All four Canadian political parties have applied for the Trudeau government's wage subsidy

[aGENT]

1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said:

damn all those white collars with their jobs paying taxes, who the heck do they think they are anyway? 

White collared commies, that's who!

[Warhippy]

14 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

some people don't feel secure unless they are entrenched on a "side". I think thats why you see so many conservative rural folks saying ridiculous things about opinions they think people in the city have about the country e.g. If anything city folk almost never think about rural issues.

 

I think its also easier to yank the chains of social conservatives because they tend to be more about simple principles (or thats what they tell themselves) which is why Khadr comes up so often. 

But those simple principals are always and I do mean always completely ignored immediately.  A lot of people claiming to be part of the good ol honourable crowd until it goes against those entrenched beliefs about shall we say...religious or racial views

 

Best case in point of course is the anti abortion crowd vs the wear a mask crowd.

 

As though somehow they don't see that telling a woman what she can or can't do with her body is nowhere near the same as wearing a mask.  They're fine telling her what she can or can't do.  But if it is suggested they wear a mask "my body my rules"

 

It's not just the conservative crowd in this matter but lately they seem to be the loudest and most egregious hypocrites.  Facts don't matter, showing them their glaring hypocrisy doesn't matter.  My side vs your side not we're all in the same boat.

 

In fact on that note, great old story about a boat captain and passengers.  Boat captain tells an endlessly unruly passenger who complains about everyone else that what others do is not his business as long as it is their room.  Then said unruly passenger starts drilling holes through their hull and tells the captain it's in my room so it's ok.

 

Kind of reminds me of that

[Standing_Tall#37]

1 hour ago, Warhippy said:

Uh huh

 

So is it communist or socialist 

 

You kinda need to pick a side

 

And posting 4 opinion columns, an opinion piece from CNN and a wikipedia write up are not in fact supportive of your statements.

 

You look childish with your baseless oft disproven rants.  Attempting to re-write history based on the whining of those on the right who refused to accept the truth for what it was only makes you look immature.

 

Lol you think I believe In the right???? Where did I stick up for the UCP or the Republicans  the left is so sensitive and always whines. If you criticize their little fruity leaders or party they attack the right.  And liberals hate facts that go against them. 

[Ryan Strome]

1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said:

some people don't feel secure unless they are entrenched on a "side". I think thats why you see so many conservative rural folks saying ridiculous things about opinions they think people in the city have about the country e.g. If anything city folk almost never think about rural issues.

 

I think its also easier to yank the chains of social conservatives because they tend to be more about simple principles (or thats what they tell themselves) which is why Khadr comes up so often. 

You mean like warhippy and destroyer?

[Ryan Strome]

48 minutes ago, Standing_Tall#37 said:

 

Lol you think I believe In the right???? Where did I stick up for the UCP or the Republicans  the left is so sensitive and always whines. If you criticize their little fruity leaders or party they attack the right.  And liberals hate facts that go against them. 

Bingo.

I call them the new liberals or new left. At one time the liberal party of Canada was somewhat decent but now they're just corrupt social justice warriors. 

[Ryan Strome]

1 hour ago, Warhippy said:

But those simple principals are always and I do mean always completely ignored immediately.  A lot of people claiming to be part of the good ol honourable crowd until it goes against those entrenched beliefs about shall we say...religious or racial views

 

Best case in point of course is the anti abortion crowd vs the wear a mask crowd.

 

As though somehow they don't see that telling a woman what she can or can't do with her body is nowhere near the same as wearing a mask.  They're fine telling her what she can or can't do.  But if it is suggested they wear a mask "my body my rules"

 

It's not just the conservative crowd in this matter but lately they seem to be the loudest and most egregious hypocrites.  Facts don't matter, showing them their glaring hypocrisy doesn't matter.  My side vs your side not we're all in the same boat.

 

In fact on that note, great old story about a boat captain and passengers.  Boat captain tells an endlessly unruly passenger who complains about everyone else that what others do is not his business as long as it is their room.  Then said unruly passenger starts drilling holes through their hull and tells the captain it's in my room so it's ok.

 

Kind of reminds me of that

Hmmm...you have a lot of posts in Alberta threads..

[Standing_Tall#37]

22 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

Hmmm...you have a lot of posts in Alberta threads..

