HighOnHockey Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 9:13 AM, JM_ said: thanks thats a good explanation. So, for the same $ would you keep Pearson or sign Tierney? Oh Pearson by a damn sight, if they cost the same money. But I would imagine Pearson should get a fair amount more. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 10:04 AM, Provost said: Tierney or Paul would be great pick ups if they are on decent value deals. I do think that Dickenson could have a bit of a bounce back next year, but it would be prudent not to completely count on it and have another C ready to roll. You really can't have too many centres as most of them can play wing and slide over in case of injury or to take draws on their strong sides. I don't hold any numbers against a guy playing on a team like Ottawa, they made it clear that Tierney wasn't in their future for a couple of years and wanted to give the ice time to the kids. If he didn't get traded at the last couple deadline maybe it means there isn't a huge market for his services and a 1-2 year $2 million deal would do the trick. If we could keep Boeser and move out Hoglander with Dickenson... there could be roster spots to deepen the forward core. Petterson-Miller-Boeser Pearson-Horvat-Garland Paul-Tierney-Podkolzin Highmore-Lammikko-Lockwood Chiasson For the love of God, Pearson is not a second line player. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Sign low, perfect time. He's got the frame and skillset, has just been on a brutal team but he plays a hard game we need. See if we can low ball him for 2M x 3 years. Flip Dickinson for picks. Tierney is the perfect 3C who can play a defensive game and take shutdown responsibility from Bo. Play him with Chiasson and Hoglander and that's a pretty versatile line. The other options are Paul, Janmark and Jarnkrok but Tierney is relatively young and maybe a bit better at faceoffs and defensively. Almost like a poor man's Horvat which is perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 9 hours ago, Meh said: For the love of God, Pearson is not a second line player. He is on many teams still. I don’t know if you are aware… we aren’t a deep contending team, and won’t be for some time. Most teams end up with big duos on lines and then a complementary player. It is an artifact of the salary cap. They play on a line for 5v5 but get fewer minutes than their linemates because they don’t get all the prime special teams minutes. Burrows, Hansen, etc weren’t really top six players. They were complementary guys that were able to play those minutes without hurting you and/or have the ability to play with high skill guys. Same as Schenn isn’t a top 4 D man… but he plays with Hughes 5v5 because he complements him. They are on a pairing together but Hughes ends up with 25 minutes a night and Schenn plays 17 minutes a night. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 12 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Sign low, perfect time. He's got the frame and skillset, has just been on a brutal team but he plays a hard game we need. See if we can low ball him for 2M x 3 years. Flip Dickinson for picks. Tierney is the perfect 3C who can play a defensive game and take shutdown responsibility from Bo. Play him with Chiasson and Hoglander and that's a pretty versatile line. The other options are Paul, Janmark and Jarnkrok but Tierney is relatively young and maybe a bit better at faceoffs and defensively. Almost like a poor man's Horvat which is perfect. Would be great. I really think Dickinson is untradeable though... THAT SAID, they moved Hamonic so anything's possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted May 5, 2022 Author Share Posted May 5, 2022 12 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Sign low, perfect time. He's got the frame and skillset, has just been on a brutal team but he plays a hard game we need. See if we can low ball him for 2M x 3 years. Flip Dickinson for picks. Tierney is the perfect 3C who can play a defensive game and take shutdown responsibility from Bo. Play him with Chiasson and Hoglander and that's a pretty versatile line. The other options are Paul, Janmark and Jarnkrok but Tierney is relatively young and maybe a bit better at faceoffs and defensively. Almost like a poor man's Horvat which is perfect. He would be instant upgrade on Dickie for sure (even from Dickie's last year in Dallas), but I don't think it's gonna be as simple as flipping Dickie for picks. His value is very low right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/5/2022 at 7:40 AM, Provost said: He is on many teams still. I don’t know if you are aware… we aren’t a deep contending team, and won’t be for some time. Most teams end up with big duos on lines and then a complementary player. It is an artifact of the salary cap. They play on a line for 5v5 but get fewer minutes than their linemates because they don’t get all the prime special teams minutes. Burrows, Hansen, etc weren’t really top six players. They were complementary guys that were able to play those minutes without hurting you and/or have the ability to play with high skill guys. Same as Schenn isn’t a top 4 D man… but he plays with Hughes 5v5 because he complements him. They are on a pairing together but Hughes ends up with 25 minutes a night and Schenn plays 17 minutes a night. Agree to disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 8:43 AM, Googlie said: I'd rather bring Motte back at 2.5 than spend it on Tierney How many games did Motter get in with the NYR before he went down? I don't see him back/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Boudrias said: How many games did Motter get in with the NYR before he went down? I don't see him back/ Just played in 9 games ... zero points and a -1 in those games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/7/2022 at 3:48 AM, Boudrias said: How many games did Motter get in with the NYR before he went down? I don't see him back/ He's back in the lineup.... played last night in their 5 - 3 win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontaylorforprez Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/4/2022 at 10:00 PM, Meh said: For the love of God, Pearson is not a second line player. Agreed, third line at best.. but the bottom roles seem to be Pearson wheelhouse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWestNuck Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Since Pearson is more tradeable, does anyone see a situation where Pearson would be dealt and Dickinson ends up on tierney’s wing with hogz? Probably not ideal but maybe more realistic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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