SekaniCanuck Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Hey ya'll this is my first post. Creeped on CDC for so long until I was finally able to make a post, so don't flame too hard. Would you guys do Vrbata-Prust and a 3rd(2017) to MTL for Juulsen and a 1st or 2nd(2016) Do you think they go for it or not? Your opinions would be appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 It would probably be a 2016 2nd but it looks ok to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Heck I would just do Verby for a first and 2nd round pick....Juulsen seems to be overrated on these boards because he is a local boy. Long term project, we already have a few of these kinds of d-men (subban, jasek, brisebrois) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Vbrata + 2nd for Juulsen maybe might be enough. That's going to be a high 2nd, around 30-40th overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 3 minutes ago, SaintPatrick33 said: Heck I would just do Verby for a first and 2nd round pick....Juulsen seems to be overrated on these boards because he is a local boy. Long term project, we already have a few of these kinds of d-men (subban, jasek, brisebrois) Juulsen is a Right handed shot thats why. He also has a hard shot which is something we are missing, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 The whole Vrbata for Juulsen thing has been suggested countless times on this board. It Doesn't work for Montreal for w number of reasons. 1) Montreal has roughly $2m in cap space and you're proposing sending them $7.5m worth of cap hit 2) they traded away Prust. He's not needed there at all. Their bottom 6 has been really strong this season. Prust adds nothing to the deal for them. 3) Juulsen is Montreal's only blue chop defensive prospect now that Beaulieu Pateryn and Tinordi have graduated 4) Has a team EVER traded away the player they selected in the first round the same season he was selected? Let alone for a rental? I haven't been able to find a single example of a team doing that Also , there's no way Montreal trades away last years first and this years first for a rental, a 4th line plug and a 3rd This deal just doesn't work for Montreal on any level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex425 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 1 hour ago, SaintPatrick33 said: Heck I would just do Verby for a first and 2nd round pick....Juulsen seems to be overrated on these boards because he is a local boy. Long term project, we already have a few of these kinds of d-men (subban, jasek, brisebrois) Jasek is a forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 58 minutes ago, qwijibo said: The whole Vrbata for Juulsen thing has been suggested countless times on this board. It Doesn't work for Montreal for w number of reasons. 1) Montreal has roughly $2m in cap space and you're proposing sending them $7.5m worth of cap hit 2) they traded away Prust. He's not needed there at all. Their bottom 6 has been really strong this season. Prust adds nothing to the deal for them. 3) Juulsen is Montreal's only blue chop defensive prospect now that Beaulieu Pateryn and Tinordi have graduated 4) Has a team EVER traded away the player they selected in the first round the same season he was selected? Let alone for a rental? I haven't been able to find a single example of a team doing that Also , there's no way Montreal trades away last years first and this years first for a rental, a 4th line plug and a 3rd This deal just doesn't work for Montreal on any level. Too bad for the Habs. What if we take back a contract? Vrby for Juulson and a dead weight contract? We could through in the Smurf Subban too. That works. It's easy! JB get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SekaniCanuck Posted December 25, 2015 Author Share Posted December 25, 2015 58 minutes ago, qwijibo said: The whole Vrbata for Juulsen thing has been suggested countless times on this board. It Doesn't work for Montreal for w number of reasons. 1) Montreal has roughly $2m in cap space and you're proposing sending them $7.5m worth of cap hit 2) they traded away Prust. He's not needed there at all. Their bottom 6 has been really strong this season. Prust adds nothing to the deal for them. 3) Juulsen is Montreal's only blue chop defensive prospect now that Beaulieu Pateryn and Tinordi have graduated 4) Has a team EVER traded away the player they selected in the first round the same season he was selected? Let alone for a rental? I haven't been able to find a single example of a team doing that Also , there's no way Montreal trades away last years first and this years first for a rental, a 4th line plug and a 3rd This deal just doesn't work for Montreal on any level. Hmmm very good points. Okay would you do perhaps Tanev/Edler-Vrbata-Gaunce to NYI for Hamonic-Nelson/Bailey? Maybe we throw in a pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 7 minutes ago, SekaniCanuck said: Hmmm very good points. Okay would you do perhaps Tanev/Edler-Vrbata-Gaunce to NYI for Hamonic-Nelson/Bailey? Maybe we throw in a pick? Tanev, Vrby, and Shink for Hamonic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SekaniCanuck