He secretly loves it there, needs that equalization. All those coastal people are gonna be sad when the rest of Canada can’t sponge off of Alberta or northern BC. It won’t be so easy for them to live in those coastal regions when things get economically hard. No more prancing around on beaches and making postcards for a living

[thedestroyerofworlds]

1 hour ago, Ryan Strome said:

You mean like warhippy and destroyer?

You project too much.  If I'm guilty, then you're guilty coming from the "other side".

[JM_]

1 hour ago, Ryan Strome said:

You mean like warhippy and destroyer?

no I mean guys like our buddy in the thread here that have a 2x4 sized chip on his shoulder over Vancouver 

[JM_]

2 hours ago, Warhippy said:

But those simple principals are always and I do mean always completely ignored immediately.  A lot of people claiming to be part of the good ol honourable crowd until it goes against those entrenched beliefs about shall we say...religious or racial views

 

Best case in point of course is the anti abortion crowd vs the wear a mask crowd.

 

As though somehow they don't see that telling a woman what she can or can't do with her body is nowhere near the same as wearing a mask.  They're fine telling her what she can or can't do.  But if it is suggested they wear a mask "my body my rules"

yeah that one is pretty funny. My favourite is the myth that conservatives spend less. 

[ForsbergTheGreat]

3 hours ago, Warhippy said:

But those simple principals are always and I do mean always completely ignored immediately.  A lot of people claiming to be part of the good ol honourable crowd until it goes against those entrenched beliefs about shall we say...religious or racial views

 

Best case in point of course is the anti abortion crowd vs the wear a mask crowd.

 

As though somehow they don't see that telling a woman what she can or can't do with her body is nowhere near the same as wearing a mask.  They're fine telling her what she can or can't do.  But if it is suggested they wear a mask "my body my rules"

Comparing a living child to a paper mask.  R U F'ing kidding me???  

[Warhippy]

3 hours ago, Standing_Tall#37 said:

 

Lol you think I believe In the right???? Where did I stick up for the UCP or the Republicans  the left is so sensitive and always whines. If you criticize their little fruity leaders or party they attack the right.  And liberals hate facts that go against them. 

Sorry, where did I say anything about the UCP or GOP?

 

The fact is, your argument is stupid because like the right you're creating BS because you can't accept that you look stupid and cannot accept the facts over the rhetoric.

 

But, that's your schtick and we get it.

 

Conservatives.  Too stupid to know that communism and socialism are different but smart enough to ignore debating that fact

Edited May 23, 2020 by Warhippy

[Warhippy]

1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said:

yeah that one is pretty funny. My favourite is the myth that conservatives spend less. 

Speaking of which, Hey Strome, Forsberg...

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/6978893/ucp-federal-emergency-wage-subsidy/

 

 

[Warhippy]

2 hours ago, Ryan Strome said:

Hmmm...you have a lot of posts in Alberta threads..

He says while dictating what other provinces have to do to appease his province

[ForsbergTheGreat]

44 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Speaking of which, Hey Strome, Forsberg...

back peddling? or just realizing how dumb of a comparable you made and don't want to touch it.  Well I will.

 

First abortion really has zero to do with women's rights, this is proven by the fact that only 13% of people believe that an abortion should still be legal in the final trimester. Which is fair because you'd have to be a sick human to think it is ok to terminate a healthy baby that is full term.

 

Quote

Americans' support for the legality of abortion varies sharply when they are asked to evaluate it on a trimester basis, which is consistent with the pattern Gallup has found for more than 20 years. Six in 10 U.S. adults think abortion should generally be legal in the first three months of pregnancy. However, support drops by about half, to 28%, for abortions conducted in the second three months, and by half again, to 13%, in the final three months.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/235469/trimesters-key-abortion-views.aspx

 

Meaning abortion has less to do with telling a women about what she can do with her own body and more to do with the development of the fetus.   Strange how at 26 weeks it's "her body, her rules", but at 29 weeks it's all of the sudden, "yeah abortion ain't cool".  

 

Second, take out the anti/pro abortion focus.  If a pregnant women has a miscarriage, the impact of that loss if far more than the loss of someone misplacing their face mask.  The fact that you thought it's a reasonable comparable is just pure stupidity.  

 

[thedestroyerofworlds]

10 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

back peddling? or just realizing how dumb of a comparable you made and don't want to touch it.  Well I will.

