Mafia: The Game [Capo de tutti Capi] - Serial Killer Win

[AV.]

Just now, Sharpshooter said:

Yep

Who would you vote for this round if not naslund.is.king?

[BoKnows]

Vote Kurisu

[BoKnows]

Pushing a NIK seemingly out of nowhere.  Doesn't right with me.

[BoKnows]

Just now, BoKnows said:

Pushing a NIK seemingly out of nowhere.  Doesn't sit right with me.

 

[naslund.is.king]

14 minutes ago, BoKnows said:

Pushing a NIK seemingly out of nowhere.  Doesn't right with me.

I’m trying to decide if it’s W/W with K and MR or not

i have a feeling one definatly is 

maybe it’s W/SK

[BoKnows]

3 minutes ago, naslund.is.king said:

I’m trying to decide if it’s W/W with K and MR or not

i have a feeling one definatly is 

maybe it’s W/SK

SK being serial killer.

W as in watcher?

[naslund.is.king]

5 minutes ago, BoKnows said:

SK being serial killer.

W as in watcher?

Yes and W being wolf/mafia

[BoKnows]

2 minutes ago, naslund.is.king said:

Yes and W being wolf/mafia

Kurisu putting a wagon on you for no real reason makes me lean him(?) as a wolf.  No one else has done anything that has caught my eye.

[AV.]

Unvote, vote Kurisu

[Intoewsables]

Player	Votes on Player	From Player(s)
naslund.is.king	2	Kurisu, Master Radishes
Kurisu	2	BoKnows, Alain Vigneault
Alain Vigneault	1	DarthMelvin

 

[AV.]

Medkit Tree

 

R1 Time Lord

--> hoggers 

--> Kurisu       

 

R2 hoggers/Kurisu

--> J-23

--> ???

 

R3 J-23

--> Alain Vigneault

--> naslund.is.king

 

R4 Alain Vigneault

--> won't reveal

--> just yet

 

What does this tell us?  Well, not a whole lot, but we can speculate a few things.

 

1.  if hoggers received it from Time Lord, he would have almost certainly picked two teammates to pass it off on.  That would have suggested J-23 as his teammate.  However, if that was the case, why would J-23 then pass it off to me (not mafia) or naslund.is.king?  Doesn't make too much sense unless J-23 was going for some ultra-tricky play by recklessly passing it off. 

 

With this in mind, we can probably say that J-23 is not a member of the mafia (although, he obviously still remains a candidate for 3P).  Likewise, we can infer that hoggers probably didn't receive it either.

 

2.  If Kurisu received it from Time Lord (and I believe it is very likely he did), all we know right now is that he would have chosen J-23 as an option but we would have no idea as to why.  Luckily for us, he is still alive so... @Kurisu, if you received the medkit in R2, can you tell us who you passed the medkit off on?  If you answer, can you elaborate as to why you picked J-23/the other person?

 

A green Kurisu should have no problems providing this info to the town.  Let's hope he does so.

[naslund.is.king]

21 minutes ago, Alain Vigneault said:

Medkit Tree

 

R1 Time Lord

--> hoggers 

--> Kurisu       

 

R2 hoggers/Kurisu

--> J-23

--> ???

 

R3 J-23

--> Alain Vigneault

--> naslund.is.king

 

R4 Alain Vigneault

--> won't reveal

--> just yet

 

What does this tell us?  Well, not a whole lot, but we can speculate a few things.

 

1.  if hoggers received it from Time Lord, he would have almost certainly picked two teammates to pass it off on.  That would have suggested J-23 as his teammate.  However, if that was the case, why would J-23 then pass it off to me (not mafia) or naslund.is.king?  Doesn't make too much sense unless J-23 was going for some ultra-tricky play by recklessly passing it off. 

 

With this in mind, we can probably say that J-23 is not a member of the mafia (although, he obviously still remains a candidate for 3P).  Likewise, we can infer that hoggers probably didn't receive it either.

 

2.  If Kurisu received it from Time Lord (and I believe it is very likely he did), all we know right now is that he would have chosen J-23 as an option but we would have no idea as to why.  Luckily for us, he is still alive so... @Kurisu, if you received the medkit in R2, can you tell us who you passed the medkit off on?  If you answer, can you elaborate as to why you picked J-23/the other person?

 

A green Kurisu should have no problems providing this info to the town.  Let's hope he does so.

This is the first time I’ve seen someone go this route 

I like it

[naslund.is.king]

@Alain Vigneault how does it work? You can only keep it for a round and that’s it?

trying to figure out who’s who thinking about j in my mind he’s acting as towny as ever but he could be deep wolf but then that same point comes to my mind...why would you pass it off to town? It makes no sense unless it’s part of a big play on me and you.

 

[AV.]

1 minute ago, naslund.is.king said:

@Alain Vigneault how does it work? You can only keep it for a round and that’s it?

trying to figure out who’s who thinking about j in my mind he’s acting as towny as ever but he could be deep wolf but then that same point comes to my mind...why would you pass it off to town? It makes no sense unless it’s part of a big play on me and you.

 

Basically.  You receive it and you pass it off.

[AV.]

On 8/9/2020 at 1:20 AM, Blue Jay 22 said:

bluejay, mr, and one of av / timelord is where i am at

Green, undetermined, and green/green.

 

Does the rule about scum slipping in scum hold up here?

[J-23]

I pass the medkit to the two people I thought were the towniest in the game and trusted. 
 

However, no trust from AV anymore.

