canuck73_3 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 20 minutes ago, stawns said: this team needs a lot more than that and they need a lot of cap flexibility. Miller would be the other move. Moving Bo would be a massive fail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, higgyfan said: double post Edited November 6, 2022 by higgyfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Miller would be the other move. Moving Bo would be a massive fail. Maybe, but Bo is the easiest to move and will return significant pieces to plug into the lineup to help the club right now. We could get (likely) an older right shot defensively minded D and an older right shot defensively minded C. Two holes filled for Bo. I think it’s a stupid move, but we tend to make moves in hopes of winning now, so almost expect this to happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ba;;isticsports said: My Original thinking on what they were doing was to sign him to buy more time and not lose him for nothing and thinking that they could shop for the best return on him throughout the year (because his best years will be behind him when or if we compete for a Cup, for that reason alone as much as i enjoyed Miller last year is why i was ok with trading him from strength) This may still be the case, unless he is here a year from now I suppose it's possible they were giving the team as constructed one last season to see what they could do... And still had this last season of his previous deal as an "ejector seat"... But I be really think they wanted to keep him and build around this (despite not addressing the top 4 RHD, 3C etc). If nothing else, their performance this year should make it less painful to the more hopeful portion of the fanbase, if they do decide to rip that band aid off, so the PR gets easier at least Personally, I just wish they'd ripped it off last spring/summer though. Edited November 6, 2022 by aGENT 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Maybe, but Bo is the easiest to move and will return significant pieces to plug into the lineup to help the club right now. We could get (likely) an older right shot defensively minded D and an older right shot defensively minded C. Two holes filled for Bo. I think it’s a stupid move, but we tend to make moves in hopes of winning now, so almost expect this to happen. I don’t care if Bo is the “easiest to move” it would be a massive fail of a move. Period. Edited November 6, 2022 by canuck73_3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Miller would be the other move. Moving Bo would be a massive fail. How? We are at the bottom of the league with all our top offensive players at their best lol. Bo is not a needle mover at all. Everyone's biggest concern is faceoffs. I'd put EP in position to take the most. If he can get good at that, Man's got selke skills 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Mustard Tiger said: How? We are at the bottom of the league with all our top offensive players at their best lol. Bo is not a needle mover at all. Everyone's biggest concern is faceoffs. I'd put EP in position to take the most. If he can get good at that, Man's got selke skills Bo carried us in the playoffs and moves the needle much more than pouty JT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: I don’t care if Bo is the “easiest to move” it would be a massive fail of a move. Period. We agree. But our owner wants to win now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said: Bo carried us in the playoffs and moves the needle much more than pouty JT. Again we agree. But what does Miller have in value now with his new contract? Bo is worth more and to a wider market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Ghostsof1915 said: You'd be demanding heads to roll if he couldn't be traded and he walked for nothing. 1 hour ago, Devron said: I find it hard to believe I was fully on board for letting him walk for cap space if it came to that. He's an offensive floater who doesn't fit our timeline. If we just kept our cool we'd have a prime asset to sell and ample money for Bo. I detest this management group. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said: Bo carried us in the playoffs and moves the needle much more than pouty JT. Hey I'm on board with moving him too. Bo plays on the leagues worst PK for two years straight. He's been the captain of the team who misses the playoffs yearly exect for the gifted bubble year. I just struggle to see how we improve this team by signing BO to a 7.5x8 All we do is eat up 2m+ more of the cap for the exact same situation as right now. We seriously need to put the emotion aside and think short term pain ( something that's actually been 10 years already ) for long term gain ( something we haven't experienced because he refuse to rip the bandaid off ) I'll pay BO RNH deal all day but he seems to think he's a top of the league player lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Muttley said: Thanks for posting. Scott Oake is a bit of a goof... He just can't let it be with Bo's contract. Leave the boy alone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, Alflives said: Again we agree. But what does Miller have in value now with his new contract? Bo is worth more and to a wider market. He’s still easily moveable. We get a top 4 dman a prospect and a 1st MINIMUM if we move JT. He has more value at a fixed term with Cap going up than with one year left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said: Hey I'm on board with moving him too. Bo plays on the leagues worst PK for two years straight. He's been the captain of the team who misses the playoffs yearly exect for the gifted bubble year. I just struggle to see how we improve this team by signing BO to a 7.5x8 All we do is eat up 2m+ more of the cap for the exact same situation as right now. We seriously need to put the emotion aside and think short term pain ( something that's actually been 10 years already ) for long term gain ( something we haven't experienced because he refuse to rip the bandaid off ) I'll pay BO RNH deal all day but he seems to think he's a top of the league player lol I mean he is second in the league in goals on an awful team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Jaimito said: Deserved a pt, but really blew the second pt. Preds aren't a good team. We're worse 1 hour ago, stawns said: no argument here..........GM's,now, have the gift of hindsight and should act with the assumption that things are unstable in our society and economy and move forward cautiously, not throwing caution to the wind because of "projections". Thank you voice of reason. I've been saying this for 3 years now. Take the foot of the gas pedal ffs and plan appropriately. When I have to be the adult something is very wrong. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 I feel like the one important part that we are all overlooking is this: We outplayed, and outchanced the Preds by a significant margin. So yes, it's frustrating but Canucks were the better team and deserve more then the 1 point they got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: He’s still easily moveable. We get a top 4 dman a prospect and a 1st MINIMUM if we move JT. He has more value at a fixed term with Cap going up than with one year left. Hope you’re right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: I mean he is second in the league in goals on an awful team. Almost a goal per game, While the rest of the top 6 is a point per game including huggy. Yet last in PK and bottom 5 team, Blowing leads at historic rates. What our boys are doing is literally the ideal tank and sell path. Just like the Leafs we need to learn individual stats doesn't = success. Selling high is what every single team who's built well did. We are trying to be the sharks of the last 2 decades without actually making the playoffs or being a good team. Yearly retool and add at all cost.. Not giving a damn about the prospect pool for future prolonged success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said: Hey I'm on board with moving him too. Bo plays on the leagues worst PK for two years straight. He's been the captain of the team who misses the playoffs yearly exect for the gifted bubble year. I just struggle to see how we improve this team by signing BO to a 7.5x8 All we do is eat up 2m+ more of the cap for the exact same situation as right now. We seriously need to put the emotion aside and think short term pain ( something that's actually been 10 years already ) for long term gain ( something we haven't experienced because he refuse to rip the bandaid off ) I'll pay BO RNH deal all day but he seems to think he's a top of the league player lol So you think Bo should get less salary than what he is already getting? Not going to happen. Can you offer something that suggest that Bo thinks he's a top player in the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Just now, Mustard Tiger said: Almost a goal per game, While the rest of the top 6 is a point per game including huggy. Yet last in PK and bottom 5 team, Blowing leads at historic rates. What our boys are doing is literally the ideal tank and sell path. Just like the Leafs we need to learn individual stats doesn't = success. Selling high is what every single team who's built well did. We are trying to be the sharks of the last 2 decades without actually making the playoffs or being a good team. Yearly retool and add at all cost.. Not giving a damn about the prospect pool for future prolonged success Moving Miller does alot to fix our gaping hole on defence. Bo is not the player I would move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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