Robongo Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 So this has been making the rounds on the net in support of ALS. To learn more about the challenge go to: http://time.com/3100272/als-ice-bucket-challenge/ BIssonnette puts all of the others to shame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desjardins' Mustache Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Wow, biznasty tops everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Wow, that was awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChill Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 He did a great job. More attention it gets for ALS the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 He really went next level. Anyone know what Cliff that's on? Is it the chief? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzy Mahmood Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Wow, biznasty tops everyone.the guy is a thug, i hope teams use their brains and keep him out of the nhl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.Kassian9 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Credit: NHL Memes (facebook) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 He really went next level. Anyone know what Cliff that's on? Is it the chief? Dont think so. Maybe Garibaldi glacier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedins 55 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Did Lebron do it because he was nominated and I can't find his video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Did Lebron do it because he was nominated and I can't find his video. You mean the guy that got carried off the court for having a cramp? He's probably worried he'll catch hypothermia or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fakename70 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 You mean the guy that got carried off the court for having a cramp? He's probably worried he'll catch hypothermia or something. Said from the relative comfort of your computer! How physical is YOUR day job by comparison? And, where's YOUR ice bucket challenge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Is this really the best way to spread ALS awareness? All that video really has are two links in the bottom corners that almost no one will press and a wannabe NHLer flying up to a mountain and dumping ice water on himself. I guess if it works, you can't really argue though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdatb Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Is this really the best way to spread ALS awareness? All that video really has are two links in the bottom corners that almost no one will press and a wannabe NHLer flying up to a mountain and dumping ice water on himself. I guess if it works, you can't really argue though.http://www.alsa.org/news/archive/als-ice-bucket-challenge.html Seems to me like it's working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Said from the relative comfort of your computer! How physical is YOUR day job by comparison? And, where's YOUR ice bucket challenge? LeBron? Is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Is this really the best way to spread ALS awareness? All that video really has are two links in the bottom corners that almost no one will press and a wannabe NHLer flying up to a mountain and dumping ice water on himself. I guess if it works, you can't really argue though. Support is up 1000%,something is working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 LeBron? Is that you? Uh oh... I think he might cramp up seeing you caught him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Bettman just did the ice bucket challenge. I've never felt sorry for ice water before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jovocop55 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 pk subban one was pretty good too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 A very well written article by someone who has his own charity, and studies this very issue: http://qz.com/249649/the-cold-hard-truth-about-the-ice-bucket-challenge/ I look at the camera, hold a bucket of ice water over my head, tip it upside down, post the video on social media and then nominate two others to do the same. Along the way, my nominees and I use the opportunity to donate to the ALS Association, a charity that fights amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (also called Lou Gerhig’s disease), a fatal neurodegenerative disease. Multiply this activity 70,000 times, and the result is that the ALS Association has received $3 million in additional donations. Via the ice bucket challenge, celebrities and the general public have fun and receive publicity; at the same time, millions of dollars are raised for a good cause. It’s a win-win, right? Sadly, things are not so simple. The key problem is funding cannibalism. That $3 million in donations doesn’t appear out of a vacuum. Because people on average are limited in how much they’re willing to donate to good causes, if someone donates $100 to the ALS Association, he or she will likely donate less to other charities. This isn’t just speculation. Research from my own non-profit, which raises money for the most effective global poverty charities, has found that, for every $1 we raise, 50¢ would have been donated anyway. Given our fundraising model, which asks for commitments much larger than the amount people typically donate, we have reason to think that this is a lower proportion than is typical for fundraising drives. So, because of the $3 million that the ALS Association has received, I’d bet that much more than $1.5 million has been lost by other charities. A similar phenomenon has been studied in the lab by psychologists. It’s called moral licensing: