cyoung Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said: Tank for Dahlin, win the cup 2 years later. That should be the plan lol Not how it works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ReggieBush Posted October 27, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2017 6 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Here's a screenshot of the current all-time SHL U20 points per game: That is some ELITE company 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 38 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said: Tank for Dahlin, win the cup 2 years later. That should be the plan lol If only it were that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canuckistani Posted October 27, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2017 2 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: Well....Arizona worked their "stealth" tank on NO goalie this year, and the year that Tampa got Stamkos, they dropped a zillion points from the year before.......Toronto traded a lot of players, and built from the ground up.....there are plenty of examples of "Tanking" What you are calling tanking, i call it 'things not working out'. Arizona won't be the first or the last team to horribly overrate their goaltender. 2 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: I don't advocate, a complete tear down, but moving 2 of Edler, Baertschi, Del Zotto, Sutter, Markstrom, Dorsett plus Vanek, will open spots and gives us picks. It is not a sin! Yes, yes it is. Because Edmonton for last six years (except the last year) and Arizona for the last two years should show what a disaster it is, to have a team full of all kids. This is not the 1980s. Make a team full of young talent = you end up breaking most of the talent. A proper rebuild, is how we are doing it. Good mix of vets and juniors, nobody is being rushed. 2 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: As for the "Fraud" comment...........it is not fraud....where the hell did you come up with that one? But to get back on point.............Pettersson sure had a great game! Don't you think! To deliberately underperform, in your profession, is fraud. You simply cant say you want players with good character, who displays the lowest character trait of a profession- to deliberately underperform. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I think I can say without reason that Pettersson will not only be better than McDavid, but is better than McDavid in this present moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Hopefully, he can keep up his play and gets an opportunity at C. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gaudette Celly Posted October 27, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2017 Canuck fan who went to the game today; his feedback and pictures, including talks with EP: https://www.reddit.com/r/canucks/comments/78y7qq/is_this_real_life/ 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gaudette Celly Posted October 27, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2017 Don't know if this pre-draft article was ever posted here, but this Leafs writer had some pretty interesting stuff to say about EP: https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2017/5/28/15706426/elias-pettersson-and-the-myth-of-the-two-horse-race Spoiler And while any one of these players could go on to have the better career, there is one player who is undoubtedly, without question the best player in this draft. A superstar. A near generational talent. Ladies and gentlemen...I present to you...Elias Pettersson... Elias Pettersson didn’t just set the all-time scoring record for Allsvenskan, Sweden’s 2nd tier men’s league behind the SHL, among draft eligibles. He *obliterated* the next closest draft eligible season (which belonged to our very own William Nylander, who himself had dethroned Alex Wennberg) by 23%. That’s a LOT... I’m not sure how to explain that except for Pettersson is a generational talent... Elias Pettersson: approximately 87.99 points per 82 games at peak.. So with all the talk of this draft being a two horse race between Patrick and Hischier...in my humble opinion, it’s a one horse race. And that horse’s name...is Elias Pettersson. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Don't know if this pre-draft article was ever posted here, but this Leafs writer had some pretty interesting stuff to say about EP: https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2017/5/28/15706426/elias-pettersson-and-the-myth-of-the-two-horse-race Reveal hidden contents And while any one of these players could go on to have the better career, there is one player who is undoubtedly, without question the best player in this draft. A superstar. A near generational talent. Ladies and gentlemen...I present to you...Elias Pettersson... Elias Pettersson didn’t just set the all-time scoring record for Allsvenskan, Sweden’s 2nd tier men’s league behind the SHL, among draft eligibles. He *obliterated* the next closest draft eligible season (which belonged to our very own William Nylander, who himself had dethroned Alex Wennberg) by 23%. That’s a LOT... I’m not sure how to explain that except for Pettersson is a generational talent... Elias Pettersson: approximately 87.99 points per 82 games at peak.. So with all the talk of this draft being a two horse race between Patrick and Hischier...in my humble opinion, it’s a one horse race. And that horse’s name...is Elias Pettersson. Here's a gallery from that same guy https://imgur.com/a/IE3Fc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyoNami Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 9 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: Here's a gallery from that same guy https://imgur.com/a/IE3Fc What a nice guy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 5 hours ago, ReggieBush said: That is some ELITE company Forsberg compassions... no pressure kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adarsh Sant Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 A 32 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Don't know if this pre-draft article was ever posted here, but this Leafs writer had some pretty interesting stuff to say about EP: https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2017/5/28/15706426/elias-pettersson-and-the-myth-of-the-two-horse-race Reveal hidden contents And while any one of these players could go on to have the better career, there is one player who is undoubtedly, without question