aGENT Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, EdgarM said: Its funny I hear the same excuses when some talk about the Sedins at times. I have seen opportunities numerous times where Edler could finish a check and just decides not to. Other times I have seen him basically run over guys. He actually used to elevate his game in the playoffs but now I just see a disinterest in doing anymore then he has to. The worst was when Torts was the coach. He just stopped playing. I don't agree with the exhaustion excuse these guys are professional athletes, That's nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, J.R. said: They're both 'solid' #2D/1st pair D who would be phenomenal on a team's 2nd pair with less minutes and wear and tear. Otherwise, I agree with your post. I'm thinking that only a contending team would want either of these two players. I don't see them as 1st pairing on a contender; especially Edler. But yeah, they would be very good the 2nd pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 4 hours ago, IBatch said: More than Horvat? Wow maybe we should trade him then and focus our rebuild around Edler ( god help us ). He had a great tourney playing with good players. We should be happy for him and leave it at that. Pretty sure the returns on elder alone would be larger than the returns on Horvat alone at this point. In a couple of years, this statement will definitely be obsolete. Trading Edler gets the Canucks the most value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 hour ago, higgyfan said: IMO, a lot of fans overrate Tanav and underrate Edler. They both have their pros and cons to their games and would be of value to certain teams throughout the league. Edler being the more physical and offensive minded dman; while Tanev the defensive specialist. As most of us know (by now), Edler is clearly a 2nd pairing dman playing above his head for too many minutes. That's the way it will stay until Van finds a better LD that will slot into the top d pairing. They're both good players that would be solid 2nd pairing dmen on most teams (depending what a team's specific needs are). Tanav. I personally like to call him Tanuv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 12 minutes ago, higgyfan said: I'm thinking that only a contending team would want either of these two players. I don't see them as 1st pairing on a contender; especially Edler. But yeah, they would be very good the 2nd pairing. Edler, Kling would likely be the first pair on DAL and would be another step towards pushing them to a contender. So yeah.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, J.R. said: Edler, Kling would likely be the first pair on DAL and would be another step towards pushing them to a contender. So yeah.... But would Edler be willing to move in a trade? Would Dallas offer something of value? Does the hatred the two owners have scuttle any deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Ghostsof1915 said: But would Edler be willing to move in a trade? Would Dallas offer something of value? Does the hatred the two owners have scuttle any deal? Who knows, I was merely refuting the idea Edler (or Tanev for that matter) couldn't be a '1st pair D on a contender'. Sure, he might not be playing first pair in say Nashville, but then, neither is freaking Subban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 17 minutes ago, J.R. said: Edler, Kling would likely be the first pair on DAL and would be another step towards pushing them to a contender. So yeah.... In that case, I guess Dal would have to deal with the same issues as Van regarding Edler playing too many minutes against the league's top offensive players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, higgyfan said: In that case, I guess Dal would have to deal with the same issues as Van regarding Edler playing too many minutes against the league's top offensive players. Not if they have good depth in the pairings behind them and guys to take a share of the harder PK minutes etc so he's not forced to do it all. Not to mention better forwards who will also have the puck more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I would probably say Tanev is more valuable to Canucks fans, Edler is more valuable to the rest of the league. Undrafted, low scoring, defensive defensemen are not headline makers so I would say Tanev largely flies under the NHL radar, Edler has at least been an all-star and repear Swedish National Team member so he has some more exposure than Tanev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancouver Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 39 minutes ago, Me_ said: Pretty sure the returns on elder alone would be larger than the returns on Horvat alone at this point. In a couple of years, this statement will definitely be obsolete. Trading Edler gets the Canucks the most value. You can't possibly be serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, J.R. said: Not if they have good depth in the pairings behind them and guys to take a share of the harder PK minutes etc so he's not forced to do it all. Not to mention better forwards who will also have the puck more. That's a lot of 'ifs' for a team that were 24th overall in the standings this year. Regardless, I don't see Dallas paying 1st pairing price for Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, higgyfan said: That's a lot of 'ifs' for a team that were 24th overall in the standings this year. Regardless, I don't see Dallas paying 1st pairing price for Edler. They had injury troubles and their D and goaltending was always suspect. They've started moves to improve their goaltending with the Bishop acquisition. Edler, Kling Lindell, Honka Hamhuis, Johns Would be a VERY solid D core moving forward. I'd not be at all surprised if they would have interest in Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, J.R. said: They had injury troubles and their D and goaltending was always suspect. They've started moves to improve their goaltending with the Bishop acquisition. Edler, Kling Lindell, Honka Hamhuis, Johns Would be a VERY solid D core moving forward. I'd not be at all surprised if they would have interest in Edler. Perhaps, though I don't see it. The upcoming months will tell the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, higgyfan said: Perhaps, though I don't see it. The upcoming months will tell the story. 'Don't see' what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Benning , Linden and the owners do not have the balls to do what is best for the long term. That means that both of them will be here along with Miller. Same old moldy bread. Go with Marky and sign a backup. Cut back on the spending for a couple of years. They should be moving out the thirty somethings on this club and gathering assets. Accumulating picks and prospects should be the priority. This ownership has no long term vision. They only see next year rather then putting together a 5 year plan. Such a shame!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, appleboy said: Benning , Linden and the owners do not have the balls to do what is best for the long term. That means that both of them will be here along with Miller. Same old moldy bread. Go with Marky and sign a backup. Cut back on the spending for a couple of years. They should be moving out the thirty somethings on this club and gathering assets. Accumulating picks and prospects should be the priority. This ownership has no long term vision. They only see next year rather then putting together a 5 year plan. Such a shame!!! Based on what exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 minute ago, J.R. said: 'Don't see' what? I don't see that Dallas would be interested in acquiring Edler for their 1st pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 minute ago, J.R. said: Based on what exactly? Their past history. They will keep Edler and Tanev. They will resign Miller for two more years. They will say that they need to see what Green can do before making changes. The players deserve a chance. I will be surprised if they do anything. Same old same old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, higgyfan said: I don't see that Dallas would be interested in acquiring Edler for their 1st pairing. That's frankly silly. Why wouldn't they be? They may not be interested in paying the price to acquire him. Or likewise, Edler may have no interest in waiving to DAL but saying they wouldn't be interested in a solid #2D who's shown clear chemistry with Klingberg who could drastically help them round out a sub-par D core is preposterous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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