the idea that doing one good action leads one to compensate by doing fewer good actions in the future. In a recent experiment, participants either selected a product from a selection of mostly “green” items (like an energy-efficient light bulb) or from a selection of mostly conventional items (like a regular light bulb). They were then told to perform a supposedly unrelated task. However, in this second task, the results were self-reported, so the participants had a financial incentive to lie; and they were invited to pay themselves out of an envelope, so they had an opportunity to steal as well. What happened? People who had previously purchased a green product were significantly more likely to both lie and steal than those who had purchased the conventional product. Their demonstration of ethical behavior subconsciously gave them license to act unethically when the chance arose. Amazingly, even just saying that you’d do something good can cause the moral self-licensing effect. In another study, half the participants were asked to imagine helping a foreign student who had asked for assistance in understanding a lecture. They subsequently gave significantly less to charity when given the chance to do so than the other half of the participants, who had not been asked to imagine helping another student. The explanation behind moral licensing is that people are often more concerned about looking good or feeling good rather than doing good. If you “do your bit” by buying an energy-efficient lightbulb, then your status as a good human being is less likely to be called into question if you subsequently steal. In terms of the conditions for the moral licensing effect to occur, the ice bucket challenge is perfect. The challenge gives you a way to very publicly demonstrate your altruism via a painful task, despite actually accomplishing very little (on average, not including those who don’t donate at all, a $40 gift, or 0.07% of the average American household’s income): it’s geared up to make you feel as good about your actions as possible, rather than to ensure that your actions do as much good as possible. This why Caitlin Dewey, a blogger for the Washington Post who claims that we should praise the challenge for raising so much money, gets it all wrong. The ice bucket challenge has done one good thing, which is raise $3 million for the ALS Association. But it’s also done a really bad thing: take money and attention away from other charities and other causes. That means that, if we want to know whether the ice bucket challenge has been on balance a good thing for the world, we’ve got to assess how effective the ALS Associations is compared with other charities. If 50% of that $3 million would have been donated anyway, and if the ALS association is less than half as effective at turning donations into positive impact on people’s wellbeing than other charities are on average, then the fundraiser would actively be doing harm. It’s perfectly possible that this is the case: even though some charities are fantastically effective, many achieve very little. You just can’t know without doing some serious investigation. This isn’t to object to the ALS Association in particular. Almost every charity does the same thing — engaging in a race to the bottom where the benefits to the donor have to be as large as possible, and the costs as small as possible. (Things are even worse in the UK, where the reward of publicizing yourself all over social media comes at a suggested price of just £3 donated to MacMillan Cancer Support.) We should be very worried about this, because competitive fundraising ultimately destroys value for the social sector as a whole. We should not reward people for minor acts of altruism, when they could have done so much more, because doing so creates a culture where the correct response to the existence of preventable death and suffering is to give some pocket change. Cannibalism of funding among charities is a major problem. However, there is a solution. The moral licensing phenomenon doesn’t always happen: there is a countervailing psychological force, called commitment effects. If in donating to charity you don’t conceive of it as “doing your bit” but instead as taking one small step towards making altruism a part of your identity, then one good deed really will beget another. This means that we should tie new altruistic commitments to serious, long-lasting behavior change. Rather than making a small donation to a charity you’ve barely heard of, you could make a commitment to find out which charities are most cost-effective, and to set up an ongoing commitment to those charities that you conclude do the most good with your donations. Or you could publicly pledge to give a proportion of your income. These would be meaningful behavior changes: they would be structural changes to how you live your life; and you could express them as the first step towards making altruism part of your identity. No doubt that, if we ran such campaigns, the number of people who would do these actions would be smaller, but in the long term the total impact would be far larger. So, sure, pour a bucket of water over yourself, or go bungee jumping, or lie in a bathtub of beans, whatever. But only do these things if you connect these fundraisers with meaningful behavior change, otherwise your campaign, even if seemingly fantastically successful, could be doing more harm than good. 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Twilight Sparkle Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Credit: NHL Memes (facebook) yet somehow this guy makes more than all of us, and probably the guy who made that meme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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