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#1 DhillonCanuck

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:36 PM

During the summer when the Shea Weber fiasco was going many people overlooked the Jason Garrison signing including me. Honestly the day we signed him all I knew was that he had one good season and may just be one hit wonder. All I wanted was Shea Weber, but now after hearing how he's been the best defense man at camp the last two days, I wonder if this guy can be just as good as Weber. He put up Ehrhoff like numbers playing for Florida and now that he is on Vancouver I feel he can double that production, speaking optimistically So who knows we may just have picked up the best bang for its buck signing from the off season.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:40 PM

He played with Campbell on the PP but it was his shot that got Campbell a good portion of his points.

Now imagine that bomb of a shot playing with the Sedins on the PP........

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Garrison-Hamhuis

Booth-Kesler-Kassian/Higgins
Edler-Bieksa
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:43 PM

I care more about his defense. Florida fans think Garrison-Weaver (yes, Mike Weaver) was an amazing shutdown pairing prior to Campbell-Garrison.

It doesn't get talked about as much as getting a bruiser or offensive juggernaut, but I think we really are missing a consistent defender in our top 4 outside of Hamhuis.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:44 PM

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During the summer when the Shea Weber fiasco was going many people overlooked the Jason Garrison signing including me. Honestly the day we signed him all I knew was that he had one good season and may just be one hit wonder. All I wanted was Shea Weber, but now after hearing how he's been the best defense man at camp the last two days, I wonder if this guy can be just as good as Weber. He put up Ehrhoff like numbers playing for Florida and now that he is on Vancouver I feel he can double that production, speaking optimistically So who knows we may just have picked up the best bang for its buck signing from the off season.

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Two days into a mini-camp and you're predicting Garrison will get 100pts (Erhoff got 50 and you said he'll double that), seriously :picard: .
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:45 PM

First day on the job.A tiny bit of restraint may be in order.

Zoolander,I believe Booth,Kesler and Kassian are all injured and at this stage there is no real second line save Raymond and Higgins,which may not be what is wanted or desired.

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Garrison-Hamhuis

Booth-Kesler-Kassian/Higgins
Edler-Bieksa

Edited by nuck nit, 14 January 2013 - 07:06 PM.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:45 PM

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:47 PM

Ho-hum, CDC once again all over-stating minor injuries to players.

Source http://www.sportsnet...amp_january_14/
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:48 PM

wow.... way too fast.... when you watch these players in training camp, a lot of times they look faster and better then they do on television. Lets not get ahead of ourselves here.....
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:57 PM

Two days into a mini-camp and you're predicting Garrison will get 100pts (Erhoff got 50 and you said he'll double that), seriously :picard: .

one meeelion points at a minimum
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:57 PM

Shea Weber fiasco? So melodramatic.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:59 PM

Optimism isn't a bad thing, but you might be taking it a little far.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:02 PM

Optimism isn't a bad thing, but you might be taking it a little far.

Haha probably im just so excited for the season to start and see what happens.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:02 PM

I care more about his defense. Florida fans think Garrison-Weaver (yes, Mike Weaver) was an amazing shutdown pairing prior to Campbell-Garrison.

It doesn't get talked about as much as getting a bruiser or offensive juggernaut, but I think we really are missing a consistent defender in our top 4 outside of Hamhuis.


Absolutely. As good as our defence is having Bieksa and Edler in the top 4 can be trouble defence wise. Garrison should do a lot to give us a more traditional defence.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:05 PM

That's why MG is one of the best GM in the NHL.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:06 PM

First day on the job.A tiny bit of restraint may be in order.

I believe Booth,Kesler and Kassian are all injured.

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Garrison-Hamhuis

Booth-Kesler-Kassian/Higgins
Edler-Bieksa


Kassian and Booth are just day to day. They'll be ready for the opener
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:06 PM

He's not going to be better than I expected.

I'm on record saying on CDC that Garrison would be the best UFA signing of the summer.

Parise and Surer got all the headlines but Garrison is the bet signing all things considered including his cap hit and the impact he will have on the Canucks.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:11 PM

He's not going to be better than I expected.

I'm on record saying on CDC that Garrison would be the best UFA signing of the summer.

Parise and Surer got all the headlines but Garrison is the bet signing all things considered including his cap hit and the impact he will have on the Canucks.


