The Canadian Election - Liberals Win Majority

[Hugor Hill]

The whole notion of 'liberals' as he belittles is ridiculous anyway. His constant childish and meaningless generalizations are so stupid, I've never seen someone so insecure in their beliefs they have to endlessly trash others to feel good about themselves. It's pitiful.

Doesn't matter how hard Mr. Ambien tries Stephen Harper is still not going to be prime minister comes Oct 20th.

[Lancaster]

Wrong yet again. Even a broken clock is right occasionally. Ambien is like a Nascar track.

Logically, Canada can't afford 100 million dollars to help ten thousand refugees? My god, we must have the economy of Swaziland!

Of course you do. Of course you do.

http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/why-canada-should-take-in-20-times-more-refugees/

Harper just called the longest election in Canada since the 19th century and the millions being spent on it could have helped 10,000 refugees alone (that's a conservative estimate...) It's a complete lie that we can't afford it.

Watch the Conservatives that supported bombing ISIS under the pretenses of helping people now decry actually helping said people by bringing them to safety in Canada. It's absurdity at a national level. 500 million committed to bombing ISIS could have helped nearly 50 thousand refugees.

But no, you're right. We can't afford it.

I never did anything that might label me a sex offender. No.

Yes, I'm still a teen. I'm whatever you want me to be. You just have to believe it.

Incomplete report on the amount of money required per person.

It doesn't include healthcare costs. What about accommodations? Public schools for the children, skills upgrading for adults. Counseling for those suffering from PTSD. Then you throw in the welfare and assistance cheques (perhaps a bit less than expected) and the regular processing of the claim.... it's way more than just $11000.

I don't know the exact cost for education, but as I mentioned before, international students pay about $30000 for a year in high school. But that figure was from over a decade ago, so maybe it's went up? Probably that's not the actual cost, but education isn't cheap.

The government aren't even meeting the funding requirement for domestic students. My wife can't even take ESL courses unless she forks over $1600 per semester. She jumped through the hoops to immigrate here, with skills that just need certification and upgrading..... but gotta pay out of pocket, but a bunch of refugees come here and get to jump in front of the line for free? I'm all for helping people, especially refugees, but help normal immigrants first before helping extraordinary cases.

[thejazz97]

Values exist outside of both science and religion. Whether people / a person has values or not has little to do with what science or religion they practice.

And science is not math.

This is true, for the most part. They vary slightly through each strain of belief in a higher power. It's very interesting though, that everyone has morals built into their DNA, regardless of religion.

And science is a tool, just like rulers are a tool to measure space, and clocks are a tool to measure time, science is a tool to explain what we see around us.

[RUPERTKBD]

This is true, for the most part. They vary slightly through each strain of belief in a higher power. It's very interesting though, that everyone has morals built into their DNA, regardless of religion.

And science is a tool, just like rulers are a tool to measure space, and clocks are a tool to measure time, science is a tool to explain what we see around us.

And what happens when that "tool" shows us something that runs contrary to the teachings of a certain book? Do we discredit the "tool" as flawed, or do we discredit the book?

[Heretic]

Back to the election....with this being the Social Media year, is anyone really surprised by the amount of negative news items?

Conservative director booted from riding board over comments describing ‘Indians’ as ‘self-loathing’

APTN National News
A Conservative riding association director in Ontario who posted online comments describing “Indians” as “self-loathing” and the Cree woman recently crowned Mrs. Universe as a “monster” was punted Tuesday from her position after the party became aware of her social media diatribes.

Sue MacDonell was on the board of directors for the newly formed Bay of Quinte Conservative riding association. She was also an active volunteer for Bay of Quinte Conservative candidate Jodie Jenkins’ campaign. Campaign officials confirmed she had recently done some door-to-door canvassing in the riding.

Pictured: Former Bay of Quinte Conservative riding association director Sue MacDonell. Facebook

All that appears to have ended after the party learned of MacDonell’s social media comments. The party issued a statement through riding association president John Bonn saying MacDonell was forced from her position.

