manroth19 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 First off, I think the Canucks are closer to compete then most and I think making the playoffs or coming close would be better for the rebuild then another high pick. ROR Juolevi + Sutter sign Jay Beagle Maybe it’s an overpayment, maybe it’s underpayment (flame away) but I think he’s a great fit. Baer Horvat Boeser EP ROR Virtanen Louie Beagle Granny leipsic Gaudette Gagner Edler Guddy Hughes Tanev MDZ Stetcher This might not be a Stanley Cup roster but it should be able to make some noise in the pacific division. The trade of course goes against the grain of the rebuild but ROR is only 27 and it would create more of a winning environment for the kids on the team now. Buffalos perspective OJ can slot into their future top 4 with Dahlin and Risto while in the short term Sutter can take some tough minutes away from eichel and Reinhardt/mittelstadt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I would love to get ROR, but I'm not sure Juolevi and Sutter would get it done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 1 minute ago, NUCKER67 said: I would love to get ROR, but I'm not sure Juolevi and Sutter would get it done? Pass anyway, dont like his cap or term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 O'Reilly is an interesting name. He'd be great for 2-3 years to insulate Pettersson so he doesn't NEED to become a top 6 center really quickly. But at what, 5 years? I think that doesn't really fit unless it's clear that Pettersson is better served on the wing. Not to mention I have no idea what Buffalo would want. Juolevi and Sutter might be a good start but I am pretty sure they'd want more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 According to reports, pre-July 1st ROR's price is a 1st, 2nd, and a good prospect. Post July 1st, after he's paid a $7.5 Million bonus, the price goes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 9 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: According to reports, pre-July 1st ROR's price is a 1st, 2nd, and a good prospect. Post July 1st, after he's paid a $7.5 Million bonus, the price goes up. Shades of Tim Murray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 1 hour ago, NUCKER67 said: I would love to get ROR, but I'm not sure Juolevi and Sutter would get it done? if i'm buffalo, i'm asking for boeser, plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 13 minutes ago, vinny_in_vancouver said: Shades of Tim Murray! No, Tim Murray gave away players that the Sabres owned and overpaid for the ones he got. Botterill is doing the exact opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 34 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: According to reports, pre-July 1st ROR's price is a 1st, 2nd, and a good prospect. Post July 1st, after he's paid a $7.5 Million bonus, the price goes up. "Good prospect" being like a Lind or a Woo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, smithers joe said: if i'm buffalo, i'm asking for boeser, plus. They are. The Sabres are in a no lose situation with ROR. If nobody ponies up the cost and he stays, great. If he goes before July 1st, they get a very good return and save $7.5 million in this year's bonuses. If he goes post July 1, they get even more for him than the current asking price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 The problem is finding an adequate #2C who is willing to sign a short term deal (2 years max). ROR will want term and would be very expensive to acquire. I think to do a deal, the Canucks would have to trade Horvat+ for him. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 9 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: No, Tim Murray gave away players that the Sabres owned and overpaid for the ones he got. Botterill is doing the exact opposite. Evander Kane? Robin Lehner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Just now, N7Nucks said: "Good prospect" being like a Lind or a Woo? No idea, the report just said, "good prospect". My guess on the wording "good" probably means, just slightly below blue chip. In other words a prospect who has a 2nd line or middle pairing ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, vinny_in_vancouver said: Evander Kane? Robin Lehner? Murray paid a 1st round pick for Ottawa's 3rd position goalie in Lehner. Botterill got a very good return for Kane who turned out to be an organizational headache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: No idea, the report just said, "good prospect". My guess on the wording "good" probably means, just slightly below blue chip. In other words a prospect who has a 2nd line or middle pairing ceiling. I see, I see. Not too steep a price. Unless you are a lottery team like us (Vancouver). That first could be Hughes. There's no really telling how good O'Reilly would make us. Either way the gamble would be too scary for my blood. Could be a Colorado/Ottawa situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Uh before we think about upgrading upfront, you might want to look at the blueline. Why deal one of the few legit D prospects we have? Have to think about the "long game". Benning didn't inherit what Gillis inherited. Guys like Edler & Tanev aren't going to be around forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 1 minute ago, N7Nucks said: I see, I see. Not too steep a price. Unless you are a lottery team like us (Vancouver). That first could be Hughes. There's no really telling how good O'Reilly would make us. Either way the gamble would be too scary for my blood. Could be a Colorado/Ottawa situation. Anything that the Sabres are willing to trade is too costly right now for the Canucks. That's why these proposals are foolish. The Canucks are in no position to trade for top available players from any team. Spare parts and 3rd round picks won't cut it in the big trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 17 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: Anything that the Sabres are willing to trade is too costly right now for the Canucks. That's why these proposals are foolish. The Canucks are in no position to trade for top available players from any team. Spare parts and 3rd round picks won't cut it in the big trades. I dunno man. Ben Hutton. Granlund. 2 months of Tanev. How can any team say no to some of those premium pieces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNucks1 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 i'd prefer just to keep our young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 No thanks to trading Juolevi at this point, could still be a big-minute smooth D-man for the future. Rather keep him so we're not putting all our hopes in Hughes on left D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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