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#1 Strombone1

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:59 PM

From Iain MacIntyre

@imacVanSun: Great news. Alex Edler cleared from injured list. Back good, but may never be 100%. Bad news. . . uh, lockout.

@imacVanSun: Edler said he would have happily traded his paycheques the last 3 mos to feel good and be healthy. Back injury sucks.


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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:10 PM

Great news.

Going back to the Kesler thread, this news about Edler is proof against what people are saying about how Kesler and his agent are faking injury symptoms so that he can stay on the payroll during the lockout. If Edler can be medically cleared mid-lockout so can Kesler. The fact that Kesler is still on LTIR is only because there must be tangible proof that he is still unable to play.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:12 PM

May never be 100%... again?
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:19 PM

May never be 100%... again?

what is suppose to mean.......
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:23 PM

May never be 100%... again?

If that's a shot at Edler then just ignore this. I got into a serious car accident, shattered my pelvis and underwent emergency surgery last month. Specialists said I may never been 100% again no matter what I do. It's common with serious injuries.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:25 PM

Great news.

Going back to the Kesler thread, this news about Edler is proof against what people are saying about how Kesler and his agent are faking injury symptoms so that he can stay on the payroll during the lockout. If Edler can be medically cleared mid-lockout so can Kesler. The fact that Kesler is still on LTIR is only because there must be tangible proof that he is still unable to play.


You may be right but they are also in different positions with regards to their contracts. Edler actually neeeds to come off the injury list if he wants to get a good payday on his next contract, which is up this year. Kesler still has years left so being on the Injured list doens't hurt him in the longterm as it would Edler.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:26 PM

If that's a shot at Edler then just ignore this. I got into a serious car accident, shattered my pelvis and underwent emergency surgery last month. Specialists said I may never been 100% again no matter what I do. It's common with serious injuries.

I don't think he meant to take a jab at edler. I think he was just stating what you just said. also sorry about your accident.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:27 PM

This is good to hear but it doesn't matter cause the lockout isn't ending anytime soon
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:39 PM

If that's a shot at Edler then just ignore this. I got into a serious car accident, shattered my pelvis and underwent emergency surgery last month. Specialists said I may never been 100% again no matter what I do. It's common with serious injuries.


Well that sucks. I wonder if they said the same about Daniel.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:42 PM

If that's a shot at Edler then just ignore this. I got into a serious car accident, shattered my pelvis and underwent emergency surgery last month. Specialists said I may never been 100% again no matter what I do. It's common with serious injuries.


Agreed! Especially with backs. They are so vulnerable to injury / re-injury.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:50 PM

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You may be right but they are also in different positions with regards to their contracts. Edler actually neeeds to come off the injury list if he wants to get a good payday on his next contract, which is up this year. Kesler still has years left so being on the Injured list doens't hurt him in the longterm as it would Edler.

Yup, insurance fraud. Every NHL player wants to risk the $20M+ remaining on his contract just so he can get paid for 3 months ... :picard:
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 02:12 PM

Edler was one of the few bright spot for the future of this team but things just seem to be going downhill. Hopefully it turns around. I sure hope the Canucks don't end up signing him to a big contract only to have him be perpetually injured.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 02:32 PM

Yup, insurance fraud. Every NHL player wants to risk the $20M+ remaining on his contract just so he can get paid for 3 months ... :picard:


Not to mention possible jail time....
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 02:35 PM

After reading the latest lockout news, Im starting to think next season will be in jeopardy
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 03:14 PM

Yup, insurance fraud. Every NHL player wants to risk the $20M+ remaining on his contract just so he can get paid for 3 months ... :picard:


They're not going to get charged with insurance fraud...

This isn't like people going on disability and getting caught out golfing with their buddies.

In hockey, you're going out there every other night and getting knocked around by 200+ pound guys. So the definition of being healthy is alot different. Just cause he feels alright doesn't mean he's gonna rush back and risk re-injuring his shoulder. The rules are alot different, and nobody can tell him to clear himself but him, because ultimately it's his career he has to think about.

