coastal.view Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 minute ago, stawns said: I feel, from your posts, that you are naive to the truth of human behaviour completely untrue you are naive to what we have just seen happen the entire population effectively followed recommendations and the virus outbreak was managed to be controlled that is reality not sure what else you need to see 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Me_ said: “And stay home if/when they have ailment” Have you not been watching the news lately? STAY HOME UNLESS NECESSARY. THAT’S THE MEMO. Not “stay home if/ when you’re sick” We’re more than 6 months into a world pandemic and you’re still arguing against Global, National & Provincial protocol? Your necessities should include: Groceries once a week, alone. ...........and that’s about it. Get with the god damn program bud. not true dr henry repeatedly tells people to get out get exercise do you even watch her updates? i do daily you have your own agenda i think 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Just now, coastal.view said: completely untrue you are naive to what we have just seen happen the entire population effectively followed recommendations and the virus outbreak was managed to be controlled that is reality not sure what else you need to see Not, “was”... ”is”. Nothing is over until there’s a vaccine. It’s that simple. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, coastal.view said: not true dr henry repeatedly tells people to get out get exercise do you even watch her updates? i do daily you have your own agenda i think I don’t really care about Dr. Henry. Sorry. Everyone else says stay home. STAY HOME. You’re right. I have my own agenda; not going out, not getting Covid-19, not taxing our National healthcare, and telling “laxed out” people to get with the program. Edited April 13, 2020 by Me_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Me_ said: Not, “was”... ”is”. Nothing is over until there’s a vaccine. It’s that simple. you plan to stay home for 18 months ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, coastal.view said: you fail to answer what other realism needs to be factored in i get that some people feel afraid no matter what fear levels do not determine what is safe i strongly advocated adhering to all restrictions and recommendations they worked so great, they worked so let's get on with things if we see there is more then a minor set back we can always readjust and be a little more restrictive but i doubt that will happen people will maintain safe practices they have learned we are not stupid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Just now, Me_ said: I don’t really care about Dr. Henry. Sorry. Everyone else says stay home. STAY HOME. so you are the authority you issued the memo? seriously people do what is safe but don't cower in what was needed to make things safe learn from it continue to apply and let's get more sophisticated about how to more clearly limit activity going forward a complete shut down is not sustainable and will in fact incite non compliance it has to make sense to be effective 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Just now, coastal.view said: based on what? you are fear mongering practice the safety recommendations i'm not saying go back entirely to how things were before i just want to start slowly to more options for people isolation has its own costs It's not fear mongering. It's protecting people. I know I'll most likely survive this pandemic. However, if I get this virus, my parents could be dead. That's the reality of the situation. In this case, famous last words mean people you love will die. I'm not saying that to cause fear. I'm saying that's what WILL happen if this virus is not kept in check. Is that what you want? Anyway, I'm not going to hold your hand in all of this. You clearly don't understand the situation we're in and I feel that even if I gave you 30 articles on this subject, you'd still be in some form of denial. Stay safe dude. I know this likely isn't what you want and you're likely frustrated with this whole thing, but stay safe. Err on the side of caution because it's the people who think this whole thing is "fear mongering" who will ultimately kill more people unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Just now, coastal.view said: you plan to stay home for 18 months ? “You plan on fighting WWII for 18 months?” It’s not a choice. And yes, I plan to stay home for 18 months unless announced otherwise. Read the books. Change careers. Do whatever you do, but STAY HOME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, coastal.view said: so you are the authority you issued the memo? seriously people do what is safe but don't cower in what was needed to make things safe learn from it continue to apply and let's get more sophisticated about how to more clearly limit activity going forward a complete shut down is not sustainable and will in fact incite non compliance it has to make sense to be effective You are right. However, this is very early in the game and flouting protocol is nothing short of criminal in many instances. Now you got some ideas on how to get out of this, please be my guess in spreading the goods and helping out. Or even copyright or patent the thing and start it up. But seriously, advocating going out is the stupidest thing anyone could do right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 minute ago, The Lock said: It's not fear mongering. It's protecting people. I know I'll most likely survive this pandemic. However, if I get this virus, my parents could be dead. That's the reality of the situation. In this case, famous last words mean people you love will die. I'm not saying that to cause fear. I'm saying that's what WILL happen if this virus is not kept in check. Is that what you want? Anyway, I'm not going to hold your hand in all of this. You clearly don't understand the situation we're in and I feel that even if I gave you 30 articles on this subject, you'd still be in some form of denial. Stay safe dude. I know this likely isn't what you want and you're likely frustrated with this whole thing, but stay safe. Err on the side of caution because it's the people who think this whole thing is "fear mongering" who will ultimately kill more