Popular Post -Vintage Canuck- Posted November 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2021 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 minute ago, NUCKER67 said: Who's coming out of the lineup? Hopefully Chiasson, and not Podkolzin Or Bailey. Skates super fast and that’s it. Well that’s one thing better then Chiasson. So ya hopefully Chiasson. Also if we need PKers we should be training Podz in that department. He was amazing at that at the WJC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Vancouver Canucks at Anaheim Ducks 8:00 PM EST REFEREES Ghislain Hebert #22 Brian Pochmara #16 Games ’21-22 12 13 Games ’20-21 (Reg/PO) 51 / 0 49 / 15 Career Games (Reg/PO) 713 / 0 963 / 57 First NHL Game 3/3/09 12/23/05 Birthplace Bathurst, NB Detroit, MI Goals/Gm 5.8 (21) 5.3 (41) PP/Gm 3.1 (12) 2.9 (22) Penl/Gm 3.6 (16) 3.4 (26) PIM/Gm 8.3 (18) 8.1 (22) % of Penl on Home 52.0% (2) 49.0% (20) More Penl on Rd % -7.0% (36) 6.0% (15) Home Win % 57.0% (14) 61.0% (5) Home Rec. 29-22 30-19 OT/SO Games 29.0% (7) 33.0% (4) Calls by Period 1st 2nd 3rd 1st 2nd 3rd 2019-20 29% 41% 29% 30% 39% 31% Team Records 19-20 18-19 17-18 19-20 18-19 17-18 VAN 3-0 2-3 1-3 1-6 0-2 2-4 ANA 2-3 5-2 4-1 2-2 3-1 3-0 LINESMEN Kiel Murchison #79 CJ Murray #68 Games ’21-22 13 7 Games ’20-21 (Reg/PO) 51 / 12 0 / 0 Career Games (Reg/PO) 604 / 46 7 / 0 First NHL Game 1/21/13 10/14/21 Birthplace Cloverdale, BC Pittsburgh, PA Are you kidding me? Hebert was one of the 2 pieces of trash who worked last game, and got called out by Green for completely disgracing the sport. How does the NHL seriously not see the problem with assigning him to another Vancouver game the very next night? Benning needs to step up and publicly demand a veto process for problem officials. This is ****ing ridiculous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bishopshodan Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Awesome to see Motter. Also, why does everything have to be in slow mo these days? I think it is rubbing off on our PK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 45 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: I'm eating your cat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) With all the speculation that Miller is the “alpha dog” that’s not buying in to Greens systems it just strengthens the argument for a new coach. Lots of great teams had alpha dogs. Guess what though? They had a coach that was an even bigger alpha dog. That’s what good coaches do. They command respect and bring a presence in the room that even the biggest “alpha dog” player adheres to. Green is not a coach that comes into the room with a presence. He comes in and gives the same tired bullet points he reads off a sheet of paper. The next coach of this team needs to be someone that speaks with passion and that the players listen to because they’ve earned respect. Coaches like Boudreau and Babcock are those types of leaders. Edited November 14, 2021 by DeNiro 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleyCupOneDay Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) Before complaining about certain forwards people should actually take a look at the most important numbers: the points per game. These are our forwards stats. Miller 25th in NHL 1.13 PPG on pace 93 pts Garland 82nd in NHL .80 PPG on pace 66 pts Horvat 120th in NHL .67 PPG on pace 55 pts Boeser 121st in NHL .67 PPG on pace 44 pts Pettersson 151st in NHL .60 PPG on pace 49 pts Höglander 176th in NHL .53 PPG on pace 44 pts Pearson 233rd in NHL .40 PPG on pace 33 pts Long drop back after that, which is a weakness for us. Ideally you want 1st guy top 32 check 2nd guy top 64 nope 3rd guy top 96 nope 4th guy top 128 check 5th guy top 161 check 6th guy top 193 check 7th guy top 225 nope By the numbers we have 2 players underperforming compared to last season, Boeser and Pettersson. To look at it as a cup half full Boeser and Petterson aren’t playing that well yet still are putting up 45-50 points, which isn’t nothing, so just imagine what they’d be like if/when they return to form. Pearson’s never been a point getter, that’s not his game and at $3m shouldn’t be expected to either, he’s solid for 30-40 points a season. I think it’s likely Podkolzin overtakes Pearson and gets top 225 sooner then later the way he’s playing anyways. Please for the love of god DO NOT TRADE MILLER. Imagine what the team would look like without him right now. Edited November 14, 2021 by StanleyCupOneDay 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Hunt in again should guarantee another L too, so one step closer to getting rid of Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax- Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 39 minutes ago, Alflives said: Foresberg was way better than Sakic. He played the game tough and was skilled. Much better and way more complete player. Little Joe can suck an egg. Foresberg was an amazing player, But Sakic is pure red and white CANADIAN baby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Hunt in again should guarantee another L too, so one step closer to getting rid of Green. I mean whether it’s Hunt or Rathbone doesn’t really matter. That bottom pair would be weak regardless. Still don’t understand why they broke up the one pair that worked in OEL and Myers. Leave them together and put Bowey with Hughes. You gotta spread out the talent otherwise that third pair just gets feasted on. OEL Myers Hughes Bowey Hunt Burroughs Not pretty but at least you avoid the Hunt/Bowey pairing. Can spread the minutes a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Burroughs, Bailey, Rathbone and Lammikko still need to get their 1st point of the season. Dickinson and Poolman with only 1 point each? Canucks need more from all of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax- Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Just now, DeNiro said: I mean whether it’s Hunt or Rathbone doesn’t