Brocklovich Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Not sure if its been mentioned or not but what about Washington as a trade partner? Neuvirth / 1st or a prospect (Forsberg or any of their highly touted prospect) for Luongo We get a decent backup + prospect for down the road or a draft pick for the upcoming draft and they get a solid 1a 1b tandem with Holtby & Luongo as well as insurance incase the unlikely event that Holtby falters a bit under the pressure. Plus it may get rid of any awkward dressing room moments / atmosphere between Neuvirth & Ovie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 i agree it may be in the best interest to run with the goalie tandem for this short season. But if thats the case, I think the GM should come out and say that so this media barage can stop asking everyone the same question. ... To me it makes sense anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I hope the Canucks want to trade Lu at 33 rather than 34. They will lose value otherwise. Gillis might wait for 10 - 15 games to get the value he wants as the season will wind down quickly. The Van CUP timeline almost demands Lu bring back a top player and in his case a forward. If Kesleer is progressing as well as they said yesterday then I still think a RW might be a target. I still hope Gillis's deal brings a top player (RW) + prospect + a pic. Throwing in a piece on Van's end if necessary. Raymond is not a throw away. His 25 goals (which could have been 30) is nothing to sneeze at. He has had time to recup his back. I am very curious to see him in action as well as Lappy. My hunch is Lappy take a hard run at the 3rd C spot. He has all the skills. He had the absolute sickest shift produced by a Canuck last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 The out clause is not "out of contract" it's and out clause from "NTC". As per CBA NHL contracts are all guaranteed, teams and players can't negotiate a contract out of parameters of CBA. The rule still applies. The Cap recapture rule charges the cap to the team's payroll if the player retires early. Canucks would be on th e hook for cap savings during Luongo's stay in VAN, approx $6 mill over past 2 seasons. Luongo's new team will be on hook for cap for the cap savings they get over Luongo's stay with team. Approx $6 mill if he plays until his salary drops to around $1 mill per year for final 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Not sure if its been mentioned or not but what about Washington as a trade partner? Neuvirth / 1st or a prospect (Forsberg or any of their highly touted prospect) for Luongo We get a decent backup + prospect for down the road or a draft pick for the upcoming draft and they get a solid 1a 1b tandem with Holtby & Luongo as well as insurance incase the unlikely event that Holtby falters a bit under the pressure. Plus it may get rid of any awkward dressing room moments / atmosphere between Neuvirth & Ovie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 When was this 25 goal season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 If the Leafs didn't want to pay the price for Luongo or Bernier they should have sent big money to Vokoun or traded for BOBROVSKY! From what I've seen of James Reimer, he's got nothing special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Anyone have any guesses on who will be the first starter to sustain a major injury? Will one happen in camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 If it has to be the leafs I would say frattin because he hits and can score if given the chance.possible playoff performer.Biggs,if developed seems to be a guy on the third line that can hammer people but not hurt you defensively at least.A high Draft pick so as to put Van in a position to move at the draft.That would allow Van to get a specific player to fill a need.If TO thinks Bozak Kadri etc have a lot of value then it should be no problem getting replacement draft picks in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 And what happens if nobody wants him? Whoops. Anyone whining about the proposed returns today will be in need of therapy after learning of the kind of offers we'd get for Luongo if we hang on to him for this whole year and try and sell-off again in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I just can't see them giving up Gardiner though, as much as we hope for him I just don't think it will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 If it has to be the leafs I would say frattin because he hits and can score if given the chance.possible playoff performer.Biggs,if developed seems to be a guy on the third line that can hammer people but not hurt you defensively at least.A high Draft pick so as to put Van in a position to move at the draft.That would allow Van to get a specific player to fill a need.If TO thinks Bozak Kadri etc have a lot of value then it should be no problem getting replacement draft picks in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Yeah I think we should try to get a 2nd rounder, Franson's value isn't that high after struggling, who knows if he even cracks the leafs roster full time and Bozak is a pending UFA so I think it is a reasonable request adding the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 If your going to do that you might as well throw everyone's stick in the middle of the ice and get Jay Onrait to throw on a blind fold and fire them on each side of the rink to decide who goes where Make a TSN special out of it. Dan O'tool can be a ref or something cause those guys are always together. And they sure are funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 After that though, a new tidbit on Edmonton: Watters is a former asst. GM to the Leafs for those unsure. Not sure why they would be, as I'd trust Dubnyk with a young and growing team so long as they give him help on D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Now that would depend upon whether he won a Stanley Cup and Vezina as you romanticized earlier in this thread, wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I think Nonis should give it up with the Burke poker face. Burke was believable - when he says he's stubborn enough not to pay a price for goaltending, I didn't doubt him. We've seen how he operates. But Nonis is the one that went public that the Leafs need a veteran goaltender. An admission that put Burke between a rockier and a harder place. Now he's saying things like 'we want a veteran but we don't want to trade any players that would make the team in front of him not quite as good, and we don't want to trade our young players, and we don't want to move any of our young reserve assets....' Santa Claus has already come and gone. If he didn't drop a veteran goaltender at center ice of MLG, the Laffs may want to put their Lalala dreams to rest. In real life, most of us have to pay for things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I guess. Historically, I don't think many Vezina winners have been the backup, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 When asked by the media if there was anywhere he didn't want to go, Lu was quick to say "Edmonton". Even if MG was inclined to trade Lu there, I doubt Lu waives his NTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool story bro Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Oh yeah we should definitely try to get the 2nd as well, I'm sure MG will get the best deal possible. OK I know both of us think we aren't getting Gardiner or Couturier or B Schenn etc but.... I've been thinking since last night that because Gardiner is injured and he can't be traded until cleared, perhaps there is reason for hope that MG could pry Gardiner out of TOR. Maybe this is the reason Lu hasn't been traded yet. Once Gardiner is cleared then the trade could be consummated. Canucks also need a backup goalie if Lu traded, so Reimer may also be coming this way Jake Gardiner + Kadri + Reimer for Lu + Raymond + Schroeder or Sauve What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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