hammertime Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, Alflives said: Maybe Kuzmenko only wants to move once? Which team can offer him the fit he desires and pay him what he wants with his next contract? With the Coilers it will be one and done. With us he would have a spot with the group going forward, especially after we dump Garland. Why do you want to "move" Garland? This team needs more players who play with his exuberance. He sets a good example with his hard nosed play and effectiveness 5v5. Draws a ton of penalties too. 5v5 (he doesn't play PP) judge him on the mins he plays he is 31st in league scoring for under 5m be crazy to move him for anything less than a home run. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, combover said: I saw that Gar for Mar on hockey news feed a few weeks back . I don’t know if getting Kuz or not will change that. MIller is going to be to expensive so I doubt he’s here after august regardless. hopfully we can add speed size throughout the line up this summer so we aren’t just pushed aside constantly. When guys like highmore are being praised for bouncing off and falling down on the 4th line forecheck it’s a clear indicator for the total lack of physicality this team has. You have an unreasonable hate on for Highmore. Look at Brandon Hagel, he's a very similar (but better) version of Highmore. The days of icing an entire fourth line of tough guys is gone. Highmore has been very effective and plays on the PK. I do agree that we need to get one or two bigger guys but getting rid of one or our best bottom 6 guys is not the way forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, Alflives said: I think the plan is to move Garland once we sign Kuzmenko. Wasn’t there lots of chatter about Garland for Marino, or was that just us on CDC? Maybe Kuzmenko signs and we trade Miller for Kravstov + Kakko? Lots of changes coming, and signing Kuzmenko could be the opening act. Is Kuzmenko and upgrade on Garland? Cheeper yes for now but better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 minute ago, hammertime said: Why do you want to "move" Garland? This team needs more players who play with his exuberance. He sets a good example with his hard nosed play and effectiveness 5v5. Draws a ton of penalties too. 5v5 (he doesn't play PP) judge him on the mins he plays he is 31st in league scoring for under 5m be crazy to move him for anything less than a home run. Because when we sign Kuzmenko and trade Miller for Kravstov and Kakko and sign Boeser we can trade Garland from a position of strength. He can bring us a much needed right shot D. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, hammertime said: Is Kuzmenko and upgrade on Garland? Cheeper yes for now but better? I don’t think Kuzmenko is an upgrade on Garland. Garland is very good and on a good contract. But, we will have an abundance of wingers, and his value could return help on D. Imagine a return on Garland like what Tampa got (was that Yzerboy?) for Drouin? And signing Kuzmenko can start all that happening. Edited June 19, 2022 by Alflives 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: You have an unreasonable hate on for Highmore. Look at Brandon Hagel, he's a very similar (but better) version of Highmore. The days of icing an entire fourth line of tough guys is gone. Highmore has been very effective and plays on the PK. I do agree that we need to get one or two bigger guys but getting rid of one or our best bottom 6 guys is not the way forward. I think the issue with Highmore is and don't get me wrong I quite like him is that he's not really a player built for his role. So him over performing expectations is still likely less effective than many other players in a similar $$ bracket performing at their par in the role he plays. Sam Carrik for example just signed 2 years $850 Highmore on his best game doesn't fill his boots on his average game. Edited June 19, 2022 by hammertime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: You have an unreasonable hate on for Highmore. Look at Brandon Hagel, he's a very similar (but better) version of Highmore. The days of icing an entire fourth line of tough guys is gone. Highmore has been very effective and plays on the PK. I do agree that we need to get one or two bigger guys but getting rid of one or our best bottom 6 guys is not the way forward. Highmores hits are the equvilant of a bumble bee bouncing of. and most of the time he takes the worst of it.how durable was he last year again.(49gp) i rather have a third and fourth line that doesn’t fall down from the wind of other players. They don’t have to be goons of old, lammiko was good some size and speed. To beat the horse I doubt you’d find a gm that would put highmore in the 4th line over The two guys jbidoit threw away last summer. never question his heart but he’s and AHLer or call up depth at best on a good team. Edited June 19, 2022 by combover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, Alflives said: I don’t think Kuzmenko is an upgrade on Garland. Garland is very good and on a good contract. But, we will have an abundance of wingers, and his value could return help on D. Imagine a return on Garland like what Tampa got (was that Yzerboy?) for Drouin? And signing Kuzmenko can start all that happening. Sign me up for Garland for Sergachev 1 for 1 swap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 His 1st NHL goal and 1st as a Vancouver Canuck, scored by #96, Andrei Kuuuuuuuzmenkooo! Assisted by #40 Elias Pettersson and #43 Quinn Hughes. WOO! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 30 minutes ago, hammertime said: Sign me up for Garland for Sergachev 1 for 1 swap. If we land Kuzmenko I’m hoping JR can pull off a Garland trade than lands us a young version of Sergachev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rackdawg Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 hour ago, dontaylorforprez said: Did some of the bong water get sucked up after that last rip? Cause that’s some nutty Shizz you concocted there.. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 29 minutes ago, Alflives said: If we land Kuzmenko I’m hoping JR can pull off a Garland trade than lands us a young version of Sergachev. As much as I like Garland I doubt Brandt Clarke becomes available 1 for 1 even if we add Brock or whatever we get for Brock. I'm not sure what you have in mind but I think Miller is the only guy who get's us the value we want and at that I think we borrow from peter to pay Paul. And I'm not talking about Nick Paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, hammertime said: As much as I like Garland I doubt Brandt Clarke becomes available 1 for 1 even if we add Brock or whatever we get for Brock. I'm not sure what you have in mind but I think Miller is the only guy who get's us the value we want and at that I think we borrow from peter to pay Paul. And I'm not talking about Nick Paul I don’t have any young D in mind. But if we get Kuzmenko I’m hoping JR does, so Garland can bring in that player. I see Kuzmenko as a key to start the dominos falling. He signs, which allows JR to move Garland. Garland returns a young D. So JR can move Myers. And so on. Going to be fun as hell too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, hammertime said: As much as I like Garland I doubt Brandt Clarke becomes available 1 for 1 even if we add Brock or whatever we get for Brock. I'm not sure what you have in mind but I think Miller is the only guy who get's us the value we want and at that I think we borrow from peter to pay Paul. And I'm not talking about Nick Paul We need two top 4 RHD, so I think it is a couple moves. Probably one for a guy who can slide right in and another young guy or NHL ready prospect that can maybe be ready to take some minutes from Schenn. So a Miller trades brings in one of them and a Garland/Boeser trade brings in the other…. or failing on one of those moves, a veteran free agent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Provost said: We need two top 4 RHD, so I think it is a couple moves. Probably one for a guy who can slide right in and another young guy or NHL ready prospect that can maybe be ready to take some minutes from Schenn. So a Miller trades brings in one of them and a Garland/Boeser trade brings in the other…. or failing on one of those moves, a veteran free agent. And it likely takes two years to acquire the D JR is targeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Alflives said: I think the plan is to move Garland once we sign Kuzmenko. Wasn’t there lots of chatter about Garland for Marino, or was that just us on CDC? Maybe Kuzmenko signs and we trade Miller for Kravstov + Kakko? Lots of changes coming, and signing Kuzmenko could be the opening act. could be for sure, it could also be Hoglander? although they might want the cheapie contract Hog's can provide. Garland for Marino would be a solid move for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 minute ago, JM_ said: could be for sure, it could also be Hoglander? although they might want the cheapie contract Hog's can provide. Garland for Marino would be a solid move for us. I could see Garland for Marino providing Pit is able to keep Letang. Would Pit want Chaos Giraffe if Letang moves on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Just now, Alflives said: I could see Garland for Marino providing Pit is able to keep Letang. Would Pit want Chaos Giraffe if Letang moves on? Burkie likes his truculence. Garland and Myers for Marino and their 1st? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 minute ago, JM_ said: Burkie likes his truculence. Garland and Myers for Marino and their 1st? Clear 6 million in cap, add a top four RSD partner for OEL, and get another first. Please let this happen. Kuzmenk + Marino + a first added. Sounds excellent! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted June 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2022 So when does the Kuzi tour end? Will he be dining in any more fancy restaurants? Maybe Calgary can take him to Cactus Club. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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