“This morning, the Bay of Quinte Electoral District Association became aware that one of its board members had posted some inappropriate content on her personal social media site, in her personal capacity. Upon become aware of the content, the association required and accepted her resignation effective immediately,” said the statement. “The views expressed by the now former board member will not be tolerated and do not reflect those of the Bay of Quinte EDA.”

APTN National News contacted MacDonell Tuesday morning asking her to confirm her views.

“What about them?” said MacDonell.

MacDonell then hung up the phone after an APTN reporter read the comments she posted back to her.

“Sorry, not interested,” she said.

APTN also contacted Jenkins and asked him if he shared her views.

“I have no idea what you are talking about,” said Jenkins. “You are catching me completely off-guard.”

MacDonell describes herself as a former Toronto police sergeant on her Facebook page where she recently posted a photo of Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his wife Laureen, along with anti-immigration links referencing the rising migrant crisis in Europe.

Just recently, MacDonell posted a link from right-wing shock website The Rebel Media about Ash Callingbull, the Cree woman recently crowned Mrs. Universe. The article said Callingbull compared Harper to Hitler.

MacDonell wrote that Callingbull was an “entitled liberal pet” and a “monster.” After one poster said the pageant should take back the crown over the Hitler comparison, MacDonell blasted all First Nation people.

“From an Indian??? LOL!!!! They’re allowed to break every law we have and bankrupt the country,” wrote MacDonell.

http://aptn.ca/news/2015/09/08/conservative-director-booted-from-riding-board-over-comments-describing-indians-as-self-loathing/

[thejazz97]

And what happens when that "tool" shows us something that runs contrary to the teachings of a certain book? Do we discredit the "tool" as flawed, or do we discredit the book?

I assume you're referring to the Bible? I would say neither are flawed, there's just a way they work in harmony that most, maybe all people haven't found yet.

[Hugor Hill]

Back to the election....with this being the Social Media year, is anyone really surprised by the amount of negative news items?

Conservative director booted from riding board over comments describing ‘Indians’ as ‘self-loathing’

APTN National News

A Conservative riding association director in Ontario who posted online comments describing “Indians” as “self-loathing” and the Cree woman recently crowned Mrs. Universe as a “monster” was punted Tuesday from her position after the party became aware of her social media diatribes.

Sue MacDonell was on the board of directors for the newly formed Bay of Quinte Conservative riding association. She was also an active volunteer for Bay of Quinte Conservative candidate Jodie Jenkins’ campaign. Campaign officials confirmed she had recently done some door-to-door canvassing in the riding.

Pictured: Former Bay of Quinte Conservative riding association director Sue MacDonell. Facebook

All that appears to have ended after the party learned of MacDonell’s social media comments. The party issued a statement through riding association president John Bonn saying MacDonell was forced from her position.

“This morning, the Bay of Quinte Electoral District Association became aware that one of its board members had posted some inappropriate content on her personal social media site, in her personal capacity. Upon become aware of the content, the association required and accepted her resignation effective immediately,” said the statement. “The views expressed by the now former board member will not be tolerated and do not reflect those of the Bay of Quinte EDA.”

APTN National News contacted MacDonell Tuesday morning asking her to confirm her views.

“What about them?” said MacDonell.

MacDonell then hung up the phone after an APTN reporter read the comments she posted back to her.

“Sorry, not interested,” she said.

APTN also contacted Jenkins and asked him if he shared her views.

“I have no idea what you are talking about,” said Jenkins. “You are catching me completely off-guard.”

MacDonell describes herself as a former Toronto police sergeant on her Facebook page where she recently posted a photo of Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his wife Laureen, along with anti-immigration links referencing the rising migrant crisis in Europe.

Just recently, MacDonell posted a link from right-wing shock website The Rebel Media about Ash Callingbull, the Cree woman recently crowned Mrs. Universe. The article said Callingbull compared Harper to Hitler.

