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#61 Blackberries

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:35 PM

Say Ballard continues to play like a top 4 D man, I know this may sound like an overpayment but

To Vancouver: Jarome Iginla

To Calgary: Keith Ballard, Brendan Gaunce, 2013 1st



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what the heck seriously, a good sized canadian two way center and a possible new cornerstone for this team




for a guy who only has 1 or 2 years left tops.


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:35 PM

My view is that Iginla would be fired up in the playoffs with any chance to win a cup. The last few years Iginla has been slow starting the season, this year is no different and I think his game will pick up by mid season.

The problem is with his cap hit of 7 Mill, it would be tough to make room, I also know that we will have cap troubles next year and will have to dump salary. With the way Ballard is playing I really don't think it should be him going.

My suggestion, offer up Booth straight up for Iginla. Calgary gets a replacement winger thats under contract for a few years and we rid ourself of his cap hit. Booth has been absolutely useless for us when he's healthy, which isn't nearly often enough.

We get a guy that will help us tremendously in the playoffs, Calgary gets something tangible.


Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Although again, there is no cap space to worry about - Iginla is on a contract year. If he chooses to stay, that's another story.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:39 PM

Everyone is missing the whole point of the deal. So what if Canucks gives up something that helps the Flames make the playoffs in the future if it means they can get that first Cup now?

But I do agree with you guys on one thing: the Flames would be loathe to part ways with Iginla, especially to the Canucks. However, all things considered, Iginla has little other option to get a Cup. Canucks are far and away his best hope.

Keep in mind, Iginla still has been one of the most consistent scorers of the decade and perhaps one of the most clutch performers of all time. There's no reason to believe that pairing him with elite playmakers like the Sedins can help him revive - and they'll need him to get past the hump.

Keep in mind too, Iginla's on the last year of his contract, so the Flames cannot ask too high a price if they did make a trade. A 30th overall pick is a small price to pay for someone who can get you a Cup this season.

Just saying though, the team as-is is in no shape to win the Cup. Sedins need a big clutch power forward to get them over the hump.


For them to trade him to us it would require more than it would for other teams.

Which would likely mean the asking price would begin with Kassian. Something I am not willing to do, not at all.

It's just not a possibility, it's like us trading Schneider to Edmonton for anything less the the big 5.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:47 PM

An option that may potentially be better for us is having MG re-visit/inquire of the availability of Shane Doan...looks like the Jamison ownership has fallen through, so Doan may be available and may be willing to waive his NTC. If doable, it would be great to see a trade that brings Doan to us for David Booth and a prospect package of Rodin and Connauton.

Phoenix has a good group of young Euros, including Korpikoski and Ekman-Larsson, so Rodin might be a good complement for them; and in spite of their backend is still pretty young with Morris and Michalek being the only ones over 30, Connauton probably has a better shot at cracking the Coyotes roster than ours in the near term future. In Booth, they are getting a guy who, perhaps could be described as a younger, "Doan-light" (i.e., prorated over 82 game schedule, similar, albeit lower numbers over the past 3 years; 10 lbs. lighter; more prone to injury than Doan -- but who isnt'? --...and both are men of faith, though you don't hear a lot of PTL from Doan as you do with Booth).

We'd be taking on more cap hit with Doan (vs. Booth), but that could be off-set by guys like Jensen stepping and taking a roster spot on an ETL contract.

Other options packaged with Booth to consider in a trade if the Coyotes aren't looking for prospects:

-Ballard
-Raymond


That's another option - but Doan has a longer contract in place. Coyotes would ask for someone like Kesler, given the length of his contract.

For what he's worth, he's a good pf and leader, but Iginla has even more. Two goals in 2002 Olympic gold-medal finals, assisted on Crosby's gold-medal winner in 2010 (actually, Jovo assisted on Sakic's 2002 gold-winner). Led an underdog Flames team to the Finals, and came within one goal of winning it all. That's enough a statement to make Iginla one of the greatest clutch players of our generation.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:52 PM

won't happen... then the flames will have kiprussof and luongo.... or shneider... and no way will the flames trade iggy to us no way.... although i wouldn't mind seeing iggy play here...


