[Discussion] Turris for Eriksson/Sutter Deal?

[86Viking]

Kyle Turris has regressed quite a bit and now Nashville is stacked at C with Johansen, Duchene and BoninoBoninoBonino!

 

Would it be worth us to take on his contract if we were able to send Eriksson/Sutter the other way?

 

Kyle Turris 6m cap hit until 2023-24 when he will be 34

 

for

 

Loui Eriksson 6m cap hit until 2021/22 when he will be 36

 

Canucks take on 2 more years of contract for the better player, albeit dimished stats. So do we have to add something like a Goldy to the deal and or can we get Nashville to retain a bit of salary?

 

Or do we try:

 

Turris 6m with retention or add a 2020 2nd round pick (they have 2)

 

for

 

Sutter 4.375m till 2020/21 32yr old at end of deal

 

Either way I thought of this idea where we add out a higher paid kind of redundant or useless player for a player who has fallen in the depth charts in Nashville and he happens to be a New West kid. Turris has 0 NTC also, so we could flip him or expose him to Seattle when the expansion draft occurs.

Edited October 7, 2019 by Canuckster86

[BrockBoester]

Bonino Bonino Bonino

 

Also, no thanks to KT

Edited October 7, 2019 by BrockBoester

[mll]

Turris has actually looked good this season and Poile was talking about how they finally have 3 scoring lines with Johansen-Duchene-Turris in the middle.  They'll probably use his line to break in their prospects later in the season.  

With Nashville wanting skills, speed and 3 scoring lines - it doesn't seem like Sutter or Eriksson would be a fit as they already have players for those roles.  Bonino has the same role as Sutter - with his line significantly outscoring opponents at 5v5 - he ended the season a +27.

 

Edited October 7, 2019 by mll

[Mathew Barzal]

No, we need to shed bad contracts as early as possible.We might have room to re-sign our big guns but once we start accumulating quality depth there is going to be some tough cap decisions with the way our team is structured.

 

There are too many overpaid bottom six bodies.

[86Viking]

50 minutes ago, Mathew Barzal said:

No, we need to shed bad contracts as early as possible.We might have room to re-sign our big guns but once we start accumulating quality depth there is going to be some tough cap decisions with the way our team is structured.

 

There are too many overpaid bottom six bodies.

I agree, but the last statement you made falls solely on our GM for making all of those longer commitments to bottom 6 players

[King Heffy]

No.  Boeser's contract expires at the same time as LE's for a reason.

[the grinder]

3 hours ago, Canuckster86 said:

Kyle Turris has regressed quite a bit and now Nashville is stacked at C with Johansen, Duchene and BoninoBoninoBonino!

 

Would it be worth us to take on his contract if we were able to send Eriksson/Sutter the other way?

 

Kyle Turris 6m cap hit until 2023-24 when he will be 34

 

for

 

Loui Eriksson 6m cap hit until 2021/22 when he will be 36

 

Canucks take on 2 more years of contract for the better player, albeit dimished stats. So do we have to add something like a Goldy to the deal and or can we get Nashville to retain a bit of salary?

 

Or do we try:

 

Turris 6m with retention or add a 2020 2nd round pick (they have 2)

 

for

 

Sutter 4.375m till 2020/21 32yr old at end of deal

 

Either way I thought of this idea where we add out a higher paid kind of redundant or useless player for a player who has fallen in the depth charts in Nashville and he happens to be a New West kid. Turris has 0 NTC also, so we could flip him or expose him to Seattle when the expansion draft occurs.

no that doesn't solve any of our current problems , it actually makes it worse  and why would Nashville even think that  there are in cap trouble as well , makes zero sense 

[Coconuts]

I'm not interested in acquiring additional term. We're gonna need that cap space going forward. 

[86Viking]

49 minutes ago, the grinder said:

no that doesn't solve any of our current problems , it actually makes it worse  and why would Nashville even think that  there are in cap trouble as well , makes zero sense 

nashville does it to lose a 6m cap hit years sooner, thats why they would consider it

[86Viking]

54 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

No.  Boeser's contract expires at the same time as LE's for a reason.

BB6 needs to prove over this contract he is worth of a hefty raise also though. He will make more but it might not be as insane as some expect. Slow start for him but hopeful he kicks it into gear in the next few games and can get close to 40 this year and the following 2 after that!

[King Heffy]

4 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said:

BB6 needs to prove over this contract he is worth of a hefty raise also though. He will make more but it might not be as insane as some expect. Slow start for him but hopeful he kicks it into gear in the next few games and can get close to 40 this year and the following 2 after that!