MacDonell wrote that Callingbull was an “entitled liberal pet” and a “monster.” After one poster said the pageant should take back the crown over the Hitler comparison, MacDonell blasted all First Nation people.

“From an Indian??? LOL!!!! They’re allowed to break every law we have and bankrupt the country,” wrote MacDonell.

http://aptn.ca/news/2015/09/08/conservative-director-booted-from-riding-board-over-comments-describing-indians-as-self-loathing/

Another one bites the dust. At this rate the Tories might as well be disbanded come Oct 19.

[thejazz97]

Back to the election....with this being the Social Media year, is anyone really surprised by the amount of negative news items?

http://aptn.ca/news/2015/09/08/conservative-director-booted-from-riding-board-over-comments-describing-indians-as-self-loathing/

I don't think I'm surprised by the amount of negative news items, but it's a bt surprising that it's all conservatives getting a bad rap in the media... maybe it shouldn't be surprising by now.

[RUPERTKBD]

I assume you're referring to the Bible? I would say neither are flawed, there's just a way they work in harmony that most, maybe all people haven't found yet.

I was. And I was referring to evolution vs creation in particular.

How do you suppose the two ideas can work in harmony?

[Hugor Hill]

The conservatives are showing their true colours.

[ForsbergTheGreat]

I was. And I was referring to evolution vs creation in particular.

How do you suppose the two ideas can work in harmony?

Wrong thread but comparing the bible to science really is apples and oranges and they don’t really have anything to do with each other. The goal of the bible is not to explain to entirety of creation, if it was there would be more than 2 chapters on it.

I think the problem is when people take the bible (both Christians and non-Christians) and expect it to be more than it really is. The bible is not an historical document, so comparing it against a theory on the history of the universe is about as effective as looking up a baking recipe in the phone book.

[thejazz97]

I was. And I was referring to evolution vs creation in particular.

How do you suppose the two ideas can work in harmony?

I subscribe to an idea called gap creationism. There's still bits that need figuring out, but it makes a fair bit of sense.

[thejazz97]

The conservatives are showing their true colours.

I doubt the Libs and NDP candidates are perfect, though.

[TOMapleLaughs]

I doubt the Libs and NDP candidates are perfect, though.

No they're not.

I actually dug into the backgrounds of a ton of candidates last night and for the Libs beyond weirdo Hedy Fry and floor-crossing schizo Eve Adams, there wasn't much to be concerned about.

As for NDP, they've stirred up the right a bit more frequently as the official opposition. Linda McQuaig made some anti-oil comment. Fin Donnelly said their immigration minister was essentially useless.

But compared to the collection of xenophobes, military industrial complex and oil patronage types, 'proud rednecks', and information control personnel that constitutes the current Conservative Party and controlled senate, they're pretty much golden.

That is, until the inevitable happens and there's some scandal or whatever to get mad about during term 3. Remember that crap about the Gomery Report? Jeez, pales in comparison to the outright ruining of our country since.

My only worry about the Libs is if they're anything like the BC Libs, then we're fracked. Literally.

[thejazz97]

No they're not.

I actually dug into the backgrounds of a ton of candidates last night and for the Libs beyond weirdo Hedy Fry and floor-crossing schizo Eve Adams, there wasn't much to be concerned about.

As for NDP, they've stirred up the right a bit more frequently as the official opposition. Linda McQuaig made some anti-oil comment. Fin Donnelly said their immigration minister was essentially useless.

But compared to the collection of xenophobes, military industrial complex and oil patronage types, 'proud rednecks', and information control personnel that constitutes the current Conservative Party and controlled senate, they're pretty much golden.

That is, until the inevitable happens and there's some scandal or whatever to get mad about during term 3. Remember that crap about the Gomery Report? Jeez, pales in comparison to the outright ruining of our country since.

Fair point. Cons need a shakeup.

My only worry about the Libs is if they're anything like the BC Libs, then we're fracked. Literally.

Same goes for the NDP (compared to NDP from the early 00s), if I'm not mistaken?

