gradin123 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Does anyone know when the NFL and NBA lockouts ended if both sides were far apart like the NHL and NHLPA are right now and then all of a sudden reached a deal. Or were both sides far apart and then after a few weeks of getting negotiating they finally reached a deal? I ask because obviously both sides are far apart and was wondering if maybe one day we wake up and they reach a deal, or do we have to sit through a few weeks of people telling us they are getting closer before reaching a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 The NHL and NHLPA will go back to negotiating on Tuesday. Players will miss their first pay check on Monday, but they will receive their escrow checks in the next 2 weeks. No new offers/proposals are expected to be brought to the table. http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/10/13/nhl-nhlpa-make-it-a-date-tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Well at least they're meeting again. If they waste the day on non economic matters I'm going to personally stuff Bettman in a locker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standing_Tall#37 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Well at least they're meeting again. If they waste the day on non economic matters I'm going to personally stuff Bettman in a locker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 10:00PM — "No, really frack Gary. ???? prick. I bet he’ll let us sit the year. Owners don’t care. ???? hypocrites. Can’t afford the cap where it’s at, but lay out $200 mill for Suter and Parise? Need us to take a pay cut, but paying Redden $6 mill to play in Connecticut last year? Need cost certainty, but bet $9 mill on Bryz not going ???? batcrap crazy in Philly? Bull-????-crap. Something’s wrong there." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 Daly was asked via email on Friday what was preventing the NHL from making a new offer, “Just the concern that the union will do what its done with our last two offers, pocket them and ask for more…” Bill Daly was asked on Friday via email what was preventing the league from making a new offer. His answer to follow.— Allan Walsh (@walsha) October 15, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Daly was asked via email on Friday what was preventing the NHL from making a new offer, “Just the concern that the union will do what its done with our last two offers, pocket them and ask for more…” https://twitter.com/...880549081894913 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnLocke Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Good news! NHLPA, the ball is in your court! 45] Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun League offer of 50/50 split would begin in Year 1. No phasing in Expand ReplyRetweetFavorite 45] 3mPierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun Bettman says offer contingent on having 82-game season which would begin Nov 2. Says league offered 50/50 share of HRR Expand ReplyRetweetFavorite 45] 3mPierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun Meeting over. Bettman says NHL made new offer to NHLPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Fantastic news. It's really all up to the players now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 50/50 split with no phasing in? That might make it really interesting for teams to get under the cap. I wonder what the plan is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeak Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 For the love of everything that is pure in this world........ please, please, please, please, please, please, please let this be the offer that saves our season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieksa Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Lp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnLocke Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 More News! This is getting me SO EXCITED !! The more I hear, the better it seems. Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger The payback to the players would occur over the balance of their contracts. Expand Reply https://twitter.com/#' rel="external nofollow"> Retweet https://twitter.com/#' rel="external nofollow"> Favorite 24sTEAM Radio @TEAM1040 Fehr: Our hope is, after we review this, that this will be a proposal we can negotiate from Expand Reply https://twitter.com/#' rel="external nofollow"> Retweet https://twitter.com/#' rel="external nofollow"> Favorite 55sTEAM Radio @TEAM1040 Don Fehr: "We will discuss offer internally and get back with NHL. May be today, may be tomorrow. Sooner, rather than later" Expand Reply https://twitter.com/#' rel="external nofollow"> Retweet https://twitter.com/#' rel="external nofollow"> Favorite 58sDarren Dreger @DarrenDreger NHL intends on calculating lost salary in getting to 50-50 and will pay the players back over time. Expand Reply https://twitter.com/#' rel="external nofollow"> Retweet https://twitter.com/#' rel="external nofollow"> Favorite 1mBob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie The key to this NHL proposal, as I see it, is what "protection" exists in it for the expected first year player pay reduction. 45] Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun Am told in NHL offer there is a proposal designed to "protect" players for salary reductions in the initial years Expand ReplyRetweetFavorite 45] 4mTom Gulitti @TGfireandice Don't know details yet, but from what I'm told NHL proposal in some way protects player salaries as is in 2012-13. Interested to see how. Retweeted by TEAM Radio 45] Dan Rosen @drosennhl Bettman says there is no rollback. He said proposal was long term deal. He did not mention years in deal. Retweeted by TEAM RadioExpand ReplyRetweetFavorite 45] 14mHoward Berger @Berger_BYTES Gary Bettman told me after his media briefing #NHLPA has "about 10 days" to accept #NHL offer of 50/50 to start 82-game season Nov. 2. Retweeted by TEAM RadioExpand ReplyRetweetFavorite 45] 11mPierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun Donald Fehr going to address media in the next 15 min Expand ReplyRetweetFavorite 45] 20mDarren Dreger @DarrenDreger NHL makes much needed proposal. 50-50 split in rev. More details will surface. Await NHLPA response. Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun Also league has taken off table some of the systemic changes to player contracts which they asked for in initial July offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Lp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstar Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 The players better accept this offer. Solid for both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieksa Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I really hope this can work.. Ugh please see this as a good proposal PA. I can't stand sitting here twiddling my thumbs anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 TEAM BETTMAN~!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Very interesting. Definitely sounds like more of a starting point, especially if they're going to figure out a way to make teams honor the contracts they've signed. Time to lock themselves in a room, give a little on both sides and get this done! I'd really like to have more details about the offer though. Does that include a redefinition of HRR as well (which means a far greater reduction in player's share than the 50/50 would seem to indicate)? Does it include the other things the owners were demanding before, including a contract limit (which I actually agree with, as long as they are required to honor existing contracts as they were signed), extending the entry level contracts lengths, and denying players all rights to arbitration? Also, does it address team revenue sharing as the players were asking for so that more in-the-red teams could benefit instead of a few teams taking home a profit thanks to the bailouts after publicly reporting a yearly loss and crying poverty? Anyone else think the news leaking about the NHL hiring a spin doctor and using a focus group to develop a propaganda message scared them enough to make a new offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kane Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 The players better accept this offer. Solid for both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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