WiDeN Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 The Weber one was silly too. Those players had to sign those contracts too though. It's a little hard to blame them, but it still takes two to tango. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyFox Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 frack the NHL they are a bush league ran by a moron I have no idea how Gary Bettman is still running this league when he's already had 3 work stopages. The owners and the players have to get their heads out of their asses and learn how to make a deal and not be so greedy. The people this affects are the employes of NHL teams and most importantly the fans. I'm going to get my season tickets for the heat so I can atleast enjoy pro hockey while the nhl tries and work out a deal. Oh yeah I hope Bettman drops dead that dumb rat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMelvin Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 What I can't understand is that the Owners can't make money because the players are locked out...so the players can go out and sign up on contracts with other country's teams. So you know the the players can just up and leave til the lock out is over...no hardship for them. Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hosswolf Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 What I can't understand is that the Owners can't make money because the players are locked out...so the players can go out and sign up on contracts with other country's teams. So you know the the players can just up and leave til the lock out is over...no hardship for them. Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 If fehr has his baseball way work for NHL ... It'll kill small markets and teams like new York and Detroit buy their cups. Oh yeah remember the blue jays and expos of old prior to the strike? Yah thanks fehr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 You know it's bad when hockey players are defecting TO Russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 If fehr has his baseball way work for NHL ... It'll kill small markets and teams like new York and Detroit buy their cups. Oh yeah remember the blue jays and expos of old prior to the strike? Yah thanks fehr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanj Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Who cares. We are one of the rich teams in the league. The Aquilini's can and will easily support a 100M+ payroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamJamIam Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 What I can't understand is that the Owners can't make money because the players are locked out...so the players can go out and sign up on contracts with other country's teams. So you know the the players can just up and leave til the lock out is over...no hardship for them. Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 What I can't understand is that the Owners can't make money because the players are locked out...so the players can go out and sign up on contracts with other country's teams. So you know the the players can just up and leave til the lock out is over...no hardship for them. Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tybarber Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Any one notice the players don't appear on the Canucks website background anymore? Is this because of the lockout? I checked through some of the other teams' website as well, seems they have the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Any one notice the players don't appear on the Canucks website background anymore? Is this because of the lockout? I checked through some of the other teams' website as well, seems they have the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiDeN Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Any one notice the players don't appear on the Canucks website background anymore? Is this because of the lockout? I checked through some of the other teams' website as well, seems they have the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richowl Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Question: How does a season of lockout solve the CBA agreement issue? I mean, couldn't there easily be 2 consecutive lockouts at this point? Assuming neither sides are budging for an agreement. How was it resolved in 04-05? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 If fehr has his baseball way work for NHL ... It'll kill small markets and teams like new York and Detroit buy their cups. Oh yeah remember the blue jays and expos of old prior to the strike? Yah thanks fehr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 This lockout has simply divided people into two groups, those who understand business and those who don't. Those who do understand a bit of business know two things: 1) You don't promise money you don't have to employees. You certainly don't then try to rewrite their contracts by coercion. No other industry honours contracts less than pro hockey. You fielded the contract to the player, you signed it, you pay what it says. To claim that you shouldn't have to is pure greed. (This goes for the current CBA as well, which was written entirely by the owners. It's the same behaviour: making an offer, then ignoring it when it suits them.) The only reason the owners can do this is exclusivity. Players don't really have a proper alternative to the NHL. There aren't lots of leagues out there competing. That's why no one tries this crap if they own a law firm. There are lots of law firms out there. Employees will just go "Haha. What a dick" and get a job at a rival firm. 2) You don't make money on a team due to annual profits unless you're in a really, REALLY good market. You make money by running the team, growing the fanbase, getting more advertising, selling more merch and then selling the more developed franchise for way more than you bought it for. The owners are essentially flipping houses. They buy the house, pay to improve it, then sell it for a wad of profit. Operating costs are ALWAYS negative in this case unless you bought an apartment building which is raking in tons of rent. As it is, owners are complaining that the renters (players) aren't paying for the house. Of course they're not. Why would they? The renters are there to cover costs, not buy the house. If you don't agree with the above, consider yourself ignorant. These are simple facts of economics. Anything else being talked about is a distraction. The lockout is simply a matter of owner greed and the players, with no other viable options, having to an agreement with them if they want to continue playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaches Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 If they dont have deal by next season can it be wiped out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxiebrown Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 If fehr has his baseball way work for NHL ... It'll kill small markets and teams like new York and Detroit buy their cups. Oh yeah remember the blue jays and expos of old prior to the strike? Yah thanks fehr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuonGO Canucks Go Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Just heard Bill Daily on HockeyCentral He does not think Yotes are a failed Venture. A team that did not make money since day one is not failure wow. I do not understand how other owners are supporting crazt idea of helping 3-4 teams that are not making any money on thier own even after last CBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeak Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Question: How does a season of lockout solve the CBA agreement issue? I mean, couldn't there easily be 2 consecutive lockouts at this point? Assuming neither sides are budging for an agreement. How was it resolved in 04-05? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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