people unfortunately. don't be patronizing it is stupid i have elderly parents who i do not presently see your emotional nonsense does not help i follow the bc authorities updates i don't need 30 articles from the internet to confuse things not sure why you think mass information not properly distilled is helpful the reality is the virus is controlled and tracked so we have accomplished the initial necessary step let's take the next one 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Just now, Me_ said: You are right. However, this is very early in the game and flouting protocol is nothing short of criminal in many instances. Now you got some ideas on how to get out of this, please be my guess in spreading the goods and helping out. Or even copyright or patent the thing and start it up. But seriously, advocating going out is the stupidest thing anyone could do right now. you are spit balling going out is safe walk and get exercise it is good for your health Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, coastal.view said: don't be patronizing it is stupid i have elderly parents who i do not presently see your emotional nonsense does not help i follow the bc authorities updates i don't need 30 articles from the internet to confuse things not sure why you think mass information not properly distilled is helpful the reality is the virus is controlled and tracked so we have accomplished the initial necessary step let's take the next one Except it isn't. We don't actually know how many people have it. We just know there are less known cases per day at the moment, which is great, but that's far from controlled. Perhaps that's the mistake you're making? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, coastal.view said: going out is safe walk and get exercise it is good for your health Agreed. Too bad others are not reading your posts quite accurately, they seem to have this idea you are going to play tonsil hockey with everyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, The Lock said: Except it isn't. We don't actually know how many people have it. We just know there are less known cases per day at the moment, which is great, but that's far from controlled. Perhaps that's the mistake you're making? not sure if you are clear on what the mandate or goal was it was to flatten the curve of the pandemic out break to get on top of things and track infections this is all in place there is no plan or illusion that these steps we will stop infections but the steps that have been taken have done what they were intended to do a vaccine will be helpful and will get us back to normal i have not been advocating going back to normal presently there is no guarantee that a vaccine will be easily developed this virus is sars2, they still have not developed a vaccine for sars the vaccine narrative might be a bit optimistic Edited April 13, 2020 by coastal.view 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, coastal.view said: you are spit balling going out is safe walk and get exercise it is good for your health I wouldn’t spit on anything right now... Going out is safe yes. If you can be down wind, away from cyclists, runners, and the others who may be within 30 feet of you. Sure. I’ll listen to what everyone else with authority on the matter is also saying; not just one Doctor. If a doctor tells you you have cancer, that’s it? You don’t look for another opinion? And a third? If a doctor tells you to go out and ten others tell you not to, are you still going to go out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, coastal.view said: not sure if you are clear on what the mandate or goal was it was to flatten the curve of the pandemic out break to get on top of things and track infections this is all in place there is no plan or illusion that these steps we will stop infections but the steps that have been taken have done what they were intended to do a vaccine will be helpful and will get us back to normal i have not been advocating going back to normal presently this is not black and white there is middle ground Except you're using words like "control" in this. Flattening does not mean we have "control" either. It means we are taking the right measures. It also means we shouldn't let up just because we think we are in the clear. The more we do now, the better. That's the point of all of it. In my opinion, what you are suggesting will unflatten that curve. That's why I'm against your idea. I think it makes us go the other way back to what it was like a couple of weeks ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, coastal.view said: not sure if you are clear on what the mandate or goal was it was to flatten the curve of the pandemic out break to get on top of things and track infections this is all in place there is no plan or illusion that these steps we will stop infections but the steps that have been taken have done what they were intended to do a vaccine will be helpful and will get us back to normal i have not been advocating going back to normal presently this is not black and white there is middle ground Flattening the curve doesn’t necessarily mean less dead; it means easing the strain on our medical system. Flattening the curve lengthens the curve. Self-isolation and social distancing causes less dead. STAY HOME UNLESS NECESSARY. Real simple Bud. Edited April 13, 2020 by Me_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 People in Canada are gathering in the streets to protest the lockdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Me_ said: I wouldn’t spit on anything right now... Going out is safe yes. If you can be down wind, away from cyclists, runners, and the others who may be within 30 feet of you. Sure. I’ll listen to what everyone else with authority on the matter is also saying; not just one Doctor. If a doctor tells you you have cancer, that’s it? You don’t look for another opinion? And a third? If a doctor tells you to go out and ten others tell you not to, are you still going to go out? you do understand dr henry is the spokesperson for the medical profession for the bc center for disease control you pretend she is acting in isolation why do you need to engage in this manner of misinformation? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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