stawns Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, ohmy said: I don't think Hertl is a center either but I'd take Deniros deal absolutely. We'd have to retain salary this year but they can work that out. Dillon being a local boy and a 2nd in the draft would be great. If JB pulled off a Miller for Dillon deal, that would be sweet. He may excel at any one thing, but he's got a mean streak in him. The Canucks need that on D desperately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, mpt said: Marleau isn't waiving his NTC for Vancouver, no one is taking on Miller's contract for next year. One year from now, Miller might be traded but not now To be honest, I don't think you're wrong. If he wants out he'll have to either broaden his options, or resign to finishing out his contract where he is. If San Jose wants a goalie for any playoff run, there may be cheaper $ options, but Miller has been playing pretty good this year and could be had for a relatively low return. Hence, traded for another contract. Again, I wouldn't be a fan of the move, but stranger things have happened. I've really enjoyed Miller being here as it allowed Markstrom to develop at his own pace. If he left, I wouldn't be too worried about it. Easier to find a backup than a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 9 minutes ago, Teemu Selänne said: Doubt SJ moves Hertl for an old player like Miller or Hamhuis. Saying that, he is a RFA-to-be, so if contract negotations have gone south you never know... Hertl is a C who plays W mostly and can be a 40-50 point player at the NHL level. Plus he's decently sized, can play a 200 foot game and is 22. But honestly, wouldn't SJ rather have Hertl than Miller for a playoff run? Even if negotations are going poorly, they keep his rights and can move him in the off season. You can confidently swap doubt with never bloody happen in the history of the world and be entirely correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Yeah, maybe this is for a player or two on San Jose. It's more than likely though that they are there because we play them 3 FREAKING TIMES next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Green Building said: You can confidently swap doubt with never bloody happen in the history of the world and be entirely correct. Hahaha. Sometimes I think like that then I remember trades like Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat or Alek Stojanov for Markus Naslund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Toe Drag Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 9 minutes ago, Teemu Selänne said: Haha true. Hammer & Miller 50% retained for Hertl, Jeremy Roy and Stalock. It's possible... I'm a big fan of Hertl, so I would love that. Love Jeremy Roy, I wanted him last draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnorth Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Green Building said: You can confidently swap doubt with never bloody happen in the history of the world and be entirely correct. Erat for Forsberg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueberries Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 What is wrong with Benning only trading within the division only. Does Benning not have the number of other GMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Noseforthenet said: Yeah, maybe this is for a player or two on San Jose. It's more than likely though that they are there because we play them 3 FREAKING TIMES next week. If they still think playoffs are happening they're crazy. If they're scouting ways to lose against San Jose, they don't need to worry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, Green Building said: To be honest, I don't think you're wrong. If he wants out he'll have to either broaden his options, or resign to finishing out his contract where he is. If San Jose wants a goalie for any playoff run, there may be cheaper $ options, but Miller has been playing pretty good this year and could be had for a relatively low return. Hence, traded for another contract. Again, I wouldn't be a fan of the move, but stranger things have happened. I've really enjoyed Miller being here as it allowed Markstrom to develop at his own pace. If he left, I wouldn't be too worried about it. Easier to find a backup than a starter. Well... I think you already know what I've been saying this last week. Stranger things have happened, indeed. It's clear that we would either need to take back a serious salary or retain the maximum on Miller... maybe both. I think there's some real fire near this smoke though... I've been clear on that. It's a domino from moving Hammer. One begets the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hortankin Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, Noseforthenet said: Yeah, maybe this is for a player or two on San Jose. It's more than likely though that they are there because we play them 3 FREAKING TIMES next week. Keep Vrbata and Hamhuis and scoutt the Sharks. That way we can get 6pts to help us make the playoffs and get the owners 2-3 games of playoff revenue. Ya it sure sounds like Benning. I think your on to something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Blueberries said: What is wrong with Benning only trading within the division only. Does Benning not have the number of other GMs. Just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Here's a real cascade of moves... - We deal Vrbata for a 2nd and/or B prospect - We deal Burrows for a depth player in the 25 yo range and maybe a mid round pick - We deal Bart for a low pick The then crescendo... Hammer(with a two year extension) + Miller(50% retained for both years) for Marleau, Stalock ++ (Goldobin?) Lose every game to SJ... get a top 5 placement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, theminister said: Well... I think you already know what I've been saying this last week. Stranger things have happened, indeed. It's clear that we would either need to take back a serious salary or retain the maximum on Miller... maybe both. I think there's some real fire near this smoke though... I've been clear on that. It's a domino from moving Hammer. One begets the other. You are certainly the one who got me pondering the possibility, and I still don't like it. Cap-wise it makes sense, but that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmy Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 13 minutes ago, stawns said: If JB pulled off a Miller for Dillon deal, that would be sweet. He may excel at any one thing, but he's got a mean streak in him. The Canucks need that on D desperately. You got that right stawns. Too many please get out of my goalies crease and not enough back off mother f****r! Only time I saw that this year was when Pedan was in the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 11 minutes ago, Noseforthenet said: Yeah, maybe this is for a player or two on San Jose. It's more than likely though that they are there because we play them 3 FREAKING TIMES next week. Likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, Teemu Selänne said: Just sayin' Shhhhh..... facts can be inconvenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Just now, theminister said: Shhhhh..... facts can be inconvenient. Keep forgetting, keep forgetting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Green Building said: You are certainly the one who got me pondering the possibility, and I still don't like it. Cap-wise it makes sense, but that's about it. Hey, man... I don't make the fortunes... I just read the leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeny Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 minute ago, theminister said: Here's a real cascade of moves... - We deal Vrbata for a 2nd and/or B prospect - We deal Burrows for a depth player in the 25 yo range and maybe a mid round pick - We deal Bart for a low pick The then crescendo... Hammer(with a two year extension) + Miller(50% retained for both years) for both years for Marleau, Stalock ++ Lose very game to SJ... get a top 5 placement. Haha how i would love all these deals to come to fruition... But no way Hammer wants only a 2 year extension. Likely on his last contract and will want close to max term. Also, Marleau isn't going anywhere unless he decides to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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