elvis15 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Hopefully this impacts the team in the same way our 'goaltending controversy' has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 You say "history between the two" as if they're a former couple trying to decide who gets the dog. Seriously, I know you hope it's just a case of miscommunication, but if that's what you think, why would you bring up the possibility of controversy in the first place? And obviously there is going to be mis-communication on his injury status, he's the one with the injury and he's the one that decides if he's feeling 100%. But it's nothing more than mis-communication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkeeterHansen Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I didn't said I HOPED that it was miscommunication... that is different. You guys are being silly suggesting that this is something that I am just inventing and that everything has always been all smiles and roses between the camps. http://blog.playnow....er-injury-saga/ http://sports.nation...aults-critique/ http://digitaljourna.../article/318001 http://www.vancouver...3518/story.html http://www.sbnation....-update-canucks http://www.vanhockey...eault-comments/ Yep.... I am just making up the issues between the two camps. That is just a small Google sampling of the stories out there about their "history" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoosh Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Big words this season; Lockout, labor dispute, controversy... And I Vancouver, everything seems to be about controversy these days. When will we get the Volpatti - Weise controversy; The town ain't big enough for the two of us, who is going to leave!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooBie604 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I think that is a little naive. There is a clear and public history between the two where they have argued using the media regarding his status. Kesler's agent has also publicly disagreed repeatedly with statements that the team has made regarding his client's status. Gilman and MG are on public record on the radio recently about how pissed off they were with Kesler's agent about him spouting off. If you recall the interviews, they were very terse in regards to how the relationship was with Kesler's camp. It is simply not just a repeated coincidence that it keep cropping up with Kesler and not other players. In the audio... Kesler sounded really annoyed when asked if he was playing tomorrow. He said "Why would you say that? There is still no timeline" It isn't clear whether he was annoyed at the media question or about the inference that him playing was a done deal. Lets just hope this was an innocent mis-communication like I said was a possibility and not just a repeat of what we have seen over and over with these guys. Suggesting that there hasn't been any issue like some of you are is just ridiculous and ignoring PUBLIC statements... not things that are speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 What people are finally realizing that AV has lost the room and players have lost respect for AV. Keslers and other know they need a coach with offensive ideas and why AV needs togo. They've already devolped the offense as far as they can on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your New Coach Mr. Tippett Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Dale Weise went to Denmark just to try to trump Hansen and steal his spotlight. The media just hasn't caught on yet, but then do, cue the controversy. It is causing locker room strife, one will have to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuxFan09 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Like there isn't enough to talk about with our great play of late you "fans" have to make something up out of nothing. So sad. Get a grip already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Cmon people you all know that the Nucks are a very tight lipped organization, no info is every really divulged until it is time . Any other speculation on this is only fanning the flames of bulls..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler's Nose Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuxFan09 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Coach says player is medically cleared and ready to go. Player says it's just a step and there's no timeline. Pretty cut and dry that there's a contradiction there. There may be no controversy and if there isn't, cut the BS already. That's the way I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 What people are finally realizing that AV has lost the room and players have lost respect for AV. Keslers and other know they need a coach with offensive ideas and why AV needs togo. They've already devolped the offense as far as they can on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooBie604 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Coach says player is medically cleared and ready to go. Player says it's just a step and there's no timeline. Pretty cut and dry that there's a contradiction there. There may be no controversy and if there isn't, cut the BS already. That's the way I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuxFan09 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 To sum up, I think controversy is the wrong terminology. There is no big dramatic controversy going on in the Canucks' lockerroom between AV and Kesler. However, the coach and Kesler have consistently contradicted - aka more than once - eachother regarding Kesler's health status, which suggests that there is something going on. If there wasn't, the two would have gotten themselves on the same page and we wouldn't be having this discussion. Fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuxFan09 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Or coach states a fact that he is medically cleared to play and has yet to tell the player when he wants him back in the line-up so player says there is no timeline yet. That's my take on it. But everyone sees things differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ramsay Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 When AV says that's he's ready to go and Kesler says he's not and that it's a small step, clearly, both sides have different points of views. AV thinks and feels that Kes is ready to go which is why he's saying it. That's his belief. Kesler, wants to take more time to make sure he's 110% because from years past, he's rushed his rehab and look what happened. I'm sure Kesler wants to play it safe now and knowing that the team is 8-2-2, he can take more time coming back, getting more practices in with the guys, and then he'll finally say he's ready to go. It's mis-communication. Just because the coach thinks he's good to go doesn't mean that the player is actually ready to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tottenhamninja Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Can't believe I waisted 4 minutes readin this idiocy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I like Kesler, but he is still working on taking criticism - last year when AV suggested that he could use his linemates a little better, it was a fair enough comment imo. I think Kesler is also a headstrong guy and that attribute has very positive aspects (ie his drive and competitiveness) but sometimes not always so constructive. In either event, I look at these a hiccups - I think both Kesler and AV are pretty reasonable in the end, and probably rethink things a little and let go of them. I don't see much of a controversy here - but I also don't see Provost as the type of poster who attempts to stir any up - just an opinion/concern expressed here that we'll all infer different levels of meaning from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEAN HARNETT Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 There very well could be a rift between coach and player here, but that doesn't necessarly mean Kesler wants out or the team wants to trade him. I'm sure Kesler loves being a Canuck, but maybe he isnt 100 % happy with the coach and management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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