HighOnHockey Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 1:12 AM, N4ZZY said: I think the lessons are learned by now, that if you select a smaller player, they better have some elite level skills that they’re offering. Does Savoie, Kemell, Nazar, Cooley offer high end elite level skills despite their size? If they do, and they’re available, then we choose that player. I also think Nemec and Jiricek both are gone, if not within the top five, then for sure in the top ten. They’ll definitely be gone by the time we pick. I think Savoie and Kemell fall somewhat under the same rubric as guys like Lysell and Perfetti. Immensely skilled, but the combination of size and lack of pro-translatable games will mean both fall a little ways down the draft board. Cooley is a much more pro-style player, but probably slightly less purely skilled than Kemell or Savoie. To me, as a naive fan, Nazar looks like the best of the bunch, but word on the street from real hockey people is he isn't exactly the most athletic prospect or a beast in the gym. He's an excellent skater based on technical ability, but nowhere near Savoie's level of explosiveness. I caught the Djurgardens game yesterday morning, and I'm going to go out on a limb a little bit and say Lekkerimaki actually deserves to be right there in the conversation with the previously mentioned four, in terms of small forwards. I was already really impressed with his performance at Hlinkas, but I'm blown away by how well he has already adapted to the SHL level. Looks to me like one of the higher IQ players in the draft. He's already outfoxing SHL defensemen on the forecheck, forcing them into sticky situations. Tracks and supports the puck very well, almost to a fault at times, where he is kinda stepping on his linemates' heels. Another one of these kids who is using the 10-2 skating technique in interesting and innovative ways; for a pure goal-scorer like Lekkerimaki, the ability to explode laterally the way he can is invaluable for unexpectedly moving into open spaces. I'm going to have to watch more from him because I think there are some tools there to move him up even past number 12 where Bob's mid-season list had him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyGuy123 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Ryan Chesley please. Seems like a Weber like pick and projected mid/later first. I can see this guy blowing up next year and be a big riser. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Cutter Gauthier (fast power forward with good hands and release) and Jonathan Lekkerimäki (responsible right handed center with a great shot) could be two interesting players available near our pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 8:30 AM, HighOnHockey said: I think Savoie and Kemell fall somewhat under the same rubric as guys like Lysell and Perfetti. Immensely skilled, but the combination of size and lack of pro-translatable games will mean both fall a little ways down the draft board. Cooley is a much more pro-style player, but probably slightly less purely skilled than Kemell or Savoie. To me, as a naive fan, Nazar looks like the best of the bunch, but word on the street from real hockey people is he isn't exactly the most athletic prospect or a beast in the gym. He's an excellent skater based on technical ability, but nowhere near Savoie's level of explosiveness. I caught the Djurgardens game yesterday morning, and I'm going to go out on a limb a little bit and say Lekkerimaki actually deserves to be right there in the conversation with the previously mentioned four, in terms of small forwards. I was already really impressed with his performance at Hlinkas, but I'm blown away by how well he has already adapted to the SHL level. Looks to me like one of the higher IQ players in the draft. He's already outfoxing SHL defensemen on the forecheck, forcing them into sticky situations. Tracks and supports the puck very well, almost to a fault at times, where he is kinda stepping on his linemates' heels. Another one of these kids who is using the 10-2 skating technique in interesting and innovative ways; for a pure goal-scorer like Lekkerimaki, the ability to explode laterally the way he can is invaluable for unexpectedly moving into open spaces. I'm going to have to watch more from him because I think there are some tools there to move him up even past number 12 where Bob's mid-season list had him. I'm higher on Savoie than most people, If I have the #2 pick im selecting him at the moment. For me he is the most skilled player in the draft hands down and whoever takes him I dont think will regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHockey Posted February 3, 2022 Author Share Posted February 3, 2022 Kemell pointless in his last seven games now. As I said a while back, his numbers were looking extraordinary but it was a small sample size; would only take a short dry spell for things to level out. 18 in 23 is still excellent for a 17 year old in that league, but not so unheard of as it was looking for him. Pleased to say I was one of the few who didn't bite on the hot start. I think I still had him at 10 on my last list. As I mentioned before, I've seen kid since YOGs, and again at U18s and Hlinkas. Of all the elite-skilled forward at the top of this draft, for my money Kemell is the least pro-translatable. Savoie has his issues as well, but Savoie has the huge advantage of being an absolutely elite, explosive skater, which will always go a long way in the NHL. Kemell is a good skater in his own right, but he is just way too cute with the puck, and although his hands are very good, I'm not convinced they're quick enough to be able to execute the way he'll need to at the highest level. I don't see him falling much further than 10 for me, but Lekkerimaki is surging in my estimation, and there's only room for so many of