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6 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

Nah I don't think so. Singh is going to nationalize it.:ph34r:

yeah thats probably what he's going to suggest. The NDP manufacturing pharmaceuticals... what could go wrong? 

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3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

yeah thats probably what he's going to suggest. The NDP manufacturing pharmaceuticals... what could go wrong? 

No help in Alberta Jim. I just called and asked.

Told me I don't qualify, I refuse to ask Ottawa!!

Looks like I will go down with the ship.:picard:

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1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said:

No help in Alberta Jim. I just called and asked.

Told me I don't qualify, I refuse to ask Ottawa!!

Looks like I will go down with the ship.:picard:

TMX is a certainty now tho, even if JT has to declare it in the national interest. TBH I'd like to see him to that with EE and CGL too.

 

And help AB diversify, but ffs man your resistance to it reminds me of the challenges I had giving my kid cough medicine. Just take it already!!! 

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1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said:

TMX is a certainty now tho, even if JT has to declare it in the national interest. TBH I'd like to see him to that with EE and CGL too.

 

And help AB diversify, but ffs man your resistance to it reminds me of the challenges I had giving my kid cough medicine. Just take it already!!! 

NOPE!!

He has to declare EE national interest and emergency imo.

 

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5 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said:

Alberta oil is now under $4 per barrel :wacko: Like less than a fricking hamburger. (https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/oilsands-producers-in-the-red-as-blended-bitumen-price-dips-below-4-per-barrel-1.4874401)

 

What I'd like to see is a whack of money go to AB and SK and NL to help them diversify. Maybe instead of the Canadian government funding another pipeline, put 4 or 5 billion in to a new generic pharmaceutical plant in in Calgary instead, so that we at least aren't reliant on supply from China in a disaster. But @Ryan Strome would have to agree to drop #wexit otherwise its going to Quebec :ph34r:

 

Hell, I say let them go :lol:

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While the headline of the article this topic is referring to makes it sound like an excessive amount of money is going to the arts industry, like $54 billion or something, reading the article more closely paints a different picture. 

 

The article says that the $54 billion is part of the stimulus package that is directed towards the self employed and small businesses, and that the package would EXTEND to the arts and culture industry.  It didn't say the money is just for the arts, nor did it specify what portion of the package is for the arts.  The article also said that the package includes the media industry as well, such as the newspapers and magazines. 

 

So while that $54 billion is an eye opening amount, it may very well be that the arts and culture industry only sees a fraction of it. 

 

 

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Any EMERGENCY funds being spent by the government during the worst pandemic to hit the world in the last 100 years should be spent on medical equipment and supplies and to help the citizens out so they can pay their bills.

 

No one said the arts should just be shut down never again to see the light of day.

 

The point of the debate was that emergency funds should not go to the arts at all (see above line once again) but for relevant needs to get us through the pandemic.

 

I bolded the important part so everyone understands we are talking about funds allocated specifically to get us through the pandemic.

 

Seems to be a pretty simple concept.

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2 hours ago, Kanukfanatic said:

Any EMERGENCY funds being spent by the government during the worst pandemic to hit the world in the last 100 years should be spent on medical equipment and supplies and to help the citizens out so they can pay their bills.

 

No one said the arts should just be shut down never again to see the light of day.

 

The point of the debate was that emergency funds should not go to the arts at all (see above line once again) but for relevant needs to get us through the pandemic.

 

I bolded the important part so everyone understands we are talking about funds allocated specifically to get us through the pandemic.

 

Seems to be a pretty simple concept.

But part of emergency funding is to help all workers in all industries. You seem to want to cut out the arts early for some reason, but you could make the same argument for other industries.

 

We don't need to do the kind of decision you're talking about to get through this. 

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2 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said:

But part of emergency funding is to help all workers in all industries. You seem to want to cut out the arts early for some reason, but you could make the same argument for other industries.

 

We don't need to do the kind of decision you're talking about to get through this. 

Agreed.  This was not a pandemic stimulus package, it was an economic stimulus package brought on because of the pandemic. While the medical and healthcare services, as well as the unemployed and furloughed workers are obviously at the forefront of this package, every other industry is gonna need some relief as well.  Otherwise these unemployed and furloughed workers are gonna have no job to go back to.

 

My perspective is that this stimulus package was for both short term and long term needs.  Short term packages to help us get through our current crises, long term packages to get us back on our feet after the crises.  At least that's how I see anyways.

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13 minutes ago, skolozsy2 said:

Agreed.  This was not a pandemic stimulus package, it was an economic stimulus package brought on because of the pandemic. While the medical and healthcare services, as well as the unemployed and furloughed workers are obviously at the forefront of this package, every other industry is gonna need some relief as well.  Otherwise these unemployed and furloughed workers are gonna have no job to go back to.

 

My perspective is that this stimulus package was for both short term and long term needs.  Short term packages to help us get through our current crises, long term packages to get us back on our feet after the crises.  At least that's how I see anyways.

I was talking to my realtor the other day and her husband is in the film industry - he claims there are 100,000 layoffs in BC alone right now in direct and indirect film industry work stoppage. We just can't let these and other creative types left hanging. 

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9 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said:

But part of emergency funding is to help all workers in all industries. You seem to want to cut out the arts early for some reason, but you could make the same argument for other industries.

 

We don't need to do the kind of decision you're talking about to get through this. 

How would you know? Give me a break...

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