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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:02 PM

Prince Harry: Shooting Hellfire Missiles At Insurgents Is Like 'Playing Video Games'

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Britain's Prince Harry, who compared shooting insurgents in Afghanistan to playing video games, has probably developed a mental problem, the Taliban said Tuesday.

"There are 49 countries with their powerful military failing in the fight against the mujahideen, and now this prince comes and compares this war with his games, PlayStation or whatever he calls it," Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid told AFP.

Harry, third in line to the throne, said he had killed Taliban insurgents during a 20-week posting flying scores of missions over the restive southern province of Helmand in an Apache attack helicopter.
As co-pilot, Harry was in charge of the weapons systems in a two-man cockpit, firing Hellfire air-to-surface missiles, rockets and a 30-millimetre gun. He described the weapons systems as a joy.
"It's a joy for me because I'm one of those people who loves playing PlayStation and Xbox, so with my thumbs I like to think I'm probably quite useful," he said in interviews released Monday after the end of his posting.

"This is a serious war, a historic war, resistance for us, for our people," Mujahid told AFP by telephone from an undisclosed location.

"But we don't take his comments very seriously, as we have all seen and heard that many foreign soldiers, occupiers who come to Afghanistan, develop some kind of mental problems on their way out."

Asked by Britain's Press Association if he had killed from the cockpit, Harry said: "Yeah, so lots of people have.

"Take a life to save a life," he shrugged. "If there's people trying to do bad stuff to our guys, then we'll take them out of the game."

The last time the Taliban suggested a foreign fighter had mental problems was when an American soldier was arrested on suspicion of killing 16 villagers in their homes during a lone night rampage in March 2012.

Staff Sergeant Robert Bales is on trial in the US, facing 16 murder charges. Seventeen of the 22 people killed or wounded were women or children and almost all were shot in the head.

The Taliban have been waging an insurgency in Afghanistan for 11 years since being ousted from power for harbouring al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden after the 9/11 attacks on the United States.
During the war, they have faced more than 140,000 troops from over 50 countries but remain a serious threat to the Western-backed government with NATO troops due to withdraw in 2014.
"We have always wanted to capture or kill this prince, but he was mostly kept inside, safe, and in guarded places underground," said the Taliban spokesman, Mujahid.

"At one point when our mujahideen attacked the airport, we were aware of his presence there but he was hastily flown away."

This was a reference to a major Taliban attack on Camp Bastion in Helmand last September when Britain's defence minister admitted that Harry had been moved to a secure location.
Taliban commandos, armed with suicide vests, guns and rockets, and wearing US uniforms, breached the outer wall of Camp Bastion and destroyed six US fighter jets in unprecedented damage in the war.

The prince flies a £45-million ($71-million, 54-million-euro) aircraft, part of NATO's uncontested air power in Afghanistan where the Taliban are armed mainly with assault rifles, machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades.

The Islamists also use suicide attacks and homemade bombs which cause most of the casualties among both foreign troops and civilians in the Afghan war.


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Taliban retaliate after Prince Harry compares fighting to a video game

Afghan militants scornful of Queen's grandson, saying helicopter co-pilot 'doesn't have the brain to know there is a war here'



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Prince Harry plays a video game at Camp Bastion, Afghanistan, with fellow Apache pilot Simon Beattie. Responding to Harry's comparison of firing from an Apache to PlayStation, the Taliban said: 'I think he has a mental problem, that’s why he is saying it is a game.' Photograph: John Stillwell/Reuters



Prince Harry's remarks that his job as a co-pilot in an Apache attack helicopter required him to "take a life to save a life" may have disconcerted some squeamish westerners. But it was Captain Wales's somewhat blasé attitude to fighting the hardline rebels that has most riled the Taliban.

An indignant Taliban spokesman said the young prince was a coward who ran away from fighting the mujahideen, or "holy warriors", as the militants like to call themselves.

"I don't believe that he participated in the fighting," said Zabiullah Mujahid. "Maybe he has seen the mujahideen in a movie, but that's it."

The young prince's comparing his job as co-pilot gunner to a game on a video console in his interview with the Press Association, reported widely on Monday, appeared to have most needled Mujahid, who poured scorn on Harry's 20-week deployment in Helmand.

He accused Harry, who has now completed two tours in one of Afghanistan's roughest provinces, of cowardice and staying away from the fight.

"I think he has a mental problem, that's why he is saying it is a game," he said. "These kind of people live like diplomats in Afghanistan, they can't risk themselves by standing against the mujahideen."
The spokesman, thought to be several different people who use the same name to speak to the media, had clearly been pondering Harry's widely reported comments before the Guardian contacted him at an undisclosed location on Tuesday.