[aGENT]

This is true, for the most part. They vary slightly through each strain of belief in a higher power. It's very interesting though, that everyone has morals built into their DNA, regardless of religion.

And science is a tool, just like rulers are a tool to measure space, and clocks are a tool to measure time, science is a tool to explain what we see around us.

...and religion is a tool to control the meek and ignorant.

[thejazz97]

...and religion is a tool to control the meek and ignorant.

Very true.

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Apparently the NDP don't have people with the cleanest backgrounds, either.

TORONTO â A senior aide to New Democrat Leader Tom Mulcair apologized Tuesday after past tweets surfaced in which he took aim at the Roman Catholic church.

The two-year-old tweets by Shawn Dearn, hired in February as Mulcair's director of communications, were also directed at the Pope.

"Memo to CBC and all media," one of them reads. "Stop calling the misogynist, homophobic, child-molesting Catholic church a 'moral authority.' It's not."

However, in a tweet to his followers late Tuesday, Dearn apologized.

"Some tweets that pre-dated my current role were offensive and do not reflect my views," he said. "They are being deleted and I apologize sincerely."

It was not immediately clear how the past tweets resurfaced.

Within hours of the Twitterverse taking new note of the posts, Dearn made his Twitter account private and therefore inaccessible to most users.

Dearn took aim at Pope Benedict for saying Britain's human-rights policy on gay equality violated natural law. Dearn is married to a man.

The tweet used an offensive expletive in connection with the Pope.

"Go f--- yourself," he tweeted.

Dearn's past tweets sparked strong reaction on social media.

Mulcair said Wednesday he spoke with Dearn and he has no problem keeping him on staff.

"He has apologized for those views and I guess that's going to be part of the world that we're going to be living in now as people in social media said things over the years," Mulcair said while campaigning in Niagara Falls, Ont.

"He felt very bad about it and I'm more than willing to move on from that."

Party spokesman George Soule conceded the posts were offensive.

"Earlier tonight, a campaign staff person was reminded of tweets posted prior to taking his position," Soule said Tuesday.

"These tweets were inappropriate and offensive to many, and are being deleted."

The furor over the tweets came a day after the Conservatives dropped two candidates when past distasteful surfaced in videos â one for urinating in a homeowner's coffee mug and another for prank calling about Viagra and posing as a mentally disabled person.

Also Tuesday, the Tories' Bay of Quinte Electoral District Association fired a board member for posting offensive views.

Sue MacDonell had posted on Facebook that a Cree woman recently crowned Mrs. Universe was a monster and a "smug entitled Liberal pet."

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/mulcairs-communications-director-apologizes-past-anti-catholic-tweets-010302934.html

[aGENT]

My only worry about the Libs is if they're anything like the BC Libs, then we're fracked. Literally.

Provincial Libs are more akin to the Federal Cons.

Same goes for the NDP (compared to NDP from the early 00s), if I'm not mistaken?

Provincial NDP here in BC are a WORLD away from the federal NDP. The BC NDP in their current/recent form, are largely a cluster-frack of myopic idiots with their heads so far up their arses they can't see the very obvious reasons they can't beat a horrible Liberal party despite countless reasons for people to vote elsewhere.

[TOMapleLaughs]

Fair point. Cons need a shakeup.

Same goes for the NDP (compared to NDP from the early 00s), if I'm not mistaken?

My concern with the Libs is that a former BC Lib environment minister crossed over to the fed Lebs. The BC Libs have been downright awful with the environment, like the fed Cons.

[aGENT]

Very true.

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Apparently the NDP don't have people with the cleanest backgrounds, either.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/mulcairs-communications-director-apologizes-past-anti-catholic-tweets-010302934.html

Telling the truth (if a touch rudely) about the RCC is not much of a story. Notice he's not resigning nor does (or should) Mulcair have a problem with it.

If this is the best the Cons can dig up to try to take some of the heat off of their countless scandals with perverts, bigots etc never mind the Duffy scandal...