amplified0ne Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, bad alice french said: Goaltending has been terrible all year including Demko since the beginning of the season. It had a lot to do with our start. I can’t recall many teams getting through 50 or 60 games with two minor league goaltenders and coming out with a winning record. I just think that it’s hard to properly assessed this roster with us bleeding goals like this. Demko was playing near Vezina caliber last year before his injury and they STILL couldn't make the playoffs. The AAA chances this team gives up is baffling, its either they dont care and just looking to stat pad and get paid or they are incapable of basic team defense. Probably a little of both, how many coaches cant fix this god awful PK. That is a clear and obvious sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, amplified0ne said: He got us to the playoffs legitimately with the Sedin's aging and less talent than this current roster has It's funny, the Desjardins era was actually better than the last season and a half We knew we weren't good but at least those teams had heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawbone Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Well that was putrid. Hopefully just the emotions of the past couple weeks catching up with them. Seattle is a better team, but they looked like they were in a completely different league than us tonight. The Canucks aren't THAT bad, and we'll see some closer losses down the stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Wonder if there are any ppl who still want to cheer for wins to ruin our chances at bedard now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad alice french Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, *Buzzsaw* said: The team is giving the opposition way too many 2 on 1's and 3 on 2's... not to mention giving the puck away in their zone... that is nothing to do with goaltending. A goalie who is facing that kind of challenge is going to let in goals... no matter how good they are. Demko made the team look good last season... he should have won the Vezina. But in the process he destroyed himself physically and was not ready this year. I totally agree it’s not all on goaltending but assuming you played some hockey you know how it goes… Getting bailed out by your goaltender really affects the mojo of your team. The team has no confidence or identity right now. The MVP is on the shelf and they’re feeling it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad alice french Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Coconuts said: It's funny, the Desjardins era was actually better than the last season and a half We knew we weren't good but at least those teams had heart Those teams had Tanev and Edler. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Coconuts said: It's funny, the Desjardins era was actually better than the last season and a half We knew we weren't good but at least those teams had heart And he cried when he left just like Bruce but people were cruel, cold, and heartless. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad alice french Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, amplified0ne said: Demko was playing near Vezina caliber last year before his injury and they STILL couldn't make the playoffs. The AAA chances this team gives up is baffling, its either they dont care and just looking to stat pad and get paid or they are incapable of basic team defense. Probably a little of both, how many coaches cant fix this god awful PK. That is a clear and obvious sign. Hey, there’s no denying huge portions of this roster requires a serious overhaul. But be careful not to overcompensate for great goaltending. Lots of awesome teams have gone deep in the playoffs and won cups riding a hot goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 CONDENSED GAME | Canucks at Kraken The other version can be found here: 38 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: CONDENSED GAME | Casucks at Kraken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amplified0ne Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, bad alice french said: I totally agree it’s not all on goaltending but assuming you played some hockey you know how it goes… Getting bailed out by your goaltender really affects the mojo of your team. The team has no confidence or identity right now. The MVP is on the shelf and they’re feeling it. At this point they are better off trading Demko in the offseason. He's already showing signs of his body breaking down from the wear and tear, plus he will probably age out before we are any good. Find a decent 2.5million dollar goalie on a 1 year deal in the offseason and ride with them and Martin next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Guy Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: I hope that was humor when he said “that’s a good team right there.” If so, funny, if not, we’re in serious trouble. Edited January 26, 2023 by Wise Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singing chef Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Strawbone said: Well that was putrid. Hopefully just the emotions of the past couple weeks catching up with them. Seattle is a better team, but they looked like they were in a completely different league than us tonight. The Canucks aren't THAT bad, and we'll see some closer losses down the stretch. Apparently they are ! There are 26 teams with better records and only 5 with worse, so it seems that they are bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 CONDENSED GAME | Canucks at Kraken Alt version: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, bad alice french said: Those teams had Tanev and Edler. Amongst others https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/VAN/2015.html https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/VAN/2016.html https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/VAN/2017.html 2 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: And he cried when he left just like Bruce but people were cruel, cold, and heartless. Willie wasn't hated for who he was though imo He was a genuine dude who did his best, I'm glad he got his shot at the bigs That was the closer to the beginning of the decline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singing chef Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Wise Guy said: I hope that was humor when he said “that’s a good team right there.” If so, funny, if not, we’re in serious trouble. I believe he was referring to the Seattle team......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, Coconuts said: Amongst others https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/VAN/2015.html https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/VAN/2016.html https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/VAN/2017.html Willie wasn't hated for who he was though imo He was a genuine dude who did his best, I'm glad he got his shot at the bigs That was the closer to the beginning of the decline No, but people were still cruel and heartless though. Interesting contrast He was a good dude who did his best. It was obvious he cared. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: He also won the cup as a GM with the Carolina Hurricanes in 2006. He joined them in 1994 so he spent 12 years building that team into a champion. Carolina was a bubble team that year... it didn't even make the playoffs the next year. Carolina also rode another rookie goalie to the Cup... Cam Ward... who won the Conn Smythe in 2006 and then basically faded in the rest of his career. Hurricanes also had an easy path to the finals... their only challenging series was against New Jersey... who were a dwindling force after their 2003 win. The rest of the series, except against Montreal in the opener, they faced upset winners who were brought back to reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, amplified0ne said: He got us to the playoffs legitimately with the Sedin's aging and less talent than this current roster has Also, our defence and goaltending was much better then. Edler, Tanev, Hamhuis, Bieksa, Sbisa, Weber, Stanton > OEL, Myers, Hughes, Schenn, Stillman, Bear, Burroughs. Miller, Lack, Markstrom > Demko, Martin, Delia. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Kraken showing you don’t necessarily need star players-you just need a good roster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: No, but people were still cruel and heartless though. Interesting contrast He was a good dude who did his best. It was obvious he cared. He did, he deserved better But that's this market, it's a tough market to lose in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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