bree2 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 4 hours ago, coastal.view said: you have this incredible need to insist on your narrative it is stupid dr. henry is an expert in the field of viruses and epidemics she has been involved in major outbreaks globally in her career she was hired on febuary 1 by the province of bc to steer our efforts and be the public spokesperson she has ongoing consultation with all the key medical people in the province bc in fact is a world leader on virus issues attempting to minimize her or the provincial efforts by saying we are 1 of hundreds simply is you displaying your ignorance dr. henry is a global expert she does not work in isolation bc has expertise that is top tier globally and in bc they are focused on how the virus acts locally, not in china or anywhere else there is no one else from any other country that has more expertise about what is going on in bc with this pandemic then dr. henry and her colleagues you can bank on that but i'm sure you will still try to undermine this so just do your thing i will not longer respond to your posts your stubborn approach is just too revealing about your agenda one which is not founded on fact finding or truth seeking I like dr. henry, she has been very calming to British Columbians, but I don't believe the whole story is being told. She talks how people are doing a good job of social distancing and staying home, yet parents are still letting their children play in parks. people are still have parties. but most of what bothers me is that BC does not do enough testing, and I believe the numbers here are low because of that. more testing needs to be done to get the real numbers. other provinces are somewhat doing it, why can't BC do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapefruits Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Oh man. I just love the hypocrisy in all of this. People head to the cottage in BC on Vancouver Island and people freak the F out. Trudeau basically does the same and the same people defend him. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Grapefruits said: Oh man. I just love the hypocrisy in all of this. People head to the cottage in BC on Vancouver Island and people freak the F out. Trudeau basically does the same and the same people defend him. Not everyone is able to take advantage of taxpayers money like pretty boy (he didn't fly commercial) ....but I seriously doubt anybody would give two ****'s if people swam over to Vancouver Island. Seems like the amount of actual traffic was overblown according to the provincial government in any event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustbin Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, stawns said: They're open, but for how long? That's what they're saying will likely happen here too. We'll ease off, numbers will go up, we'll isolate.......numbers go down, we ease off............numbers go up, we isolate again. Rinse and repeat They'veh had108 new cases and 6 death........the most since March 12. Though they're saying it's all imported and no community transmission.......though that'll be just a matter of time. China wont be closing down again. I'd bet on that. Do you really think they care about old and infirm enough? They probably shut down Wuhan because of uncertainty at the time. I want restaurants and small business to be free to reopen. People know the risks and the businesses should be able to compete to show how they can protect their customers. Life must go on, unless we are ready to give up on free enterprise. I suppose many would be anxious for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, Grapefruits said: Oh man. I just love the hypocrisy in all of this. People head to the cottage in BC on Vancouver Island and people freak the F out. Trudeau basically does the same and the same people defend him. I think its all crap but whatever. If people are going to break rules they are going to break rules. I don't see how Trudeau traveling to see the wife and kids in another province is any better than me taking the wife and kid to go visit my parents down the road for easter. Its still combining 2 groups that were already seperate. Yes I feel for Trudeau being away from the wife and kids, I know I would be missing them and want to be with if I was in his position, but when you lay out guidelines and tell people to follow them then essentially do opposite of what you say its sort of hard to take serious. But it is what it is, I will continue to not see my parents and they wont get to see their grandson for the time being. Don't like seeing all the travel that happened on the ferries on the weekend, listened to CBC radio and the Princeton mayor was saying their only grocery store got wiped out by travelers when they had enough stock for the community before so its unfortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 43 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Actually there is a few stories on it. Canadas top doctor told Canadians not to head to their cottages. Pretty ridiculous, brings his whole family on a plane funded by tax payers during a pandemic no less. Canada's top doctor told Canadians not to. Actually it's not just opinion pieces. Trudeau and Scheer, do as we say not as we do. Honestly it's not a big deal to me but I can certainly understand why people get annoyed with politcians/government. I guess in fairness like the article said they would have flown commercial anyways and most likely on tax payers dime regardless, being able to by pass that and get on a plane already on route without other stops might have been the cheaper/safer way? I don't know, they probably could have stayed home but I guess as long as they are staying in Ottawa long term now then it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, Dustbin said: China wont be closing down again. I'd bet on that. Do you really think they care about old and infirm enough? They probably shut down Wuhan because of uncertainty at the time. I want restaurants and small business to be free to reopen. People know the risks and the businesses should be able to compete to show how they can protect their customers. Life must go on, unless we are ready to give up on free enterprise. I suppose many would be anxious for this. I agree, things will open up eventually, but we're a long way from that. And it's not just the elderly and infirmed who will die if we ease off and it flairs up.........we know that from everywhere that's had a serious outbreak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.Ironman Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 