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*Official* CBA Negotiations and Lockout Thread

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If Oct.11 was Bettman's "drop-dead date", then why did they start negotiating so late and low-ball the NHLPA with a horrendous initial offer?!?

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What a load of crap. Idiots like Bettman, Fehr, and Jacobs need to go, and they need to go now!

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Gary Bettman responds to NHLPA proposal

Shortly after Donald Fehr said he had been advised by the league that the NHLPA’s latest proposal was “not acceptable,” Gary Bettman addressed the media:

- The sense of optimism “almost inexplicably” disappeared on Wednesday afternoon after having such a good day on Tuesday.

- Owners pushed hard to get a new deal last night and the union’s response was “shockingly silent.”

- Owners in the room were beside themselves at the players’ reaction.

- Key was to have a long-term agreement with the players. “That’s what our fans deserve.”

- League is going to take a deep breath and regroup.

- "Things that we added this week are off the table.”

- The Make Whole provision in its entirety as a concept is off the table.

- Denies that the league has set a drop-dead date for cancelling the season, not even internally.

Bill Daly's remarks:

- Said five-year player contract limits hugely important to NHL, as is 10-year CBA term

- Term limit on player contracts is so important to league, it’s “the hill we’ll die on.”

- Owners were “insulted” by players’ reaction to NHL’s offer last night.

- Confirmed the league dropped proposed changes to entry level, arbitration and unrestricted free agency, but keeping that the same is now off the table.

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LOOOOLLL. But, Don Fehr, we are close to a deal right?

LOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL!

RIP NHL.

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The only thing that's twitchier than Bettman is that makeshift microphone...

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I can't stand Bettman, it baffles me how the owners still support this buffoon.

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"Going back to an Era where the league is struggling an unsuccessful is not something we want"

Your doing it with this waste of time you call the lockout Gary.

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Gary Bettman on decertification/disclaimer: "We don't view it in the same way in terms of its impact as apparently the union may."

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I'm gonna watch me some NFL. Bye for now! Oh, and thanks Gary, great job controlling those greedy bas*ard owners.

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If Oct.11 was Bettman's "drop-dead date", then why did they start negotiating so late and low-ball the NHLPA with a horrendous initial offer?!?

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Well, I've spent the last few yrs of my life negotiating agreements, albeit not in labor law. And what's abundantly clear to me after watching todays pressers are:

1) It's got to personal, on both sides. It's why rule #1 is - have a 3rd party who isn't tied to the outcome negotiate your agreements.

2) The league is clearly a dictator, not a negotiator. They've clearly taken their strategies from Hilters regime. They want what they want, and that's it.

3) Bettman and Daly are losing it. Bettman is the face of this process on NHL side and he just 'publicly' lost it. To me, it speaks to the chaos going on behind close doors.

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"Going back to an Era where the league is struggling an unsuccessful is not something we want"

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According to Doug MacLean, it was the NHLPA that did not want to negotiate earlier.

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Bettman may not have a "drop dead date" for the season, but if this crap keeps up they're going to find out when mine for the NHL is!

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You mean the era that's happening now?

He pretends like the league is healthy when it's really not. Why else would he have to take away so much money from the players.

This league has half of its teams doing well and half struggling to even make a profit or not go under. He's ignoring the real problem in this whole thing which is broken markets that nee to be addressed.

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I'm still not panicking. Lots of American teams fail to make money until after the football season. Superbowl is in february so they aren't going to rush a decision. If they don't make a deal early in the new year then I'd worry.

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