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Detached home sales at 27 year low:

 

http://vancitycondoguide.com/vancouver-home-sales-27-year-low-march/

 

I was talking to a real estate lawyer friend of mine and my investment advisor. Both think that its about to get really bad. Most people had approval under the old mortgage rules, which masked a lot of the die off in demand. If sales are already at a 27 year low, they'll likely only dip further. 

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1 hour ago, taxi said:

Detached home sales at 27 year low:

 

http://vancitycondoguide.com/vancouver-home-sales-27-year-low-march/

 

I was talking to a real estate lawyer friend of mine and my investment advisor. Both think that its about to get really bad. Most people had approval under the old mortgage rules, which masked a lot of the die off in demand. If sales are already at a 27 year low, they'll likely only dip further. 

BC real estate is about to crash.  Definately not the time to be a buyer.  Wait a year and get  30 % off.

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On 2018-03-15 at 3:45 PM, kingofsurrey said:

Time to SELL,  SELL , and SELL

 

 

 

Get out of the real estate market immediately.....    BC housing prices  are about to TANK faster than the canuck team after 2011 

 

http://theprovince.com/business/home-sales-plummet-16-9-as-average-price-drops-5-led-by-vancouver-toronto/wcm/a565539c-d3b1-4da0-830d-add6411e2c69

Real estate tanks the economy of BC will be right behind it.

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13 minutes ago, Violator said:

Real estate tanks the economy of BC will be right behind it.

I hope so.

 

Young kids in BC have no future the way it is right now.   Cheaper housing is the only way forward.  Let it crash. 

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20 minutes ago, Violator said:

Real estate tanks the economy of BC will be right behind it.

Things are already bad. Businesses can't stay open. The ones that are surviving can't find competent staff, as no one on a low wage can afford to live in Vancouver. People are having to forgo families. Children being raised by "middle class" families in studio apartments. Do you really think things can go forward like this? And who exactly is benefiting from this "boom"?

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28 minutes ago, taxi said:

Things are already bad. Businesses can't stay open. The ones that are surviving can't find competent staff, as no one on a low wage can afford to live in Vancouver. People are having to forgo families. Children being raised by "middle class" families in studio apartments. Do you really think things can go forward like this? And who exactly is benefiting from this "boom"?

Just as i move back in five months.The staff problem is from narrowminded businesses that dont realize you gotta pay more and treat people better than usual.

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15 minutes ago, Violator said:

Just as i move back in five months.The staff problem is from narrowminded businesses that dont realize you gotta pay more and treat people better than usual.

A lot of businesses just can't afford to pay more. When rents and property prices double in five years, it puts a strain on everybody. I don't know where you get this idea that all business owners are fat cuts sitting in piles of cash they refuse to share. Most businesses in Vancouver are barely getting by. Look at how many restaurants are closing. Even the ones that are open are understaffed as it is.

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53 minutes ago, taxi said:

Things are already bad. Businesses can't stay open. The ones that are surviving can't find competent staff, as no one on a low wage can afford to live in Vancouver. People are having to forgo families. Children being raised by "middle class" families in studio apartments. Do you really think things can go forward like this? And who exactly is benefiting from this "boom"?

Young couples are having to choose rent/food  over  having kids.   Can't afford to start a family when you are struggling to pay rent  / utilities.

Cost of daycare are sick in Vancouver  averages    1500.00 per month...        Quebec daycare costs 150 per month.

 

BC is screwed.  Young people are fleeing the province. 

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2 hours ago, taxi said:

A lot of businesses just can't afford to pay more. When rents and property prices double in five years, it puts a strain on everybody. I don't know where you get this idea that all business owners are fat cuts sitting in piles of cash they refuse to share. Most businesses in Vancouver are barely getting by. Look at how many restaurants are closing. Even the ones that are open are understaffed as it is.

No ive lived and worked in bc for most of my life this is they way employers have been for a long time.its bitting them in the ass now and its good to hear.