Luongo or Schneider for Iginla? No, that would undo the Canucks' best effort to get the Cup. Plus, look at how many years the goalies have on their contract, vs. Iginla's final year in 2013.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:01 PM

If Iginla comes to Vancouver, he'll be a solid second line winger?


If Iginla came to Vancouver, most I'd give is Ballard + first rounder for a solid FIRST line winger to get the Sedins awake in the playoffs. (Keep in mind his age and that he's on the last year of his contract, so no need to part with Gaunce - or Landeskog if you're the Avalanche).

Need I remind everyone the Sedins disappear in the playoffs when facing tough teams?

Again, Iginla is running out of options. Other than Vancouver, his best option would be to go to Chicago, but I don't see them trying to trade for him (not as desperate to win, already has the proven playoff performers).
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:04 PM

For them to trade him to us it would require more than it would for other teams.

Which would likely mean the asking price would begin with Kassian. Something I am not willing to do, not at all.

It's just not a possibility, it's like us trading Schneider to Edmonton for anything less the the big 5.


If it gets you the Cup, it's worth it. I highly doubt they'll demand more than a roster player like Ballard plus a pick. Ballard just may be a better fit there.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:06 PM

I doubt he'll be going anywhere. We should have tried (maybe we did?) to get him in 2006, now is too late. I've always loved the guy and I'm sorry to say:OP, that's just a terrible idea, sorry.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:07 PM

If it gets you the Cup, it's worth it. I highly doubt they'll demand more than a roster player like Ballard plus a pick. Ballard just may be a better fit there.


With the way Iginla has been playing, Kassian is just as likely to get us a cup.

And if we trade Kassian for Iginla, and Iginla doesn't bring us a cup (which is the far more likely scenerio) then we are major losers. And it is a one of the worst trades in franchise history.

And no to trade Iginla here they are looking for key futures, that is what they are looking for from alot of teams but from us they would be looking for our very best.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:31 PM

A BIG FAT NO
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:46 PM

Lol at people saying my proposal is bad when some of the same people are saying the most they would give up is Booth or Raymond or Ballard + a 1st. That's laughable from a Calgary standpoint. To get the Flames to trade Jarome Iginla, especially within the Northwest division, you gotta give a good price and Ballard, Gaunce and a 1st would at least get the negtiations going.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:52 PM

Lol at people saying my proposal is bad when some of the same people are saying the most they would give up is Booth or Raymond or Ballard + a 1st. That's laughable from a Calgary standpoint. To get the Flames to trade Jarome Iginla, especially within the Northwest division, you gotta give a good price and Ballard, Gaunce and a 1st would at least get the negtiations going.


Yeah, might not be too bad if you get the Cup - it will mean that Calgary will suddenly take off and become a threat for the Canucks, but all that for the one elusive ring...

Iginla though won't command so high a long-term price. He's on his last year of contract.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:53 PM

A BIG FAT NO


to winning the Stanley Cup. If you don't want to get on the ark, well I won't force you.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:12 PM

I have my doubts that it'll happen. Iginla and the Flames organization have both publicly stated that they are happy with the current situation. If he was traded I doubt that it would be to Vancouver since they're NW Division Rivals.


Iginla is a really classy hockey player. He is by far my favorite non-Canuck. I'd love to see him in a Canucks sweater playing with the twins. Talk about instant domination with the twins passing skills and Iginla's prowess and ability to finish. He is also super motivated in the playoff's could be the spark that this team needs to push them over the edge.




Trevor Lindens last game. Fast forward to 4:40 to see Iginla's classy move, he also potted his 50th goal of the season in this game.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:25 PM

Don't want that washed up bum near my team, gimme a break, look at how easily he get shoved off the puck nowadays, he's done, his time is coming to an end in the NHL. Canucks can get so much more value back in a Luongo trade than that, once a flame always a flame.


11 consecutive 30+ goal seasons including last year, he's 35 and still puts up the same numbers he did 10 years ago. Yeah, the guys a total bum. Take off your homer glasses there buddy.