The prince, who was in charge of firing the Apache's Hellfire air-to-surface missiles, rockets and 30mm gun, called his job a "joy" in interviews released on Monday.

"It's a joy for me because I'm one of those people who loves playing PlayStation and Xbox, so with my thumbs I like to think I'm probably quite useful," he said.

Mujahid concluded that Harry must have been involved in a different war from the Taliban's "historic struggle".

"He never participated in a war operation so that's why he can't see the UK casualties, the UK economic damages and the lost soldiers' lives in Helmand," he said.

In fact the prince is a strong supporter of charities supporting injured soldiers, including Help for Heroes. In 2011 he joined wounded servicemen in a fundraising trek to the North Pole.
Mujahid insisted he was not angry about Harry's remarks because "he doesn't have the brain to know there is a war here".

And he seized on reports that Harry was kept at a secure location last September when a team of 15 insurgents wearing US military uniforms and suicide vests sneaked on to Camp Bastion, the air base where the prince was deployed, killing two soldiers and destroying six Harrier jets.

"There were always bodyguards with him to protect him, always keeping him away from the area of war or making plans to keep him away," Mujahid said.The Taliban have claimed in the past that the prince was a target of their attack on the base.



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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:07 PM

With all the electronic equipment, IR screens, auto targeting etc etc it probably is just like playing a video game. Its not cool that its actually people's lives but the comparison probably isn't wrong.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:12 PM

Consider the source of the comments against Harry....... that pretty much says it all. You can take any comment out of context and turn it to suit your own personal agenda. And the Taliban have their own agenda to be sure. Filing it under BS, along with everything that comes from the Taliban. They have some gall bringing up 'cowardice'......this from a group so petrified of women becoming stronger and smarter that they throw acid in the faces of preteen girls.......uh huh, ok......as I said, consider the source.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:15 PM

Just ban Activision from making their crap Call of Duty games, and we'll be good.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:16 PM

Afghan militants scornful of Queen's grandson, saying helicopter co-pilot 'doesn't have the brain to know there is a war here


Since when are brains required for enlistment?
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:16 PM

Despite his inane comments, smoking pot, offensive party costumes and getting nude photos leaked, he does show more balls (excuse the pun) and seems to have earned more stripes to be king than his brother William.

I wonder what his late mother Diana would think of his love for war.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:18 PM

True story.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:29 PM

Prince Harry needs to get serious.

Earning your 72 virgins isn't some sort of game.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:31 PM

I think operating a chopper's weapon systems would be similar to a video game. Fighting on the ground however most certainly wouldn't be.


And that I find that "correspondent's" reaction amusing.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:34 PM

"Friendly AC-130 above".
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:41 PM

Prince Harry needs to get serious.

Earning your 72 virgins isn't some sort of game.


That's when the games begin!
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:42 PM

Piss off the already pissed off Taliban, fantastic idea.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:43 PM

You guys are too PC.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:22 PM

So?
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:26 PM

The Taliban should stick to fighting little girls.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:38 PM

Just ban Activision from making their crap Call of Duty games, and we'll be good.


Because of course we never had wars and violence before violent video games, movies, and death metal.

Ah for the good ol' days when you compared mowing down enemy planes to shooting turkeys.

This whole soldiers being desensitized to killing is hardly a new phenom. Check out the attitudes of some of the WW2 media at the time. They would make Harry's comparisons seem benign.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:46 PM

Prince Harry needs to get serious.

Earning your 72 virgins isn't some sort of game.

You sure it's 72? That sounds a bit low.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 02:54 PM

It's not just a first-world military that's lost to a bunch of farmers and shepherds...it's ALL the first-world militaries AND the military forces of international communism, all in the last three decades. What can the explanation for this be? When people say the see the hand of God at work in this conflict, it's a tough thing to deny given the circumstances, bringing low the mighty and humbling the powerful, using a small and backwards nation, a people with nothing to bring down the soviets and americans who feel that they are by rights kings and rulers of the world...there's a certain poetry to it.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:02 PM

Harry likes killing.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:18 PM

You guys are too PC.

Pious and PC.

And one of the guys in those pictures looks a little like Burnaby Joe.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:23 PM

The Coward Prince.

When enemy attacked the base he was at the Coward flew away to a safe location. But he finds joy in killing ppl from far away.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:34 PM

Consider the source of the comments against Harry....... that pretty much says it all. You can take any comment out of context and turn it to suit your own personal agenda. And the Taliban have their own agenda to be sure. Filing it under BS, along with everything that comes from the Taliban. They have some gall bringing up 'cowardice'......this from a group so petrified of women becoming stronger and smarter that they throw acid in the faces of preteen girls.......uh huh, ok......as I said, consider the source.


The source was the British military. The article is from the Guardian, a British New Paper.