really matter. That bottom pair would be weak regardless. Still don’t understand why they broke up the one pair that worked in OEL and Myers. Leave them together and put Bowey with Hughes. You gotta spread out the talent otherwise that third pair just gets feasted on. OEL Myers Hughes Bowey Hunt Burroughs Not pretty but at least you avoid the Hunt/Bowey pairing. Can spread the minutes a little better. That Defense is........,.. OEL and Huggy are going to be tired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, RWJC said: If Green is canned and Shaw made interim, the absolute first thing FA (not Benning, FA) should do is hold court with the players and find out what each player wants out of the next coaching staff. What they see as a best fit. I say FA should do that because he’s already a very involved owner, and if he wants to keep certain guys satisfied (like Bo - whom he wants to define the Canucks brand), he’s going to need straight up, unfiltered answers from the players themselves to determine and basically relay to the GM who or what to hire as an effective coaching staff. JB has had his run with it. FA has to protect his investment in the roster now. It’s a good one. More importantly, when the guy who signs your paycheque is asking you directly what this team needs, that immediately then puts the responsibility onto the players to perform post coaching change. There is no more excuse at that point. Right now, it seems as though everything has devolved into placing the majority of the problems on Green’s plate. I hear the players articulate post game, but hot air rises. Green’s taken his fair share of abuse, and rightfully so, but he’s also the scapegoat for some poor individual performances. A new coach would essentially be process of elimination. A new coach would eliminate for certainty that coaching is a main issue. If the players cannot perform under a new coach then we probably can't have significant success with the group of players as it is. The fault would fall on the players for not performing but also on JB for not being able to put together a group that can have success. In which case a soft rebuild may be the best course of action. We have enough young talent to do so. Keep the young players like Petey/Demko/Hughes/Hog/Pod/Rathbone and maybe Boeser. Initially trade away the veterans like Horvat/Miller/Pearson maybe Boeser in order to net a solid return of high picks, good prospects and/or a young NHLer with promise. Look to trade other vets afterwards(Poolman/Hamonic//Myers?/etc maybe Garland/OEL too but they might be worth sticking around). Have a 2 year phase of garnering young talent and begin to build the roster off what you'd have at that point. We'd definite be absolute crap without Horvat and Miller for a time but you'd look to add solid veterans after the soft-rebuild phase to fill those holes and you'd have young talent knocking on the door at that point as well. These next two drafts present a good opportunity to do it if this team proves incapable as a whole, especially if we may draft top 10 again. Without Miller/Horvat we'd probably be looking at top 5. Like I said though that should be the last option when we've exhausted all others. Hopefully it does not get to that point but I would want us to be prepared if it does. Edited November 14, 2021 by Junkyard Dog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taphouse Canuck Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, Devron44 said: Or Bailey. Skates super fast and that’s it. Well that’s one thing better then Chiasson. So ya hopefully Chiasson. Also if we need PKers we should be training Podz in that department. He was amazing at that at the WJC Isn't it better that he doesn't learn our PK system, which is absolutely crap. Maybe when a new coach is hired........? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, DeNiro said: I mean whether it’s Hunt or Rathbone doesn’t really matter. That bottom pair would be weak regardless. Still don’t understand why they broke up the one pair that worked in OEL and Myers. Leave them together and put Bowey with Hughes. You gotta spread out the talent otherwise that third pair just gets feasted on. OEL Myers Hughes Bowey Hunt Burroughs Not pretty but at least you avoid the Hunt/Bowey pairing. Can spread the minutes a little better. Rathbone is way less of a liability in his own zone than Hunt, and has some hope of developing into an NHLer. I can understand wanting to get him away from Baumgartner, bu t we still would be better off dressing an extra forward instead of a defenseman who can't play defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ajax- said: That Defense is........,.. OEL and Huggy are going to be tired Not if the coach is smart and doesn’t want to burn them out (unlikely) Roll three pairs for better or worse. If either of those two sustain injury because they’re being overplayed our seasons done. Edited November 14, 2021 by DeNiro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Taphouse Canuck said: Isn't it better that he doesn't learn our PK system, which is absolutely crap. Maybe when a new coach is hired........? Very very good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: Not if the coach is smart and doesn’t want to burn them out (unlikely) Roll three pairs for better or worse. If either of those two sustain injury because they’re being overplayed our seasons done. Then maybe he should be playing a third pairing that can play instead of letting Hunt stink up the joint again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houdini Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Beefcake said: Is this the Jim Benning and Travis Green fairwell party tonight ? You know the Canucks are going to squeak out a win somehow and all will be good again, just like a hundred times before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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