Lu, Beagle, Roussell all also expiring at that time.  We'll have a ton of cap space to sign someone to put us over the top, assuming our core develops as expected.  Turris hurts us right at the time our window opens.

Edited October 8, 2019 by King Heffy

[86Viking]

3 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

Lu, Beagle, Roussell all also expiring at that time.  We'll have a ton of cap space to sign someone to put us over the top, assuming our core develops as expected.  Turris hurts us right at the time our window opens.

Not too sure about a ton of $. We also need to sign, Petey, Quinn and Marky/Demko/#1G plus the year after Bo will need a new deal too. Hopefully the cap goes sky high and we sign Petey and Quinn to longer term deals next summer

[Nuck1991]

alex wennberg of blue jackets has fallen off the clip and is signed for 4 more years. Obviously Louie would have to waive for that and we have to throw in a sweetner. Wennberg almost hit 60 points 2 seasons ago and has better chance of finding his game with petey. I feel like hes been stuck under torts system.

[Ray_Cathode]

4 hours ago, Canuckster86 said:

Kyle Turris has regressed quite a bit and now Nashville is stacked at C with Johansen, Duchene and BoninoBoninoBonino!

 

Would it be worth us to take on his contract if we were able to send Eriksson/Sutter the other way?

 

Kyle Turris 6m cap hit until 2023-24 when he will be 34

 

for

 

Loui Eriksson 6m cap hit until 2021/22 when he will be 36

 

Canucks take on 2 more years of contract for the better player, albeit dimished stats. So do we have to add something like a Goldy to the deal and or can we get Nashville to retain a bit of salary?

 

Or do we try:

 

Turris 6m with retention or add a 2020 2nd round pick (they have 2)

 

for

 

Sutter 4.375m till 2020/21 32yr old at end of deal

 

Either way I thought of this idea where we add out a higher paid kind of redundant or useless player for a player who has fallen in the depth charts in Nashville and he happens to be a New West kid. Turris has 0 NTC also, so we could flip him or expose him to Seattle when the expansion draft occurs.

We need to create a space for Gaudette not buy a four year roadblock.

[mll]

22 minutes ago, Nuck1991 said:

alex wennberg of blue jackets has fallen off the clip and is signed for 4 more years. Obviously Louie would have to waive for that and we have to throw in a sweetner. Wennberg almost hit 60 points 2 seasons ago and has better chance of finding his game with petey. I feel like hes been stuck under torts system.

Kekaleinen after the Worlds where Wennberg played C1 for Sweden said he looked great and there was no reason to think he couldn't rebound.  He was saying that Wennberg simply had a bad year. Doesn't sound like they are looking to trade him just yet.  

[86Viking]

30 minutes ago, Nuck1991 said:

alex wennberg of blue jackets has fallen off the clip and is signed for 4 more years. Obviously Louie would have to waive for that and we have to throw in a sweetner. Wennberg almost hit 60 points 2 seasons ago and has better chance of finding his game with petey. I feel like hes been stuck under torts system.

Ya it would cost us and would Loui waive for Torts...me thinks no

[86Viking]

10 minutes ago, Ray_Cathode said:

We need to create a space for Gaudette not buy a four year roadblock.

C can play any F position. Not a bad thing to have quality C depth in case of an injury. Also, If Gaud proves himself we can get Seattle to take Turris worst case scenario. If he is playing well it would look like the picked up a solid veteran player

[mll]

8 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said:

C can play any F position. Not a bad thing to have quality C depth in case of an injury. Also, If Gaud proves himself we can get Seattle to take Turris worst case scenario. If he is playing well it would look like the picked up a solid veteran player

Turris said this training camp that he has never played wing.  

[the grinder]

1 hour ago, Canuckster86 said:

nashville does it to lose a 6m cap hit years sooner, thats why they would consider it

 , you can kiss petey or hughes bye then  we need to gain cap space not extend  "a' loui  type contract" for 2 more years , we want to lose that type of contract . The canucks have already paid loui most of his money ,they can buy loui out next year,   so again  it doesn't make any sense on the canuck side 

[Tinky-Winky]

you wish u could get turris , none wants  Eriksson as his contract is WAYYY WAYY to high and he hasnt done much offensively , so the interest is almost zero ( JB tried to trade him already, and as u see he still with the canucks )  , and sutter is to well known for being injured all the time, so his value is down the drain.

 

Just accept it, we stuck with these till they retire or get hurt or JB buys them out, so they can release em

Edited October 8, 2019 by Dave "The Hammer" Schultz