Posted December 25, 2015 Author Share Posted December 25, 2015 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Tanev, Vrby, and Shink for Hamonic? I really wouldn't mind getting Nelson back though, big dude 6'3 205 I believe plus he's young what else can we throw in for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 12 minutes ago, SekaniCanuck said: I really wouldn't mind getting Nelson back though, big dude 6'3 205 I believe plus he's young what else can we throw in for him? Maybe the three guys mentioned is enough, or we could add that second we got in compensation for the idiots in CBJ signing Torts? I still can't believe we got a second from all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 16 minutes ago, SekaniCanuck said: I really wouldn't mind getting Nelson back though, big dude 6'3 205 I believe plus he's young what else can we throw in for him? Considering he's been on their 1st line with Tavares it's not going to happen. Everyone likes him, including the Islanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SekaniCanuck Posted December 25, 2015 Author Share Posted December 25, 2015 5 minutes ago, elvis15 said: Considering he's been on their 1st line with Tavares it's not going to happen. Everyone likes him, including the Islanders. What about Bailey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SekaniCanuck Posted December 25, 2015 Author Share Posted December 25, 2015 9 minutes ago, Alflives said: Maybe the three guys mentioned is enough, or we could add that second we got in compensation for the idiots in CBJ signing Torts? I still can't believe we got a second from all that. Torts the gift that keeps on giving haha. Also Ii don't know about that Nelson is very good. Would you want Bailey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 2 minutes ago, SekaniCanuck said: Torts the gift that keeps on giving haha. Also Ii don't know about that Nelson is very good. Would you want Bailey? Who's Bailey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SekaniCanuck Posted December 25, 2015 Author Share Posted December 25, 2015 27 minutes ago, Alflives said: Who's Bailey? Season Team GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW S S% 2004-2005 Clarington Toros AAA-Minor-ON 69 53 59 112 38 2005-2006 Owen Sound Attack-OHL 55 7 19 26 -2 8 3 0 2006-2007 Owen Sound Attack-OHL 27 11 15 26 -1 8 1 3 2006-207 Windsor Spitfires-OHL 42 11 24 35 -24 16 3 1 2007-2008 Windsor Spitfires-OHL 67 29 67 96 30 32 9 0 2008-2009 Islanders 68 7 18 25 -14 16 3 0 0 74 9.5 2009-2010 Islanders 73 16 19 35 5 18 3 1 2 112 14.3 2010-2011 Islanders 70 11 17 28 -13 37 5 0 2 102 10.8 2010-2011 Bridgeport Sound Tigers-AHL 11 6 11 17 5 4 3 1 1 25 24.0 2011-2012 Islanders 80 13 19 32 -10 32 1 3 1 104 12.5 2012-2013 Islanders 38 11 8 19 7 6 0 0 1 76 14.5 2012-2013 SC Bietigheim-Bissingen Steelers-German-2 6 3 8 11 16 2013-2014 Islanders 77 8 30 38 -8 26 2 0 1 98 8.2 2014-2015 Islanders 70 15 26 41 3 12 2 0 1 140 10.7 2015-2016 Islanders 34 7 10 17 2 12 3 0 0 54 13.0 Josh Bailey Right Wing - NYI (BAY-lee) Video › Number: 12 Height: 6' 1" Weight: 210 Shoots: Left Born: Oct 2, 1989 (Age 26) Birthplace: Bowmanville, ON, Canada Drafted: NYI / 2008 NHL Entry Draft Round: 1st (9th overall) PROSPECT BIO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 18 minutes ago, SekaniCanuck said: Season Team GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW S S% 2004-2005 Clarington Toros AAA-Minor-ON 69 53 59 112 38 2005-2006 Owen Sound Attack-OHL 55 7 19 26 -2 8 3 0 2006-2007 Owen Sound Attack-OHL 27 11 15 26 -1 8 1 3 2006-207 Windsor Spitfires-OHL 42 11 24 35 -24 16 3 1 2007-2008 Windsor Spitfires-OHL 67 29 67 96 30 32 9 0 2008-2009 Islanders 68 7 18 25 -14 16 3 0 0 74 9.5 2009-2010 Islanders 73 16 19 35 5 18 3 1 2 112 14.3 2010-2011 Islanders 70 11 17 28 -13 37 5 0 2 102 10.8 2010-2011 Bridgeport Sound Tigers-AHL 11 6 11 17 5 4 3 1 1 25 24.0 2011-2012 Islanders 80 13 19 32 -10 32 1 3 1 104 12.5 2012-2013 Islanders 38 11 8 19 7 6 0 0 1 76 14.5 2012-2013 SC Bietigheim-Bissingen Steelers-German-2 6 3 8 11 16 2013-2014 Islanders 77 8 30 38 -8 26 2 0 1 98 8.2 2014-2015 Islanders 70 15 26 41 3 12 2 0 1 140 10.7 2015-2016 Islanders 34 7 10 17 2 12 3 0 0 54 13.0 Josh Bailey Right Wing - NYI (BAY-lee) Video › Number: 12 Height: 6' 1" Weight: 210 Shoots: Left Born: Oct 2, 1989 (Age 26) Birthplace: Bowmanville, ON, Canada Drafted: NYI / 2008 NHL Entry Draft Round: 1st (9th overall) PROSPECT BIO Thanks for the information. Would his contract be a throw in, to help balance Cap dollars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SekaniCanuck Posted December 25, 2015 Author Share Posted December 25, 2015 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Thanks for the information. Would his contract be a throw in, to help balance Cap dollars? I was thinking some more secondary scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 3 minutes ago, SekaniCanuck said: I was thinking some more secondary scoring. Oh. I would take him if we had to in order to get Hamonic, but I would insist they take Higgins.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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