Ryan Strome Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 20 minutes ago, Jimayo said: It's called statistics. Measurable stats trump your vague doom and gloom predictions. Norway tops all the drivers of what makes a democracy great for the majority. Whether you want to believe it or not is still irrelevant. Funny a poll just came out taken from dozens of countries stating Canada is the best Country on earth. Are other Countries citizens opinions stats? Oh and btw talking about your stats, its not my "doom and gloom predictions" it's statistics and reality, do some research. Look up Ontario during the Rae days and look up B.C during the dark 90's. Your stats will show you how many b.c'ers were unemployed, it will also show you how much big business left B.C While you're researching your stats take the time to google Rae days you will see how azz backwards Ontario was and how many were unemployed and on social services. Now back to Norway, ya their insane tax rates are true democracy lmao and they sure are a relevant country globally aren't they? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 22 minutes ago, Jimayo said: He's not going full blown socialist, or even full blown democratic socialist. But taking some major steps in the right direction. Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with his actual plan before trying to critique it. No point Sanders won't make it. I'm waiting until his love for communism is constantly brought up. The multiple visits he made to the Soviet union will look bad to American voters imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 40 minutes ago, thejazz97 said: Heh. I'm somewhere in the middle between left, right, and socialism. My parents know that I support Trudeau and that I would have also supported Harper had he won. That being said, I also know that Canada will be massively in debt if our PM keeps handing out cash like he is, more than we would have been under Harper. As far as America goes for me, it's Rand Paul > John Kasich > Bernie Sanders > the rest. I think a rational republican is what America needs, but Paul and Kasich stand relatively no chance against anyone else. I don't even think Paul was in the last debate. America needs to clone Brad Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Just now, Ryan Strome said: America needs to clone Brad Wall. Canada does, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Just now, thejazz97 said: Canada does, too. I agree. Or he needs to run Federally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Just now, Ryan Strome said: I agree. Or he needs to run Federally. IIRC he doesn't know French. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 1 minute ago, thejazz97 said: IIRC he doesn't know French. Ya thats a problem.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimayo Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 4 hours ago, thejazz97 said: I thought I did. He's planning taxes on Wall Street (only bit I really remember though) as well as other things. I should probably go over it again. Even still, a capitalist America would not approve of this as much as other people would, IMO. Polling suggest otherwise. He wins against every republican(a feat hillary doesn't). He's the single most popular candidate amongst all eligible voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Just now, Jimayo said: Polling suggest otherwise. He wins against every republican(a feat hillary doesn't). He's the single most popular candidate amongst all eligible voters. I wonder what the crossover is. Dems who won't vote Bernie and Republicans who would rather vote Bernie than the Republican nominee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimayo Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 2 hours ago, thejazz97 said: I wonder what the crossover is. Dems who won't vote Bernie and Republicans who would rather vote Bernie than the Republican nominee. Anti-establishment types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapefruits Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 23 hours ago, Ryan Strome said: Obama is a perfect example.. Good ole Obama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 2 hours ago, Grapefruits said: Good ole Obama And then if you actually live in the country like I do you look at that load of BS lies and laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapefruits Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 30 minutes ago, awalk said: And then if you actually live in the country like I do you look at that load of BS lies and laugh So the Debt hasn't doubled? How about that unsecured debt? How about the record number of people relying on some sore of government assistance? God bless America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowl Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 There will be a battle that ends with Hillary stealing the nomination via the superdelegate elites, no matter how close Bernie makes it. The only problem for Hillary is the college students supporting Bernie may turn their back on Hillary come the general election, and a GOP candidate could actually win from lower Voter turnout. Young people like Senator Sanders message, but unfortunately, life experience has yet to teach them that all politicians make promises they can never keep, and disappointment is all they get in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowl Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 36 minutes ago, awalk said: And then if you actually live in the country like I do you look at that load of BS lies and laugh I do too, and that statement in the photograph is reasonably accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragar Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 11 hours ago, Fowl said: I do too, and that statement in the photograph is reasonably accurate. Ditto. I would love to see awalk show us how I am not getting less health coverage for more premiums, or show any reasonable signs of proof that the meme is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 The meme is a laughable simplification of the issues it is trying to comprehend. https://www.quora.com/Who-created-more-debt-%E2%80%93-Bush-or-Obama http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/08/17/432578282/fact-check-is-it-obamas-fault-that-poverty-has-grown Also my existing healthcare has not changed, I am still under the same coverage, my premiums did not go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 "Look up Ontario during the Rae days and look up B.C during the dark 90's. Your stats will show you how many b.c'ers were unemployed, it will also show you how much big business left B.C " While doing that try to keep in mind that Asia was in meltdown mode and much of BC's trade is Asia bound. While looking at the current situation with the NDP in Alberta try to keep in mind the complete collapse of oil prices world wide. Moral of the story, outside factors can play a huge part in economic boom and bust. NDP bad/good, Liberal bad/good, Conservative bad/good is just too simplistic in thought to be taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 2 hours ago, gurn said: "Look up Ontario during the Rae days and look up B.C during the dark 90's. Your stats will show you how many b.c'ers were unemployed, it will also show you how much big business left B.C " While doing that try to keep in mind that Asia was in meltdown mode and much of BC's trade is Asia bound. While looking at the current situation with the NDP in Alberta try to keep in mind the complete collapse of oil prices world wide. Moral of the story, outside factors can play a huge part in economic boom and bust. NDP bad/good, Liberal bad/good, Conservative bad/good is just too simplistic in thought to be taken seriously. I never mentioned Alberta. I said the Rae days and B.C during the 90's. The op was hell bent on statistics so I welcomed him to research the statistics in those 2 provinces during those time periods. There is a reason the ndp haven't formed Government in either province in nearly 2 decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 And I welcomed him to not just settle on who was in power, but what was going on at the time. Perhaps the reason that party has not formed government in those provinces is because people became to focused on who held power and not the surrounding circumstance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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