger and stronger guys on the puck who take the body instead of getting danced. Bennett plays with a projected top 10 pick in Crouse, a player who's over a point per game in Watson, and a solid overage powerplay QB in McEneny. I would hardly say he has no help. Edited March 15, 2015 by DeNiro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiftynifty Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 you need to watch more bennett. he's a good defensive player and elite offensive player, while also being a pest to play against. something i WISH the canucks had. you are spewing your ingorance just because bennett is a flame To be honest, same could be said of your knowledge about Jake lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 To be honest, same could be said of your knowledge about Jake lol. Lol pretty much. I haven't seen much insight from him on Jake, even though this is supposed to be a Virtanen thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComptonCanuck Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) To be honest, same could be said of your knowledge about Jake lol. north-south player, average hockey iq, average vision, good powerful wrist shot, throws punishign hits, cocky and wants to win, average defensive ability, very fast will max out as a 2nd/low end 1st line wing who has the capabity of 30 goals with the right linemaets Edited March 15, 2015 by ComptonCanuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Richards made his name as a rugged two-way center. Bennett is not a rugged two-way center contrary to some peoples misconceptions on here. What will erase his "defensive prowess" is not being able to hod onto the puck for days against weaker/smaller/younger players in the OHL. I've never said Shinkaruk would be fine with his size. I've always said that will be his biggest hurdle. And it's showing in his first season in the A. Guys who are used to having the puck on their sticks all the time typically get a wake up call when they face bigger and stronger on the puck who take the body instead of getting danced. Bennett plays with a projected top 10 pick in Crouse, a player who's over a point per game in Watson, and a solid overage powerplay QB in McEneny. I would hardly say he has no help. Bennett is pretty rugged. You really are digging yourself into a hole here Crouse is projected as a top 10 because of his complete game rather than his offense. Watson has scored 13 points in 9 games since Bennett returns - only two of which weren't assisted or scored by Bennett, and they were PSs. McEneny is doing pretty solid as an overager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 nichukinen will be better than horvart imo eventually but horvart is good to win championships with!!! hopefuly jake virtan can help be what we LOST in nichukskenen Nichuskin will be in back in Russia soon imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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