Agree absolutely.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:12 PM

well , i like optimistic people over pessimistic people so i wont flame you

but he is a good signing , hopefully he can take over where erhoff left off
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:14 PM

For those who dont know garrison posted I think it was the 2nd or first highest relative corsi the years he played left side stay at home defender, then when he got put onto the right side for offense he put up 17 goals I believe? and another 15+ assists. He is going to be a very solid D man.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:23 PM

Mr. Reputable,I believe Hamhuis and Garrison had a desire to come home and play in B.C..

With the gifting of Tanev to this club via Gagner that is three of the top six d men and two of the top four that Gillis performed little to nothing but have to sign their contracts.

Re: That's why MG is one of the best GM in the NHL. Mr. Reputable
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:26 PM

Kassian and Booth are just day to day. They'll be ready for the opener


Kassian.Yes.
Booth:MRI does not sound like a guy that is going to skate anytime soon.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:30 PM

Mr. Reputable,I believe Hamhuis and Garrison had a desire to come home and play in B.C..

With the gifting of Tanev to this club via Gagner that is three of the top six d men and two of the top four that Gillis performed little to nothing but have to sign their contracts.

Re: That's why MG is one of the best GM in the NHL. Mr. Reputable


And don't forget that Gillis had no part in drafting Edler or Bieksa. All you MG fanboys have your heads so far up his *** that you can't see ... anymore. One of the best in the league? Maybe by virtue of the fact that there are only 30 GMs... but that's all.

Edited by hockeyville88, 14 January 2013 - 11:17 PM.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:32 PM

Garrisons offensive talents are well documented, but its his defensive play that impresses me.

- + 6 on a Florida blue line that featured no other + players. Getting a majority of his points on the PP makes that an even more impressive stat
- Played over 23 mins a game last season, plays in all situations (2:34 sh and 2:31 pp per game)
- If you compare his stats to our blue line from last season he would be 3rd hits, 2nd blocks, 1st giveaways (by a huge margin given his ice time)

So we can gather from his stats he is physical, isnt afraid to step into the shooting lanes, and is extremely responsible with the puck. Even if you were to take away his offence he would still be a great defenceman. Certainly an upgrade over Salo, if not simply because of his physical play, his ability to eat up minutes, and is quite mobile.

I think many here will be pleasantly surprised
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:35 PM

Garrison had the best relative corsi on the Panthers last season - he was a +10.8 despite facing the second strongest quality of competition among Panthers defensemen.
In his rookie season his rel.corsi was -0.8 - yet he had only 42.2% offensive zone starts and faced the strongest quality of competition - stronger than Weaver - and the two faced the best quality opposition by a significant margin.

Outstanding numbers on both accounts - and when you look at his fundamentals, his positioning, ability to move the puck, size and his shot, it's hard not to see a lot of potential there, particularly when he'll be playing with every bit as high quality of players.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:40 PM

To be honest I don't know a whole lot about garrisons game other than he put up decent numbers last season.What I'm wondering and hoping is he the type of player that can bring some real nastiness to the back end.If he can do that and help our power play I think we have a winner.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:44 PM

And don't forget that Gillis had no part in drafting Edler or Bieksa. All you MG fanboys have your heads so far up his *** that you can't see sh*t anymore. One of the best in the league? Maybe by virtue of the fact that there are only 30 GMs... but that's all.


I'm not trying to say MG is a god, but are you trying to say that the 30 GM's, NHL exec's, and Hockey Media that vote on the NHL GM of the year don't know anything?

If you don't give MG at least some credit for making some good moves, you lose credibility yourself unfortunately.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:46 PM

How long until Garrison has a game with a couple of bad giveaways and is -2 and everyone flips on him calling him an awful signing.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 08:08 PM

Lets hope AV doesn't ruin him. ;)
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 08:09 PM

To be honest I don't know a whole lot about garrisons game other than he put up decent numbers last season.What I'm wondering and hoping is he the type of player that can bring some real nastiness to the back end.If he can do that and help our power play I think we have a winner.


He's not the nasty 'keep your head up' type player - he is physical and aggressive but not a third pairing type that is going to regularly leave players needing the trainers to come wipe them off the boards if that's what you're hoping for. He takes very few penalties. He can help the power play, he can contribute to more puck possession, he has a heavy shot, he can kill penalties, and he can certainly reduce scoring chances by the opposition. I think we have a winner.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 08:12 PM

Strange, I could have swore it was the 2nd day of training camp
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