The Coward ran away to a safe location when his base came under attack. It's easy to sit in a helicopter and push buttons to kill ppl, not so brave when the enemy was knocking at his door.

A man be damned if he ever runs like that to leave his brethren fight and die. What else do you expect form a bastard I guess.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:34 PM

Honestly, we haven't seen a full-out 'non-coward' war since WW2. It was also the bloodiest war to date.


Now we have wars which insurgents hide in their bunkers waiting for troops to come by and trip over their roadside bombs, but those troops are instead hiding in their bunkers waiting for insurgents to pop out of their bunkers so they can fall victim to video game-guided hellfire missile attack.

Both sides are indeed fighting in a cowardly fashion. Both sides are also smart. The alternative, going out and facing your enemy head-on, usually means a quick death.


Could you imagine, though, how big of a massacre an all-out WW3 would be? Even without nukes, the death count in a next world war would be astounding. The are just so many ways to kill people these days.

But on that note, i don't think WW3 is going to happen, at least not an 'all-out' one, on account of all the cowardace shown by all military sides, not to mention the internet serving as a global village unification device.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:37 PM

He's a prince. Did anyone expect him to have a good grasp on reality? He lives in a fantasy world.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:39 PM

It only counts if he was yelling with every shot.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:41 PM

Because of course we never had wars and violence before violent video games, movies, and death metal.

Ah for the good ol' days when you compared mowing down enemy planes to shooting turkeys.

This whole soldiers being desensitized to killing is hardly a new phenom. Check out the attitudes of some of the WW2 media at the time. They would make Harry's comparisons seem benign.


He was making fun of Call of Duty.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:43 PM

Honestly, we haven't seen a full-out 'non-coward' war since WW2. It was also the bloodiest war to date.


Now we have wars which insurgents hide in their bunkers waiting for troops to come by and trip over their roadside bombs, but those troops are instead hiding in their bunkers waiting for insurgents to pop out of their bunkers so they can fall victim to video game-guided hellfire missile attack.

Both sides are indeed fighting in a cowardly fashion. Both sides are also smart. The alternative, going out and facing your enemy head-on, usually means a quick death.


Could you imagine, though, how big of a massacre an all-out WW3 would be? Even without nukes, the death count in a next world war would be astounding. The are just so many ways to kill people these days.

But on that note, i don't think WW3 is going to happen, at least not an 'all-out' one, on account of all the cowardace shown by all military sides, not to mention the internet serving as a global village unification device.


If this was WW2 style ethics they would warn that if the Taliban don't surrender that massive firebombings that burn the city to the ground would happen in Kandahar, then Medina, and then a nuclear bomb dropped right on top of their holiest shrine in Mecca. And they would have about a week to accept complete capitulation. And if they didn't capitulate they would follow through.

Pockets on the ground that refused to give up would be burned out of their holes with flamethrowers and if they loaded it up with civilians they would simply be part and parcel of the BBQ.

Make no mistake that the western world if threatened enough has no qualms with playing dirty.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:45 PM

He was making fun of Call of Duty.


I am making fun of people that actually blame Call of Duty for violent behavior.

I actually heard on analyst say the reason Bliz-Activision stock stays low is people are worried someone is going to either sue the company or try to ban the game because of the school shootings. Needless to say there's enough people out there that actually believe it.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:50 PM

I am making fun of people that actually blame Call of Duty for violent behavior.

I actually heard on analyst say the reason Bliz-Activision stock stays low is people are worried someone is going to either sue the company or try to ban the game because of the school shootings. Needless to say there's enough people out there that actually believe it.

Having worked for the game industry I can tell you stocks are low because the market is volatile for companies that develop and publish for the giants.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:50 PM

The source was the British military. The article is from the Guardian, a British New Paper.

The Coward ran away to a safe location when his base came under attack. It's easy to sit in a helicopter and push buttons to kill ppl, not so brave when the enemy was knocking at his door.

A man be damned if he ever runs like that to leave his brethren fight and die. What else do you expect form a bastard I guess.


Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?

I said:

Consider the source of the comments against Harry


Did you miss this part?

An indignant Taliban spokesman said the young prince was a coward who ran away from fighting the mujahideen, or "holy warriors", as the militants like to call themselves.


He accused Harry, who has now completed two tours in one of Afghanistan's roughest provinces, of cowardice and staying away from the fight.


Mujahid insisted he was not angry about Harry's remarks because "he doesn't have the brain to know there is a war here".


Geez......... :picard:

Perhaps when you try walking a mile in the shoes of Harry you can comment. There are things beyond his control when it comes to fighting on the front lines on the ground. It's rather cowardly on your part to hide behind your keyboard and take potshots at someone whose life you really know nothing about. Do you feel the same way about generals and colonels who stay behind the front lines? Yeah, thought not.

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