25 minutes ago, Grapefruits said: Oh man. I just love the hypocrisy in all of this. People head to the cottage in BC on Vancouver Island and people freak the F out. Trudeau basically does the same and the same people defend him. The difference is that the Trudeau family was probably all tested prior to the gathering, not that that makes it right. It was no doubt a short sighted move from a political POV and is hypocritical of the gov's message but in reality they wouldn't have met without the reassurance that they were all negative, a luxury we don't have. The danger is in the movement of the populace, not an isolated (likely pre tested) family. The optics are bad though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Russ said: I guess in fairness like the article said they would have flown commercial anyways and most likely on tax payers dime regardless, being able to by pass that and get on a plane already on route without other stops might have been the cheaper/safer way? I don't know, they probably could have stayed home but I guess as long as they are staying in Ottawa long term now then it is what it is. I did read that but still the optics look bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 33 minutes ago, Grapefruits said: Oh man. I just love the hypocrisy in all of this. People head to the cottage in BC on Vancouver Island and people freak the F out. Trudeau basically does the same and the same people defend him. It's getting to the point where you can't even have a discussion with Trudeau supporters without the blatant hypocrisy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, I.Am.Ironman said: The difference is that the Trudeau family was probably all tested prior to the gathering, not that that makes it right. It was no doubt a short sighted move from a political POV and is hypocritical of the gov's message but in reality they wouldn't have met without the reassurance that they were all negative, a luxury we don't have. The danger is in the movement of the populace, not an isolated (likely pre tested) family. The optics are bad though. According to the Prime Minister he has not been tested. Is he lying? Canada's top doctor told Canadians to stay away from their cottages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, stawns said: I agree, things will open up eventually, but we're a long way from that. And it's not just the elderly and infirmed who will die if we ease off and it flairs up.........we know that from everywhere that's had a serious outbreak. The Alberta government said things will remain the same until at least the end of May. I called the city today to ask if confederation park was open, it was they said just practice social distancing. Admittedly I haven't been out much, just drinking instead. Let me tell you there was a few people completely oblivious and walk right next to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Just now, Ryan Strome said: The Alberta government said things will remain the same until at least the end of May. I called the city today to ask if confederation park was open, it was they said just practice social distancing. Admittedly I haven't been out much, just drinking instead. Let me tell you there was a few people completely oblivious and walk right next to you. I find not wearing any deordorant solves that problem. Save money on buying less of that item AND people stay further away from me. Win-Win scenario! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Not everyone is able to take advantage of taxpayers money like pretty boy (he didn't fly commercial) ....but I seriously doubt anybody would give two ****'s if people swam over to Vancouver Island. Seems like the amount of actual traffic was overblown according to the provincial government in any event. According to Tam(spelling?) The biggest reason was due to the fact of going to cottages was the resources wouldn't be in certain locations to help people, or at least that's the comments I caught from her. But let's be honest the PM and his family will always have a health detail which in some ways makes this look worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 minute ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: I find not wearing any deordorant solves that problem. Save money on buying less of that item AND people stay further away from me. Win-Win scenario! I just cough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 49 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: WWE was declared an "essential service/business" in Florida. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustbin Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, stawns said: I agree, things will open up eventually, but we're a long way from that. And it's not just the elderly and infirmed who will die if we ease off and it flairs up.........we know that from everywhere that's had a serious outbreak. I guess nothing is impossible. In New York so far 26 of the 6200 deaths were people under 45 with no underlying condition (this would not include morbid obesity which is a big risk factor). No one under 17 has died. Is there a place where young healthy people are shown to be at risk? https://gothamist.com/news/coronavirus-statistics-tracking-epidemic-new-york Edited April 14, 2020 by Dustbin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.Ironman Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: According to the Prime Minister he has not been tested. Is he lying? Canada's top doctor told Canadians to stay away from their cottages. Probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 31 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: It's getting to the point where you can't even have a discussion with Trudeau supporters without the blatant hypocrisy. I heard he is at 74% approval right now. People love him, it's not surprising if you find a lot that are defensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 A northeastern China province is reporting increasing cases of coronavirus Tue 14 Apr 2020 00:23:14 GMT Heilongjiang province borders Russia and is reporting increasing numbers of COVID-19 cases. Suifenhe is a city in the Heilongjiang province, it has strengthened its border controls with Russia and is building a temporary hospital. On the 9th of April China state media reported 40 new confirmed COVID-19 cases in the province. Today they are reporting 79 new cases. Citing the cases as 'imported'. FWIW. This is worth watching developments as a potential second wave hotspot in China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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