He's taking his time, there's nothing wrong with that. What would be the point of rushing back? There's not even hockey right now. It's just like Salo magically being ready after Malhotra went down, these things aren`t a coincidence. It happens all the time in hockey.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 03:50 PM

Great news.

Going back to the Kesler thread, this news about Edler is proof against what people are saying about how Kesler and his agent are faking injury symptoms so that he can stay on the payroll during the lockout. If Edler can be medically cleared mid-lockout so can Kesler. The fact that Kesler is still on LTIR is only because there must be tangible proof that he is still unable to play.


That is great news and its actually a benefit to us that the lockout is still going on because it is giving time for Kesler to heal and also for Edler to slowly work his back into proper shape vs. stepping right back into it.

These guys, when 'cleared' doesn't always mean they are 100% ready to participate in the very rough sport of professional hockey, it means they have healed. Backs are tricky thinks and can lead to a whole host of other issues down the road if not deal with correctly or tweaked soon after getting back into the game.

This extra time will be very beneficial for Edler to continue strengthening, and not taking hits. Just means he will be in a better, and importantly safer position for his career and self going forward, so very happy to hear.

As for Kesler, I have questioned his attitude in the past, but agree I don't think its faking. Firstly, the Nucks would have their doctors look at him, and he can't fake healing, its healed or its not. And, again these guys are professional athletes, it takes alot more 'strengthening' to be considered game ready than the avg person.

In addition, as it has been stated, both his shoulder and wrist on the same arm were done. I have had shoulder surgery before and had torn my pectoral at the same time. I can tell you from personal experience it takes alot of time to rehab for just one injury, you add in a second issue that is tied to the rehab of the first and it adds alot of wait time. Simply, you have to just rest them both until they are able to start being used together.

He is not faking and is probably just starting to get to the point where his strength is returning, which would make sense that it would take a couple more months to get to NHL ready.

Edited by BuretoMogilny, 17 December 2012 - 03:51 PM.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 03:53 PM

Edler was one of the few bright spot for the future of this team but things just seem to be going downhill. Hopefully it turns around. I sure hope the Canucks don't end up signing him to a big contract only to have him be perpetually injured.


Yes 2 presidents trophys in a row is downhill..

wow dude...want a soother bc your team team didnt win win the cup cup? Its not easy buddy, be thankful you have terrific hockey to watch night in night out and we have a contender. Want the Blue Jackets instead?
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 04:23 PM

Yes 2 presidents trophys in a row is downhill..

wow dude...want a soother bc your team team didnt win win the cup cup? Its not easy buddy, be thankful you have terrific hockey to watch night in night out and we have a contender. Want the Blue Jackets instead?

You need to slow down before jumping down peoples throats. If I am understanding correctly, he is saying Edler is going downhill. That isn't much better but still...just take a deep breath before each post and maybe people will actually respect you more.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 04:23 PM

They're not going to get charged with insurance fraud...

This isn't like people going on disability and getting caught out golfing with their buddies.

In hockey, you're going out there every other night and getting knocked around by 200+ pound guys. So the definition of being healthy is alot different. Just cause he feels alright doesn't mean he's gonna rush back and risk re-injuring his shoulder. The rules are alot different, and nobody can tell him to clear himself but him, because ultimately it's his career he has to think about.

He's taking his time, there's nothing wrong with that. What would be the point of rushing back? There's not even hockey right now. It's just like Salo magically being ready after Malhotra went down, these things aren`t a coincidence. It happens all the time in hockey.

What are you talking about?

The insurance company will require proof that he has not been medically cleared to play by approved specialists. He hasn't been medically cleared to play by said doctors. The assumption that Kesler and his agent are lying about his injury just to get a few extra paycheques is simply absurd.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 04:27 PM

Oh well, it's not like he's ever going to play in a Canucks uni again anyways :ph34r:
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 04:28 PM

You need to slow down before jumping down peoples throats. If I am understanding correctly, he is saying Edler is going downhill. That isn't much better but still...just take a deep breath before each post and maybe people will actually respect you more.