 

First abortion really has zero to do with women's rights, this is proven by the fact that only 13% of people believe that an abortion should still be legal in the final trimester. Which is fair because you'd have to be a sick human to think it is ok to terminate a healthy baby that is full term.

 

https://news.gallup.com/poll/235469/trimesters-key-abortion-views.aspx

 

Meaning abortion has less to do with telling a women about what she can do with her own body and more to do with the development of the fetus.   Strange how at 26 weeks it's "her body, her rules", but at 29 weeks it's all of the sudden, "yeah abortion ain't cool".  

 

Second, take out the anti/pro abortion focus.  If a pregnant women has a miscarriage, the impact of that loss if far more than the loss of someone misplacing their face mask.  The fact that you thought it's a reasonable comparable is just pure stupidity.  

 

I thought polls were B.S. and not to be trusted.  I guess only when you are making a point.  And just to be fair, the healthy baby part really isn't at play here.  

 

Healthy babies really only coincides with the point in pregnancy called viability.  The point where the fetus can survive outside of the womb.  And BTW, the overwhelming majority of abortions take place before this point.  From the CDC:

 

https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/data_stats/abortion.htm

 

"91.0% of abortions were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (7.7%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (1.2%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation."

 

That last number, is what pro-birthers call "late-term" abortions.  That last number represents possible "healthy babies".  Of that number, there is a significant percentage of these "late-term" abortions that are performed for valid medical reasons.  A lot of the mothers who fall in this category actually wanted their children.  Give this a read:

 

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/30/718546468/opponents-fight-efforts-to-protect-late-term-abortion-rights

Abortion In The Third Trimester: A Rare Decision Now In The Political Spotlight

[Ryan Strome]

1 hour ago, Warhippy said:

Speaking of which, Hey Strome, Forsberg...

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/6978893/ucp-federal-emergency-wage-subsidy/

 

 

I think this is complete BS just like the federal parties doing it.

1 hour ago, Warhippy said:

He says while dictating what other provinces have to do to appease his province

I thought it was funny u actually said that haha.

 

[Warhippy]

31 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

back peddling? or just realizing how dumb of a comparable you made and don't want to touch it.  Well I will.

 

First abortion really has zero to do with women's rights, this is proven by the fact that only 13% of people believe that an abortion should still be legal in the final trimester. Which is fair because you'd have to be a sick human to think it is ok to terminate a healthy baby that is full term.

 

https://news.gallup.com/poll/235469/trimesters-key-abortion-views.aspx

 

Meaning abortion has less to do with telling a women about what she can do with her own body and more to do with the development of the fetus.   Strange how at 26 weeks it's "her body, her rules", but at 29 weeks it's all of the sudden, "yeah abortion ain't cool".  

 

Second, take out the anti/pro abortion focus.  If a pregnant women has a miscarriage, the impact of that loss if far more than the loss of someone misplacing their face mask.  The fact that you thought it's a reasonable comparable is just pure stupidity.  

 

So you took, a comparative in literal comparison only and ran with it like that was the point I was trying to make regarding people on the right in canada seeming to be blatant and glaring hypocrites?

 

K.

 

It's not a back peddle when I am simply posting a story about the UCP spending every dollar they have and then looking for government handouts in response to Jimmy rightfully stating the myth of conservatives spending less.

 

MY comment regarding abortions is in response to the irony of there being a minority who still seem to want to tell women what they can do with their body but simultaneously saying "my body my say" in regards to wearing a mask.  if you don't see the galling hypocrisy in that I can't help you.  But nowhere, and really I do mean nowhere did I make mention of abortions being ok, or not; nor did I speak my personal views on it and I certainly don't know why you felt the need to bring in 3rd trimester abortion arguments which, let's be honest is NOT a practice anyone engages in willingly.

 

Again, if you cannot see the blatant irony in a small, very small crowd refusing to wear a mask because it impinges on their bodily autonomy but simultaneously telling women what they can or can't do with their body I cannot help you.  As for you not thinking an abortion hs anything to do with women's rights, well that's fine as it's your opinion only  but it's just another thing we'll never agree on.

[Warhippy]

2 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

I think this is complete BS just like the federal parties doing it.

I thought it was funny u actually said that haha.

 

I'm just here for the laughs.

[Ryan Strome]

1 minute ago, Warhippy said:

I'm just here for the laughs.

It's about all we can do these days.