the best player in this draft. A superstar. A near generational talent. Ladies and gentlemen...I present to you...Elias Pettersson... Elias Pettersson didn’t just set the all-time scoring record for Allsvenskan, Sweden’s 2nd tier men’s league behind the SHL, among draft eligibles. He *obliterated* the next closest draft eligible season (which belonged to our very own William Nylander, who himself had dethroned Alex Wennberg) by 23%. That’s a LOT... I’m not sure how to explain that except for Pettersson is a generational talent... Elias Pettersson: approximately 87.99 points per 82 games at peak.. So with all the talk of this draft being a two horse race between Patrick and Hischier...in my humble opinion, it’s a one horse race. And that horse’s name...is Elias Pettersson. A number of scouts said if he was 20 pounds heavier, he would have gone #1 overall. Which is stupid thinking, because weight can be gained. Skill cannot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, KyoNami said: What a nice guy! no kidding, nice to see such a great attitude from EP Edited October 27, 2017 by Jimmy McGill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowichan Canuck Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, canuckistani said: To deliberately underperform, in your profession, is fraud. You simply cant say you want players with good character, who displays the lowest character trait of a profession- to deliberately underperform. I don't think anyone expects this out of an NHL player. Management would make decisions to bring up kids, play the back-up more, tell some vets to rest their injuries etc. All amounting to a higher chance of not winning (better draft odds) and giving your prospects a taste. Look what it did for Brock last year. Its win win if the playoffs are out of reach...how is this ever even disputable? Edited October 27, 2017 by Cowichan Canuck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckistani Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Just now, Cowichan Canuck said: I don't think anyone expects this out of an NHL player. Management would make decisions to bring up kids, play the back-up more, tell some vets to rest their injuries etc. All amounting to a higher chance of not winning and giving your prospects a taste. Its win win if the playoffs are out of reach...how is this ever even disputable? There is nothing wrong with giving kids a little bit of exposure once you miss the playoffs. But you still can't take out performing players- vets or otherwise- out of the lineup and be held credible. Your players won't play well for you, will create dressing room politics, friction etc. the moment you shy away from professional meritocracy enough to raise serious ethical eyebrows. Sure, a little bit of straying, for future talent development sake, is ok. But bench a guy who is closing in 50 points, so your team can tank for a better draft pick ? Nothing could be as damaging to a player's confidence and trust. As i said, this is not NHL2016. Its real life. You cant pick and choose when to be a sleaze ball cheater and when to be an organization with integrity. You are either one or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowichan Canuck Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, canuckistani said: There is nothing wrong with giving kids a little bit of exposure once you miss the playoffs. But you still can't take out performing players- vets or otherwise- out of the lineup and be held credible. Your players won't play well for you, will create dressing room politics, friction etc. the moment you shy away from professional meritocracy enough to raise serious ethical eyebrows. Sure, a little bit of straying, for future talent development sake, is ok. But bench a guy who is closing in 50 points, so your team can tank for a better draft pick ? Nothing could be as damaging to a player's confidence and trust. As i said, this is not NHL2016. Its real life. You cant pick and choose when to be a sleaze ball cheater and when to be an organization with integrity. You are either one or the other. I think those sleeze bag teams with mcdavid and Matthews have moved on. I dont think the NHL works in such black and whites no matter what we think is "right" its a business, businesses work on odds, run by humans that have various levels of integrities. Id like to add that I agree not trying is poor integrity, and benching healthy star players. Edited October 27, 2017 by Cowichan Canuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 25 minutes ago, Cowichan Canuck said: I don't think anyone expects this out of an NHL player. Management would make decisions to bring up kids, play the back-up more, tell some vets to rest their injuries etc. All amounting to a higher chance of not winning (better draft odds) and giving your prospects a taste. Look what it did for Brock last year. Its win win if the playoffs are out of reach...how is this ever even disputable? Canucks have plenty of opportunities for young players. I mean they signed a guy from the 15th best league in the world (Shore) and gave him more games then some top 10 picks would get on other teams. If we had someone who was ready for the NHL, they would get a chance with the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckistani Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 20 minutes ago, Cowichan Canuck said: I think those sleeze bag teams with mcdavid and Matthews have moved on. I dont think the NHL works in such black and whites no matter what we think is "right" its a business, businesses work on odds, run by humans that have various levels of integrities. Id like to add that I agree not trying is poor integrity, and benching healthy star players. Which is why no team tries to tank unless they are literally dismal and are runaway the bottom of the barrel. Because its a tough job, balancing the exposure given to kids and keeping the vets motivated, invested and trusting in the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dank.sinatra Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 generational.... we finally got one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRIMO88 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said: Here's a gallery from that same guy https://imgur.com/a/IE3Fc Ya it's definitely looking like EP is going to have to put on juuust a bit of muscle judging by that pic of then posing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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