Warhippy Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 On 11/15/2022 at 6:39 PM, HighOnHockey said: Who do you have in mind for '24? Obviously Kiviharju and Mews, but nobody else really jumps out at me as a clear top 10. I liked Danford and Parekh from the U17s games I watched. The couple Swedes are intriguing too, Olsson and Freij. But also, there's certain to be a couple defensemen end up going in the top 10 or 15 this year. Just a matter of figuring out who. Macklin Cellibrini I'd even draft his brother right now Aiden. Both Van boys, both come from good stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Warhippy said: Macklin Cellibrini I'd even draft his brother right now Aiden. Both Van boys, both come from good stock Im currently on the Macklin bandwagon. Radio was talking about how good he looked and him and Bedard are clearly kids inspired by the Vancouver Canucks led by the sedins. Imagine two drafts back to back first overalls from our area.. crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, R3aL said: Im currently on the Macklin bandwagon. Radio was talking about how good he looked and him and Bedard are clearly kids inspired by the Vancouver Canucks led by the sedins. Imagine two drafts back to back first overalls from our area.. crazy the league would see vancouver heading towards the bottom of the standings and absolutely change the rules 2 days before the lottery if Vancouver wins Bedard 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Warhippy said: the league would see vancouver heading towards the bottom of the standings and absolutely change the rules 2 days before the lottery if Vancouver wins Bedard Probably get a cap penalty too why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 minute ago, R3aL said: Probably get a cap penalty too why not With the first pick of the 2024 NHL Entry Draft, the league has penalized the Canucks who forfeit their pick and the selection will be made for picks 1 and 2 by the Arizona Bettma...err the Gary Coyotes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHockey Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Warhippy said: Macklin Cellibrini I'd even draft his brother right now Aiden. Both Van boys, both come from good stock 1 hour ago, R3aL said: Im currently on the Macklin bandwagon. Radio was talking about how good he looked and him and Bedard are clearly kids inspired by the Vancouver Canucks led by the sedins. Imagine two drafts back to back first overalls from our area.. crazy I caught a few games of the U17s. Lots to like about Celebrini but I don't know if I'd put him top 5 at this particular tournament. I would probably put the top 5 players as 1. James Hagens 2. Cole Eiserman 3. Henry Mews 4. Berkly Catton 5. Cole Hutson. But beyond that yeah Celebrini, Misa, Spence, Martone, Humphries would be the next tier. Celebrini and Spence might not have the skill or hockey IQ of a Hagens or Catton, but their size and power games will make them highly sought after by teams at the draft. Eiserman takes it to another level though; again not quite the same level of hockey IQ as Catton or Hagens, but his raw physical tools are unlike very many prospects we've seen in recent years - comparable to a Mirshnichenko or Matthews. For D, Hutson was phenomenal but not sure what kind of prospect he'll be at 5'8. Mews was unbelievable. I remember watching this tournament in 2019 and being in awe of Brandt Clarke, and I think Mews is even better. The combination of 200 foot hockey IQ, skill and physical presence is so rare. 8 points in 6 games and he threw some bone crunching hits. Kid is going to go very early in that draft. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 8 hours ago, HighOnHockey said: I caught a few games of the U17s. Lots to like about Celebrini but I don't know if I'd put him top 5 at this particular tournament. I would probably put the top 5 players as 1. James Hagens 2. Cole Eiserman 3. Henry Mews 4. Berkly Catton 5. Cole Hutson. But beyond that yeah Celebrini, Misa, Spence, Martone, Humphries would be the next tier. Celebrini and Spence might not have the skill or hockey IQ of a Hagens or Catton, but their size and power games will make them highly sought after by teams at the draft. Eiserman takes it to another level though; again not quite the same level of hockey IQ as Catton or Hagens, but his raw physical tools are unlike very many prospects we've seen in recent years - comparable to a Mirshnichenko or Matthews. For D, Hutson was phenomenal but not sure what kind of prospect he'll be at 5'8. Mews was unbelievable. I remember watching this tournament in 2019 and being in awe of Brandt Clarke, and I think Mews is even better. The combination of 200 foot hockey IQ, skill and physical presence is so rare. 8 points in 6 games and he threw some bone crunching hits. Kid is going to go very early in that draft. Isn't Misa 2025? What about Kiviharju? Isn't he the established top defenseman next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHockey Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Warhippy said: Isn't Misa 2025? What about Kiviharju? Isn't he the established top defenseman next year? Yeah Misa is 2025. So are James Hagens, Malcolm Spence and Jordan Gavin. But the latter are late birthday '06. Misa is the only one who was actually a full under-age. One of the better players at this tournament but not one of the very best. Comparing to other recent under-agers at this tournament Savoie and Wright, I thought Misa looked quite a bit better than Savoie did, and roughly comparable to Wright. I recall Wright being more mature, both physically and in terms of 200 foot hockey sense. Misa looks more offensively gifted and creative than Wright did. But Misa was a deer in the headlights against that USA top line. I thought Catton was the only one on Canada Red's top line that was able to hold his own against them. I know, I know, it's a long way out and all the hype around Misa and he is a year behind in development, but after watching them go head to head twice, it's hard to imagine Misa is the better prospect than Hagens for 2025. And yeah Kiviharju is my guy for 2024. He wasn't at this tournament though; I believe he was at the U20 tournament going on at the same time. TSN did the broadcast of the U17s gold medal game and Button said he thinks Eiserman is hands down the best player he's seen for 2024. I'm not convinced Button actually watched the whole tournament except for the games TSN did. I thought it should be clear to anyone who watched that Hagens was the driving force on that line. That kid is absolutely sensational. Not to say Eiserman was a passenger by any means, but neither one of them would have broken the tournament scoring record without the other (they both did). So yeah, obviously way to early for a 2024 ranking but just for shits and giggles I'll put it Kiviharju, Eiserman, Mews, Demidov, Catton, Celebrini. Edited November 17, 2022 by HighOnHockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Interesting read 2023 NHL Draft: 10 biggest risers after international tournaments - Daily Faceoff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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250Integra Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 I get the luxury of watching future Canuck Connor Bedard destroy the Victoria Royals this weekend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 12 hours ago, 250Integra said: I get the luxury of watching future Canuck Connor Bedard destroy the Victoria Royals this weekend Amazing! Was the game a sell out? I’d assume so what a draw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 10 hours ago, R3aL said: Amazing! Was the game a sell out? I’d assume so what a draw It's sold out now but I bought tickets 2 months ago! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, 250Integra said: It's sold out now but I bought tickets 2 months ago! Well played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alflives Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: We need to tank hard for this kid. He's the guy we could build a winner around. Imagine Bedard and Petey as our 1 and 2 C's. Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: We need to tank hard for this kid. He's the guy we could build a winner around. Imagine Bedard and Petey as our 1 and 2 C's. Damn. 8 more years and he’ll be a Canuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Just now, Devron said: 8 more years and he’ll be a Canuck 100% Like former BC greats that said they'd love to play at home such as Sakic, Yzerman, Neidermeyer That would be our luck. Miss the playoffs this year, don't place high enough to worry about the lottery and have a chance to sign him as a UFA at $15+ million when we're still a cap team and just needing to tinker to get over the hump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Warhippy said: 100% Like former BC greats that said they'd love to play at home such as Sakic, Yzerman, Neidermeyer That would be our luck. Miss the playoffs this year, don't place high enough to worry about the lottery and have a chance to sign him as a UFA at $15+ million when we're still a cap team and just needing to tinker to get over the hump Haha Were those guys huge Canuck fans though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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