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12 hours ago, taxi said:

Things are already bad. Businesses can't stay open. The ones that are surviving can't find competent staff, as no one on a low wage can afford to live in Vancouver. People are having to forgo families. Children being raised by "middle class" families in studio apartments. Do you really think things can go forward like this? And who exactly is benefiting from this "boom"?

Well I can assure you.

 

It's no the Clark Liberals anymore ;)

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Time to SELL SELL SELL.  Market in lower mainland is about to tank....

Toronto home prices see biggest drop in almost 30 years

March sales down 40% from a year ago, the lowest since 2009

The high-end of Toronto’s housing market is bearing the brunt of declines from last year’s dizzying growth, with prices falling and unit sales slumping by almost half.

Sales of detached homes in and around Canada’s biggest city fell 46 per cent in March from the same month a year ago, while the average price fell 17 per cent to $1.01 million, according to data released Wednesday by the Toronto Real Estate Board. That dragged down the average selling prices for all housing types by 14 per cent from a year earlier to $784,558, the biggest drop since 1991.

 

 

Metro Vancouver home sales down nearly 30 per cent in March

Home sales were down nearly 30 per cent in March in Metro Vancouver, as the region marked its lowest first-quarter sales in five years.

The Real Estate Board of Greater Vancouver says home sales in the region totalled 2,517 in March 2018, a 29.7 per cent decrease from the 3,579 sales recorded in the same month last year.

The board says last month’s sales were 23 per cent below the 10-year March sales average.

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Just read this article and have serious questions about how people view their home equity or at least how economists view home wealth

 

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/van-realestate-april-2018-figures-1.4603948

 

People hoping for Vancouver's housing bubble to burst could find reasons to be optimistic today. 

Monthly real estate figures for the Lower Mainland will be released for every municipality, with predictions of significant drops in total sales compared to a year ago. 

 "When we look across most markets in B.C. over the first quarter of this year, sales are down," said Cameron Muir, chief economist at the British Columbia Real Estate Association. 

Real estate agent and industry blogger Steve Saretsky says the drop is largely due to new mortgage stress test rules, but the cumulative effect of interest rate hikes and new housing taxesby the government are also playing a role.  

"Prices can't rise by 30 per cent on an annual basis forever. The greatest price gains are behind us, and you're starting to witness the slowdown," he said. 

"All those new policies coming into effect, I don't think, are bullish for real estate in the short term."

Muir and Saretsky say industry data shows median prices for detached homes in Vancouver and surrounding municipalities are dropping slightly — but that relief won't extend to the condo market, where the benchmark price of an average unit has increased by 31.1 per cent over the last year, to $641,800.    

"I still expect prices to rise in most product types, and that's largely a result of a lack of supply. We're still sitting at 10-year lows," said Muir.

Effect of a slowdown?

An extremely robust housing market has greatly contributed to B.C.'s economy in recent years, with the real estate, rental and leasing sectors accounting for 18.4 per cent of the province's GDP in 2016, according to Statistics Canada.

"There's no question that a slowing housing market could result in a slower economy. Does that lead to a recession eventually?" asked Saretsky.

Last week, Muir published an analysis attempting to predict that possibility. The report estimated that a 35 per cent decline in average home prices would result in a recession, with GDP growth falling to negative 0.5 per cent within a year.

Unemployment, meanwhile, would rise from 4.9  to 7.5 per cent. 

"Nearly 70 per cent of British Columbia households own their home. A relatively minor 10 per cent negative shock to home prices would extinguish $90 billion of their wealth, or $70,000 of the average home owner's equity," according to Muir's report.

"While some may see this as a paper loss, it will have a significant impact on the economy, as declining household wealth reins in consumer spending."

 

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See here's the confusing part. If people are living in their homes...they're not really losing anything. If they've lived in their homes for a decade, then they've seen the value of their home in some cases almost triple or even quadruple in the last 15 years. So a loss of 70,000 when weighed against a 4 fold increase is really not hard to stomach. 