I didn't see anyone suggesting we trade Lu for him, that would just be stoopid. Have another hit off the crack pipe there thug life.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:37 PM

Gillis would be full retard to accept even that. People like to rip on Booth here, but he's a hell of a hockey player when he's healthy and brings a nice mix of speed and grit. Giving Calgary a first rounder is an awful idea no matter what.


Booth sucks. He's had one 30 goal season in 6 years! He isn't that great! Not worth 4.5M, that's for sure!
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:47 PM

Their price would be a top 9 roster player or a highly touted prospect (no sauve's, etc,) and a pick.


more like top 6, not top 9. The price would be even higher if the deal was within the division
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 08:01 PM

I'd love this. Are you guys crazy? I don't want to trade our prospects/picks, but I want this guy. He deserves to get to playoffs and further and we can do this. I can't believe people are saying they wouldn't want him.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 08:08 PM

would love to have him on the team but it probably will never happen, esp in a trade we would have to give up to much of our future to have him for only a couple years.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 08:39 PM

Just for kicks, would you do this deal?

Iginla and a first for Schneider and a third?
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:08 PM

Igninla is brutal in his own end. Not the kind of player , the canucks need.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:49 PM

With the way Iginla has been playing, Kassian is just as likely to get us a cup.

And if we trade Kassian for Iginla, and Iginla doesn't bring us a cup (which is the far more likely scenerio) then we are major losers. And it is a one of the worst trades in franchise history.

And no to trade Iginla here they are looking for key futures, that is what they are looking for from alot of teams but from us they would be looking for our very best.


No, just deal Ballard and Higgins for Iginla + conditional second rounder. You'll still have Kassian.

Kass has the all-round ability, but he doesn't have Iginla's experience, leadership, or clutch ability. When Iggy goes into a big game, he transforms into a different player and can pot big numbers, as well as be a physical force. And he's not too bad in his own end - AV can help work on that aspect.

All I can say is, this is Vancouver's best chance not to miss out on the Cup.

Edited by VanNuck, 11 February 2013 - 10:50 PM.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:02 PM

What about......

To Vancouver:Brendan Morrow and Jaime Oleksiak,

To Dallas: Mason Raymond and Andrew Alberts and Connauton.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:07 PM

What about......

To Vancouver:Brendan Morrow and Jaime Oleksiak,

To Dallas: Mason Raymond and Andrew Alberts and Connauton.

Dallas laughs, hangs up, then tweets about for everyone else to laugh about it.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:21 PM

What about......

To Vancouver:Brendan Morrow and Jaime Oleksiak,

To Dallas: Mason Raymond and Andrew Alberts and Connauton.


Dallas declines cause of Oleksiak.

Morrow could be had for cheap though, not sure why we would want him. He's not really an upgrade on anyone.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:22 PM

No, just deal Ballard and Higgins for Iginla + conditional second rounder. You'll still have Kassian.

Kass has the all-round ability, but he doesn't have Iginla's experience, leadership, or clutch ability. When Iggy goes into a big game, he transforms into a different player and can pot big numbers, as well as be a physical force. And he's not too bad in his own end - AV can help work on that aspect.

All I can say is, this is Vancouver's best chance not to miss out on the Cup.


It would cost us more than that. Again for them to trade us Iginla, Kassian would have to be in the deal.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:39 PM

It would cost us more than that. Again for them to trade us Iginla, Kassian would have to be in the deal.


For a player with only months left? That would be overpayment.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:49 PM

For a player with only months left? That would be overpayment.


I know, thats why we arent going to do it.
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 12:07 AM

to winning the Stanley Cup. If you don't want to get on the ark, well I won't force you.


Trading for Iginla won't bring us a cup
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 06:52 PM

I know, thats why we arent going to do it.


It's Iginla yes, but get real, even Feaster knows you can't expect a big price for someone with just months on his contract. Besides, they want Iginla to win as much as anyone else - but they know it won't be in Calgary. They could try Chicago or San Jose, although I don't see either of them making the deal when they already have Cup-winners and experienced vets.
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