thad Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I think it's fine. If Anaheim lost in the first round and we had lost in the second, do you want them picking first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocanucks1916 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 The philosophy of giving bad teams better draft picks is broken, anyway. In the old days it was ok because rich teams could become perennial contenders by signing free agents (NYR, Detroit, Toronto), The draft was the only way to level the playing field. But in a salary cap world, there's no reason for it. All it does is reward failure and promote this disgusting "tank 4 McDavid" mentality. Draft order should be decided by a straight lottery, where every team has a 1/30 chance at the top pick. That way the formula for success is exactly what it should be: draft smart (regardless of position) & develop good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 If you lose to a lower ranking team in the playoffs you should swap picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbanezRG Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Honestly, you sound like a whining baby. Well be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 In a couple years We'll trade a 2nd for whoever Calgary picks at 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I get that man, I'm just saying the system is stupid. Its frustrating Would the previous system of regular season ranking being the only factor and playoffs being ignored have worked out better for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyhee Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I understand that we finished higher than Calgary in the regular season but don't you think that draft placement should be assigned after each round using the regular season standings to sort out each team's seed? I find it mindbogglingly ridiculous that we could lose to Calgary and end up with the 23rd pick in the draft while Calgary gets the 15th overall. How a team that eliminates another team and somehow end up with a higher pick makes no sense to me. Am I missing something? I think basing draft position on the round a team is eliminated would be a much worse system. 1. 82 game seasons form a much larger sample than a 4 to 7 game playoff series. The chance of a few key injuries or some puck luck affecting the overall results of a best of 7 series is quite a bit higher than affecting the results of an 82 game season. 2. Sometimes a team runs into a hot team (e.g. the 2012 L.A. Kings) in the 1st round. Why should the team that lost to the Kings in the 1st round get a higher pick than the team that lost to the Kings in the 2nd round? How many people in the summer of 2012 living outside British Columbia would have thought that after two consecutive Presidents Trophies, a year out from making it to game 7 of the S.C. Final, the Canucks should get a middle pick because they met the eventual Cup champions in the 1st round instead of, say, the 3rd round? Should the Washington Capitals, after their Presidents Trophy of 2010 with 121 points, have gotten a middle pick because of their 1st round playoff loss? btw, the Caps followed that up the next season with a 107 point season, 2nd overall in the NHL (and this time they did make it through the 1st round of the playoffs.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I think that the draft system should be changed as well, here is my twist on it. #1. First year, players are ranked for the first year and the following year for a total of 60 players, the following year the remaining eligible players are then ranked and drafted #2. No team would be allowed to draft in the exact same (top 60 spot) as the previous year, and should be done on a 5 year rotation, and not being able to move higher, just because it's the last spot they haven't been in, so accordingly, they would move down in the draft. So basically, the 2 years Ekblad, Reinhart, Bennett, Draisaitl, MacKinnon, Barkov, Drouin and Jones etc. would all be put into the same draft (top 60)....league standings would be used,.......for the most part there would be some risk drafting a player 2 years away, but it would spread the wealth out a little. The second year, lesser players would be drafted, in the same manner, still allowing lower placed teams to pick first, in the next years final standings..... I know this is complicated, and will need tweaking, but it would spread the talent around a little bit more, with more risk on those teams trying to reach First overall. Basically, anything that prevents awarding a total tanking......or at least making it a very painful and expensive decision. aka, prolonged basement(Low attendance), if not using UFA's and total cap space as well Like I say......complicated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I also think this forces teams into spending more time and money on scouting.....just saying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightFlush Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I think that every year, all 30 GMs should get into a ring and have a Battle Royale, last man standing gets 1st overall, first one out gets 30th. Then lather, rinse, repeat for the next 6 rounds. We can throw in baseball bats, foam hands, and cheese heads to make it interesting. CAGE MATCH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 We overacheived, and are reaping the benefits. There's nothing wrong with the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realtor Rod Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 How to please everyone all the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsedin33 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I understand that we finished higher than Calgary in the regular season but don't you think that draft placement should be assigned after each round using the regular season standings to sort out each team's seed? I find it mindbogglingly ridiculous that we could lose to Calgary and end up with the 23rd pick in the draft while Calgary gets the 15th overall. How a team that eliminates another team and somehow end up with a higher pick makes no sense to me. Am I missing something? I doubt there is a massive drop off of talent between 15 and 23 anyways. Prospects are prospects, you really never know what you're going to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I doubt there is a massive drop off of talent between 15 and 23 anyways. Prospects are prospects, you really never know what you're going to get. Pretty much yup.. You can rank the talent but predicting who's got the fire in their belly is a whole other story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver FTW :D Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I agree the draft system is flawed. I think every team should have an equal chance every year. 1/30. No tanking for 1st pick anymore and teams like the canucks who try and win the cup every year are not doomed to a mid-pick for the next 40 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Pretty much yup.. You can rank the talent but predicting who's got the fire in their belly is a whole other story. Just see if any of them have eaten Chipotle or Taco Bell recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Just see if any of them have eaten Chipotle or Taco Bell recently. Precisely.. A guy like Ronnie Kenins never drops the chalupa and just look at that boy skate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 The way teams are ranked is fine, if you lose in the 1st 2 rounds, it doesn't matter how you did; only the final four are the dominant teams and therefore they pick lower. You're just upset trying to find an excuse for the Canucks to move up in the draft. They did it to themselves by winning the last game of the year. To be fair, the Coyotes made it to the Conference Finals in 2012 and they were nowhere near elite. Also, if one regular season win is worth 8 spots worse, yet one less round of playoffs is worth nothing, isn't that unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Just see if any of them have eaten Chipotle or Taco Bell recently. The fire may start in the belly, but it definitely doesn't end there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SKATES1STICK Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I call B.S., I wiki'd race and it didn't say squat about Canucks fans or Vancouverites being racially distinct. thats what they want you to think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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