 

Going back to my original list of MR, BK and TheRockey (replacing with DM)

 

These three have flown under the radar big time. MR with a TL type of game.

 

Vote MR

[AV.]

On 8/9/2020 at 1:41 AM, hoggers said:

sharpshooter is town. i have a few ideas but i cant make anything fit with what i know about the site and the game. pretty sure it's mafia related 

Looks good for Sharpshooter

On 8/9/2020 at 2:01 AM, falcon45ca said:

What the fuxk are you talking about? How was Aladeen the obvious MK? Why wasnt Hoggs, the Sheriff claim, the MK?

This is in response to Sharpshooter.  It's a valid point

On 8/9/2020 at 2:08 AM, Sharpshooter said:

If you sobered up a little, you’d know what the &^@# I was talking about you dumb dip$&!#. 
 

I said, and I’ll repeat myself once again for those in drunken stupors: Hogs will likely be the next MK.  I hope that’s easy to follow for some of you. 

Tries to downplay falcon45ca's thoughts and starts to push this scenario will hoggers will be dying R2.  This would be one of many messages that these two would exchange with each other in R2.

On 8/9/2020 at 3:22 AM, Sharpshooter said:

Z and AV probably the top two sus. 
 

If Hogs really is Sherriff then I’ll hoping he’ll clear one or two players for town. 

Pushing the hoggers = sheriff , the top sus are also town

On 8/9/2020 at 3:51 AM, falcon45ca said:

LL brought up 8 players in his spew post, and they all interacted in different ways in his diatribe. I've broken them down as follows, but I do ask others to weigh in and give their thoughts as well.

 

 

BJ, Zfetch, NIK, TR18, GC16, MR, BoKnows.

 

BJ & Z: BJ is brought up with emphasis on his protection of Z's entrance. It's fairly brief.

NIK & TR18: NIK is brought up for his defense of TR18, and overall tone & banter.

 

These connections lead LL to first list BJ, Z, & TR18...then he adds NIK afterwards, despite the fact he brought up NIK's defense of TR18 previously.

 

He then throws out GC16, and calls out 112...I think this was a shade attempt to push a VK on a quiet, but potent player. He does the 112 reference twice, so it was noooooo mistake.

 

Afterwards, BoKnows & MR are tossed out, but not associated with any other players, just LL mudslinging really, especially with BoKnows. Z is also given a parting jab.

 

 

HOGGERS IS TOTALLY UNMENTIONED.

 

I find this odd, especially in light of hoggers ability and posting frequency. His absence from LL's lists at all, combined with his CC at the SAME TIME that LL's Sheriff claim.

 

 

And then we must not forget...the MK was on Aladeen, who LL TP cleared, and who also claimed to be in contact with the Sheriff.

 

 

In order for the Mafia to kill Aladeen, they had to believe his death was better for them than @hoggers, the claimed Sheriff. Unless he's also Maf. 

 

 

 

Remember the whole "who's even, I'm odd" Sheriff discussion those two had...that those two brought up?

 

 

 

LL & Hoggs claim Sheriff. Aladeen says "I got PM'd by Sheriff!" 

 

 

 

 

LL gets flipped MAF, so of course the MK should fall to Hoggs...but goes to Aladeen instead.

 

 

 

Vote Hoggers

Wow, clairvoyant af.  Nicely done falcon45ca.  Interestingly, Sharpshooter also not mentioned either.

On 8/9/2020 at 3:59 AM, naslund.is.king said:

Don’t you think that’s a fairly large risk for the team to essentially false claim half the team? I get your theory but it’s such a risky move for the scum team

Fair question but tries to downplay a reasonable thought-process.

On 8/9/2020 at 4:07 AM, Sharpshooter said:

I get that Hogs ought to have been MK’d over Al, but scum may take him out at N2. I agree, the question is why didn’t they take him out first? If they take him out in N2(hopefully Doc puts a save on him) then we know he was telling the truth(if the MK flip reveals role)

 

Its possible scum didn’t believe Hogs and thought Al was really the Sheriff. Or, it’s possible Hogs is scum. Or, it’s possible scum screwed up. It could be any one of those scenarios. 

Still pushing that hoggers = sheriff agenda.  This is interesting though because a) he is pushing for a potential doc save, b) trying to raise the possibility that no successful MK of hoggers in R2 = hoggers is legit sheriff.  Kind of looks to me like he's trying to openly preserve a teammate.

 

At the bottom, he makes sure to cover all tracks, almost like he knows there's a possibility that hoggers is scum.  For somebody who was adamant that hoggers would be MK'd, why even post that?

[AV.]

Even Sharpshooter's tone yesterday after Time Lord was mislynched was weird.  Way too angry and aggressive I thought.  I'm sure Time Lord himself would have told us that he wasn't exactly looking clear-cut town, so it's weird to have seen Sharpshooter reacted the way he did.

 

I could understand Sharpshooter getting defensive to the extent he was when we almost lynched him in R2 but calling everybody idiots and whatnot seemed misplaced.

[J-23]

So AV you have just accused DM, NIK, K, and SS all in this round. I like the substance but where was this earlier?

 

Feel like you’re trying to create chaos after that PM push on TL...

[AV.]

4 minutes ago, J-23 said:

So AV you have just accused DM, NIK, K, and SS all in this round. I like the substance but where was this earlier?

 

Feel like you’re trying to create chaos after that PM push on TL...

Somebody has to do the work to open up discussion

 

Serial killer and mafia took out the vocal players...and even then, that's not saying much.

 

What do you think of some of the suspicion?