A person who purchased a home/condo in the lower mainland for the $330,000 average over a decade ago now seeing their assessed value at over $700,000 per condo and $900,000 per home is not going to worry much about a measly $70,000 

The more worrisome part is how the hell the previous government allowed home sales to become almost 20% of the entire GDP of the province and claimed the economy was "healthy"

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1 hour ago, bishopshodan said:

Vancouver housing market expected to continue boom into 2018

https://www.bnn.ca/real-estate/video/vancouver-housing-market-expected-to-continue-boom-into-2018~852539

 

I don't think it is quite time to sell if you own a condo in Vancouver. 

 

 

 

 

Smart money is now selling in Vancouver.  Ahead of the collapse. 

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17 hours ago, kingofsurrey said:

Young couples are having to choose rent/food  over  having kids.   Can't afford to start a family when you are struggling to pay rent  / utilities.

Cost of daycare are sick in Vancouver  averages    1500.00 per month...        Quebec daycare costs 150 per month.

 

BC is screwed.  Young people are fleeing the province. 

BC is not screwed. It’s the what teeny-tiny area in the southwest that is. The area that’s less than .5 of a % of area. 

 

 The mining and forestry and oil patch and farming areas of this wonderful province are okay. 

 

 I bought my house last year for less than 250,000 and it’s a 5 bedroom, 3400sq ft home on an acre :).  And this is kind of the average across this wonderful and vast province, but it’s only available to those who are brave enough to venture outside of the lower mainland.

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2 hours ago, bishopshodan said:

Vancouver housing market expected to continue boom into 2018

https://www.bnn.ca/real-estate/video/vancouver-housing-market-expected-to-continue-boom-into-2018~852539

 

I don't think it is quite time to sell if you own a condo in Vancouver. 

 

 

 

 

We'll have a serious warning sign.  You'll see "empty homes" being sold en masse due to warnings from agents and developers who are trying to cash in on their investments before we'll see the average owner trying to sell.

 

Happened in the US in 2008 where major banks were doing everything they could to divest themselves of those toxic portfolios before the inevitable happened.

 

They'll always know before the average person

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5 hours ago, Warhippy said:

Just read this article and have serious questions about how people view their home equity or at least how economists view home wealth

 

How do I view my home equity?  Short answer, as long as I owe less than what my townhouse is worth....I don't.

My wife and I bought a townhouse in Langley in 2011 for $400K.  We could probably sell it for around 700K.  I don't see myself as rich because if we were to sell, we'd be buying into the same insane market.  So, that 300K rise in value is worthless because to cash in on it would mean my family is homeless.

 

If anything I'd like prices to go back to that 2011 level because then there would be hope to buy a house in our neighbourhood.  Houses now cost over a million here so unless we want to add on another 300K to our mortage, it ain't happening.

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3 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

We'll have a serious warning sign.  You'll see "empty homes" being sold en masse due to warnings from agents and developers who are trying to cash in on their investments before we'll see the average owner trying to sell.

 

Happened in the US in 2008 where major banks were doing everything they could to divest themselves of those toxic portfolios before the inevitable happened.

 

They'll always know before the average person

Smart investors are liquidating vancouver / lower mainland housing assets now.   The bubble has burst. 

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I will sell next year.

For more than I could this year.

 

 

I'm just not afraid. Van condos still have a serious inventory issue. They need to lift the wait time on development apps and even if the do...it will take years to catch up.

 

 

 

 

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We have no idea where this money has been made apparently drugs and human trafficing pay well but Canadians frown on that type of thing,

so being able to launder their money here is giving the wrong message to corrupt people.Just because they are wealthy doesn't mean they are morally sound.

We have a president in the country right next to us that seems pretty shady as well.Morals and ethics of some of the worlds riches people leaves real people wondering why these people are not the ones in prisons.For instance.the Big Banks or Big Pharma types that have given North America a crisis in drug dependency and I have never heard any of them willing to help with the mess they started.

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY AND NOT WHAT WILL HELP THE PEOPLE.

TIME TO HELP THE PEOPLE,NO MORE EXCUSES

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