kingofsurrey Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 58 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: a natural gas pipeline isn't 'genocide' - you shouldn't flippantly use terms like that, it blows your argument. Destroying first nations territory / lands is actually considered genocide... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 13 hours ago, Standing_Tall#37 said: Ok Boomer. Lol. I just wanted to post this gif. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 19 hours ago, Alflives said: King, are those who are legitimately unable to care for themselves lazy ass losers? I’m not referring to those who truly need society to help them. It’s the lazy ass losers, who siphon from the government trough I’m talking about. And the left wing tree hugging socialist politicians keep feeding the lazy ass losers because it gets them elected. That shows just how many lazy ass losers there must be. Seriously, what hard working person wants to give their hard earned money to the lazy ass losers? When you see the number of new jobs created in a month are government jobs we should be upset. Every year government takes over more of the economy. Checks and balances are being removed. It is upsetting that younger people don’t really question this. The nanny state cannot provide for all. It is a long term debilitating process. It is a cop out for poor performance by government. Lack of leadership. Most people have no faith in their leadership these days. Very destabilizing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 13 hours ago, kingofsurrey said: Destroying first nations territory / lands is actually considered genocide... no, its not, and thats also not whats happening in this case, or what the hereditary chiefs are mad about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: When you see the number of new jobs created in a month are government jobs we should be upset. Every year government takes over more of the economy. Checks and balances are being removed. It is upsetting that younger people don’t really question this. The nanny state cannot provide for all. It is a long term debilitating process. It is a cop out for poor performance by government. Lack of leadership. Most people have no faith in their leadership these days. Very destabilizing. facts are your friend. Canada had 250,000 federal employees in 1990, 258,000 in 2016. GDP is increasing relative to an essentially static number of federal government employees. https://www.canada.ca/en/treasury-board-secretariat/services/innovation/human-resources-statistics/demographic-snapshot-federal-public-service-2016.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: facts are your friend. Canada had 250,000 federal employees in 1990, 258,000 in 2016. GDP is increasing relative to an essentially static number of federal government employees. https://www.canada.ca/en/treasury-board-secretariat/services/innovation/human-resources-statistics/demographic-snapshot-federal-public-service-2016.html So you believe the government only hired 8000 employees in 26 years. Cannot believe everything you read. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Boudrias said: So you believe the government only hired 8000 employees in 26 years. Cannot believe everything you read. so you think there are secret employees? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: facts are your friend. Canada had 250,000 federal employees in 1990, 258,000 in 2016. GDP is increasing relative to an essentially static number of federal government employees. https://www.canada.ca/en/treasury-board-secretariat/services/innovation/human-resources-statistics/demographic-snapshot-federal-public-service-2016.html Hmm, just checking the statistics from 2015 vs now (basically, since Trudeau has been prime minister), the percentage hasn't moved at all. 20% then, 20% now of all workers are public sector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Duodenum said: Hmm, just checking the statistics from 2015 vs now (basically, since Trudeau has been prime minister), the percentage hasn't moved at all. 20% then, 20% now of all workers are public sector. its actually not that easy to land a good government job. The number of people retiring out has roughly matched the new hires, and of course our population has gone up without really increasing the number of employees since 1990, so we have about 10,000,000 more people with the same number of employees. We're 1/3 more efficient since 1990. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Boudrias said: So you believe the government only hired 8000 employees in 26 years. Cannot believe everything you read. Are you taking into account that people retire, pass away, change jobs, get fired?? In down times, just like any business, there will be hiring freezes, layoffs (usually casual or part timers), and vacancies (positions not filled yet) removed from staffing. But like any business, they could trim the fat and/or get rid of programs. The Phoenix debacle was to reduce payroll staff and get things automated. However the genius who brought it in failed to test it for all the Government working hour scenarios. Thus a lot of people got screwed (ie, not getting paid). Edited February 9, 2020 by BPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 27 minutes ago, Boudrias said: So you believe the government only hired 8000 employees in 26 years. Cannot believe everything you read. this is one of those times B when you need to maybe re-asses your thinking on a topic. You're clearly wrong on the number of federal employees Canada hires. With retirements and people moving into other jobs, the hiring rate has been relatively static for decades. Its actually not been bloated along with our population increase. Instead of rejecting the facts, which seems to be in fashion these days, maybe this is one of those topic where you take the info and re-adjust your ideas of whats going on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: no, its not, and thats also not whats happening in this case, or what the hereditary chiefs are mad about. I will go with the elected leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said: I will go with the elected leaders. yup. Its not even in question imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: yup. Its not even in question imo. Exactly and what he called genocide was nuts and furthermore is not what is happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Ryan Strome said: Exactly and what he called genocide was nuts and furthermore is not what is happening. I really dislike all the hyperbole on "both sides" for lack of a better term. What word do we now use for an actual genocide? But I guess its easy to throw around terms like this when you support a UN group that hasn't heard of google. The reality is we have a few dozen protestors lined up against 20 elected band leaders and the actual law. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: its actually not that easy to land a good government job. The number of people retiring out has roughly matched the new hires, and of course our population has gone up without really increasing the number of employees since 1990, so we have about 10,000,000 more people with the same number of employees. We're 1/3 more efficient since 1990. Gov. jobs like teachers jobs... pay like crap. You can make similar wages getting a paper route. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: I really dislike all the hyperbole on "both sides" for lack of a better term. What word do we now use for an actual genocide? But I guess its easy to throw around terms like this when you support a UN group that hasn't heard of google. The reality is we have a few dozen protestors lined up against 20 elected band leaders and the actual law. 100 % wrong. You need to get informed. https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/vancouver-rally-planned-in-solidarity-with-wetsuweten-land-defenders Edited February 9, 2020 by kingofsurrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: 100 % wrong. You need to get informed. https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/vancouver-rally-planned-in-solidarity-with-wetsuweten-land-defenders King, I like you but when you claim people are being executed you're cheapening real acts of violence and just look spastic on this topic. I don't care that anti-TMX people are joining in, they don't want a pipeline of any kind because that word is now a symbol for them. Common sense, reason, compromise - none of that matters to these people. They just want to get to "no" as soon as possible. They provide nothing. Edited February 9, 2020 by Jimmy McGill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: King, I like you but when you claim people are being executed you're cheapening real acts of violence and just look spastic on this topic. I don't care that anti-TMX people are joining in, they don't want a pipeline of any kind because that word is now a symbol for them. Common sense, reason, compromise - not of that matters to these people. They just want to get to "no" as soon as possible. They provide nothing. "Canada has displayed a continuous policy, with shifting expressed motives but an ultimately steady intention, to destroy Indigenous peoples physically, biologically, and as social units, thereby fulfilling the required specific intent element," said a supplemental report. When Canadian officials began discussing the "Indian problem," it's clear that Indigenous people were seen as barrier to overcome, he said. "Indigenous people were represented as an obstacle to Canadian nation-building, as an obstacle to land possession. "We see that a variety of different techniques put in place like residential schools, famine and forced removals." https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/genocide-case-inquiry-1.5160941 Edited February 9, 2020 by kingofsurrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: "Canada has displayed a continuous policy, with shifting expressed motives but an ultimately steady intention, to destroy Indigenous peoples physically, biologically, and as social units, thereby fulfilling the required specific intent element," said a supplemental report. When Canadian officials began discussing the "Indian problem," it's clear that Indigenous people were seen as barrier to overcome, he said. "Indigenous people were represented as an obstacle to Canadian nation-building, as an obstacle to land possession. "We see that a variety of different techniques put in place like residential schools, famine and forced removals." https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/genocide-case-inquiry-1.5160941 20 bands want it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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