And Edler wasn't a big part of:

1. A stanley cup finals run to game 7
2. Being an all star
3. 2 pres cups trophies in row?

Perhaps I didn't explain myself well enough - but the jumping down the throat was legitimate. I don't call that downhill.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 04:30 PM

What are you talking about?

The insurance company will require proof that he has not been medically cleared to play by approved specialists. He hasn't been medically cleared to play by said doctors. The assumption that Kesler and his agent are lying about his injury just to get a few extra paycheques is simply absurd.


Who said anything about faking the injury? Obviously he's injured...I doubt he faked his surgery.

That doesn't mean you can't take things extra slow when dealing with a serious injury like his. All I'm saying is, sometimes players come back early if their team needs them, and sometimes they take those extra few weeks. It's pretty common with injuries.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 04:32 PM

And Edler wasn't a big part of:

1. A stanley cup finals run to game 7
2. Being an all star
3. 2 pres cups trophies in row?


Perhaps I didn't explain myself well enough - but the jumping down the throat was legitimate.

I really don't know what you're trying to prove here... I said that I didn't agree with the Edler going down hill theory.
Well I really don't find jumping down people's throat ever legitimate, but to each their own I guess. What do I know anyway!
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 04:41 PM

Who said anything about faking the injury? Obviously he's injured...I doubt he faked his surgery.

That doesn't mean you can't take things extra slow when dealing with a serious injury like his. All I'm saying is, sometimes players come back early if their team needs them, and sometimes they take those extra few weeks. It's pretty common with injuries.

No one said anything about faking the injury. Many people on this board over the last few days have said that Kesler and his agent are lying about STILL being injured just so he could keep getting paid by the insurance company, which is ridiculous. Thus why I replied to the insinuation with a clearly sarcastic remark followed by a :picard:
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 04:47 PM

No one said anything about faking the injury. Many people on this board over the last few days have said that Kesler and his agent are lying about STILL being injured just so he could keep getting paid by the insurance company, which is ridiculous. Thus why I replied to the insinuation with a clearly sarcastic remark followed by a :picard:


Well you know rehab is covered by insurance as well right? That's all part of the process too.

You don't have to lie about still being injured, all you have to do is take your rehab slowly. There's nothing illegal about that. Last time Kesler rushed back as soon as he could, and his game suffered because of it. This time he's not taking any chances.

I don't see anything shady about taking things extra slow when he's got nothing to rush back to right now. Might as well take the proper time. It's just funny that his agent came out publicly a couple weeks ago and said that he would be out longer. That was right about the same time that the lockout looked like it was going to last quite awhile longer. Don't think that agents and players don't play that game.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:29 PM

The longer this owner loser lockout goes on,the better it is for Kesler and the Canucks.

Same for Daniel,Jason and Alex.

Our players get necessary respite and the NHL owners get to be seen for what the majority are.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:37 PM

Well you know rehab is covered by insurance as well right? That's all part of the process too.

You don't have to lie about still being injured, all you have to do is take your rehab slowly. There's nothing illegal about that. Last time Kesler rushed back as soon as he could, and his game suffered because of it. This time he's not taking any chances.

I don't see anything shady about taking things extra slow when he's got nothing to rush back to right now. Might as well take the proper time. It's just funny that his agent came out publicly a couple weeks ago and said that he would be out longer. That was right about the same time that the lockout looked like it was going to last quite awhile longer. Don't think that agents and players don't play that game.

At what point did I dispute any of this? I'd love for you to point this out to me ...
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:08 PM

Good to hear. Just waiting for this stupid lockout to end.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:39 PM

Thank god for the lockout. If the season had started, Edler would not have waited till mid December to play, he'd be out there in November and aggravating his back even more so that it would flare up later and he'd be ineffective during the playoffs.

This lockout is perfect timing for the Canucks, we need Kesler and Edler fully healed up because without them we have no chance of winning a Cup. A shortened season would be perfect right now, if the season were to start early Jan (latest possible start) then even Kesler might be ready to go.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:13 PM

Doctors by nature are pessismists. Healing takes time.
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