these small forwards in the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HighOnHockey Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 I love these sequences of top prospects head-to-head. Here shorthanded Miroshnichenko intercepts Slafkovsky's seam pass, puts a move on Nemec, and creates a shorthanded goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 8:18 AM, HighOnHockey said: I love these sequences of top prospects head-to-head. Here shorthanded Miroshnichenko intercepts Slafkovsky's seam pass, puts a move on Nemec, and creates a shorthanded goal. Wow, his speed is so good on that sequence. What's the latest on Miro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHockey Posted February 7, 2022 Author Share Posted February 7, 2022 4 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said: Wow, his speed is so good on that sequence. What's the latest on Miro? I'm a huge fan, but the variance of opinion on him is wild. On Bob's mid-season list he was the only player other than Wright to get a 1st place vote, but was also the only player in the top ten to get a vote outside the first round. He was just heating up but hasn't played in a couple weeks. Not sure what's going on there. Had 5 goals in last 4 games though. I watched a couple of those and looks like he's starting to belong. Still not so much looking like the power forward he should be, but he's getting involved in the play, getting around the net, using his speed and his shot. Still tends to defer to veteran linemates as far as holding on to the puck and making plays, but he wants to be the one taking shots. Starting to win some battles in the corners, protecting the puck pretty well. Hasn't had the wow factor in the stats or on the ice I was hoping for this year, but he's coming along. VHL is a strong league; at least as good as Czech and German leagues. He's still number two by some margin for me. I'm trying to put together tiers: tier I - Shane Wright tier II - Ivan Miroshnichenko tier III - Juraj Slafkovsky, Simon Nemec, Danila Yurov, Matthew Savoie, David Jiricek, Frank Nazar, Jonathan Lekkerimaki, Joakim Kemell, Conor Geekie, Brad Lambert tier IV - Kevin Korchinsky, Tristan Luneau, Marco Kasper, Cutter Gauthier, Seamus Casey, Jimmy Snuggerud, Gleb Trikozov, Denton Mateychuk, Pavel Mintyukov, Ty Nelson, Rutger McGroarty, Alexander Perevalov, Liam Ohgren, Owen Beck, Owen Pickering 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) Jonathan Lekkerimaki - 5' 11" 172lb He looks like one of the top goal scorers in the draft. Cutter Gauthier - 6' 3" 193 lb Another good scorer. Edited February 8, 2022 by appleboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Sitting home with covid. So I decided to rank the players by position. C 1 Wright 2 Cooley (Maybe an NHL winger) 3 Savoie (Maybe an NHL winger) 4 Beck 5 Geekie 6 Kaspar 7 Gaucher 8 Del Bel Beluz 9 McGroarty 10 Kulich HM* Bystedt HM* Lorenz Haven't seen much of him but I like what I see kid plays like half the game in all situations he's clearly way out of the AJHL's league. Possible big time sleeper pick. W 1 Yurov 2 Kemell 3 Lambert 4 Miroschnichenko 5 Slafkovski 6 Nyman 7 Trikozov 8 Nazar 9 Gauthier 10 Lekkerimaki HM* Gazizov RHD I'll take as many of these guys as we have picks. 1 Nemec 2 Jiricek 3 Chesley 4 Luneau 5 Lamoureux 6 Salomonson 7 Nelson 8 Casey 9 Salin 10 Havelid HM* Noah Warren LHD all about the big boi's 1 Pickering 2 Bichsel 3 Korchinski 4 Forsmark 5 Mintyukov 6 Mateychuk 7 Duda 8 Odelius after this meh 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) Ty Nelson lets a wrister go and cracks a puck in half. What would the call have been if half of it went in? Edited February 9, 2022 by hammertime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 On 2/9/2022 at 3:42 PM, hammertime said: Ty Nelson lets a wrister go and cracks a puck in half. What would the call have been if half of it went in? The ruling has always been that the entire puck has to definitively cross the line for a goal, so I expect half a puck going in would still be a no goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 5 hours ago, theo5789 said: The ruling has always been that the entire puck has to definitively cross the line for a goal, so I expect half a puck going in would still be a no goal. I always thought they went with the larger half. Surely they don't call off goals if there's a chip missing out of the puck right? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Is there any College UFA's that can cheaply fill in spots for the club? Not that we should be relying on them. But free prospects are always good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 6 hours ago, 73 Percent said: I always thought they went with the larger half. Surely they don't call off goals if there's a chip missing out of the puck right? Goals determined by weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 8 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Goals determined by weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, hammertime said: See the previous comment on a puck has a chip off of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 8 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Is there any College UFA's that can cheaply fill in spots for the club? Not that we should be relying on them. But free prospects are always good. I would be all over Marc McLaughlin. 6' 205 C Captain of Boston College. Defensive C pk specialist. Won best defensive forward last year with 3 shorties to boot. he's got 24 points in 25 games this year let's get this guy signed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: See the previous comment on a puck has a chip off of it. It was a vague pushin weight ice cube reference. Made sense only in my head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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