ABNucksfan Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Update: Matheson gets 2 game suspension by the league. Dops video included with nhl article. https://www.nhl.com/news/mike-matheson-suspended-two-games-for-actions-in-panthers-game-vs-canucks/c-300966742 https://www.tsn.ca/panthers-d-matheson-suspended-two-games-1.1192341 Pettersson out at least 7-10 days due to concussion https://www.tsn.ca/pettersson-concussion-out-at-least-7-10-days-1.1192045 https://www.nucksmisconduct.com/2018/10/14/17975598/you-want-blood-get-ready-to-lose-some I think this play deserves it’s own thread. https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1628158/green-calls-mathesons-hit-throw-down-of-pettersson-dirty-play Edit: Phone hearing set between league and Matheson: https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/panthers-matheson-hearing-hit-canucks-pettersson/ https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/michael-matheson-panthers-canucks-elias-pettersson-1.4862471 https://www.vancourier.com/pass-it-to-bulis/michael-matheson-should-be-suspended-for-hit-on-elias-pettersson-1.23463214 https://mobile.twitter.com/thestanchion/status/1051283450718638080 https://mobile.twitter.com/HockeyCentraI/status/1051302623259779072/video/1 https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1628122 https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/canucks-at-night-a-bright-light-goes-dark https://www.tsn.ca/six-takeaways-canucks-vs-panthers-1.1191531 Not sure how to make slow mo video... (give me a break my computer is from 2007... some of you were still in diapers) but I made my own slow mo it really show the ill intent of Matheson. IMG_4519 (1).mov https://mobile.twitter.com/TheStanchion/status/1051287025796571136 Hopefully these links work. More posts of twitter and news links are welcome. For newcomers who didn’t see it or are just learning about it now. Elias Pettersson was hit by Matheson late in the game against the Florida Panthers Saturday evening. Moments before the hit Pettersson made some unreal moves and made Matheson look ridiculously silly on the ice. It appears Matheson didn’t like it. He skated around the front of the net. Slammed his stick into EP’s groin area then hit him into the boards. After the hit Matheson then took an extra shot and slammed EP into the ice. Pettersson was injured on the play and left the game and didn’t return. Sounds like it was a head injury. https://mobile.twitter.com/imacSportsnet/status/1051305882808668161?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet There has been a lot of knee jerk reaction to the hit. With people calling out Matheson (even threatening harm on the streets). People calling out the Canucks players for not “Retaliating” or fighting. People calling out coach Green for not getting players to retaliate. First off let’s discuss what actually happened on the play from the players perspective. Not the armchair quarterback’s perspective. Pettersson was hit cleanly... away from the play after he had passed the puck. No one even thought anything of it until Pettersson couldn’t get back up. The refs, players and coaches didn’t see what really happened only Pettersson and Matheson know at that point. Then after video review it is made aware that Matheson has taken a few liberties and a teenager 5 years younger and 25 lbs lighter than him. Green made the right call. The players Made the right call. The refs didn’t see it. And after reviewing the play the NHL HAS to do something about it. If they don’t it will be pandemonium... It's time for the NHL to step up and show us the "NEW NHL" no more players policing players... I agree with the change the league is taking on liberties and retaliation, we can't have players skating around and smashing each other its asinine and criminal. As much as I loved the rock 'em sock 'em hockey of the good ol' days, its got to stop! The NHL needs to protect the players! I'm a big fan of the odd fight as long as guys are willing and it's fair. But coaches making players fight or retaliate or players thinking they have to retaliate to be in the league is ludicrous. And too many good people/players have paid the price because of the old NHL way of thinking... I'm thinking of Rick Rypien, Derek Boogaard, and many others who have either died or have lifelong health problems because of the old style of hockey. For anyone who thinks we should get an enforcer just to protect players should give this a watch: https://youtu.be/txI16GT-P_M Update more articles: https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/pettersson-plastered-latest-example-of-nhls-failure-to-protect-its-stars https://nationalpost.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/trevor-linden-on-canucks-reaction-to-pettersson-hit-the-game-has-changed/wcm/40faef78-092a-41e0-a4cb-972d07030840 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelicHearts Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I think there have been several threads already made about this, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNucksfan Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, AngelicHearts said: I think there have been several threads already made about this, though. Not really. Some knee jerk reaction threads. And the PGT. This one will have all the content up front. Just need people to post links properly for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Still can't believe after all this talk about protecting the "kids" they let this happen to our 19 year old up and coming star. This looks bad on the Nucks not having his back. He is their meal ticket. In no way should 2 points have mattered. Its not like we are winning without him now. Its over. EP40 I have ur back buddy. I'll be at that first home game with my sign up against the glass... reading "DW Petey I would have stuck up for you" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 EP40 will be back next game. Watching the replay more closely, he lands on his arm/side. The head doesn't slam onto the ice, chances are he just got the wind really knocked out of him as he wasn't expecting that level of dirty play, and he was near the end of a shift. Both players were also stationary at the time the hit/slam occured, unlike for example when Mitchell destroyed Toews, end result is the forces we're talking about aren't really all that big, relatively speaking. We have 2 days off between games, Pettersson won't let this affect him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 The body slam was not necessary and should be a suspendible offence. It wasn't a hockey play. That is a 15 yard penalty in football where it is LEGAL to tackle people. I have no problem with the team playing to win the game, rather than playing for retribution. I know others don't share my opinion, and that is ok. Even after this win, I was upset. I would have been a hell of a lot more upset if somebody took a stupid penalty trying to enact revenge and we ended up losing the game. There is a time and place for everything. Matheson will get ******. Just not now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson-JH Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Also, if you guys watch the video... About 98% of the teams on both sides and the refs attentions were on the puck. Only two players were on to each other tuck away in the corner are Matheson and Pettersson. The teams do not released what's happening until after the whistle were blown and the situation were still uncleared. Keep in mind, we have the luxury to watch replays again. But, the players do not have the opportunity to watch replays on what really happened on the jumbotron, except for goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyBoy44 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I dunno. There's hits and then there's chokeslams. I agree about the lack of push back, but as a Canucks fan I've been desensitized to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DADDYROCK Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Personally I think if that was McDavid or Mathews or Johnny Hockey it would have been called a penalty. Right in front of the ref,pitiful excuse for a ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Check out what Matheson does with his stick. He lifts Petterson vertically. Took his feet right off and then slammed him down the ice without any protection for himself. This is exactly what the league is trying to take out of the game. Pettersson can take the initial hit into the boards no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounoush Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 That throw was not necessary. We'll make him answer for this next time. Now I just want to know that Pettersson will be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounoush Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 33 minutes ago, ReggieBush said: The body slam was not necessary and should be a suspendible offence. It wasn't a hockey play. That is a 15 yard penalty in football where it is LEGAL to tackle people. I have no problem with the team playing to win the game, rather than playing for retribution. I know others don't share my opinion, and that is ok. Even after this win, I was upset. I would have been a hell of a lot more upset if somebody took a stupid penalty trying to enact revenge and we ended up losing the game. There is a time and place for everything. Matheson will get ******. Just not now. This. It's like Sean Connery in The Untouchables. "Not this way...not this way." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Ever since the Bertuzzi hit on Moore, I get scared of retribution remarks, but I honestly would like some form of retribution against Matheson. Getting his clock cleaned on a good, hard, clean hit (like the Phillip Larsen hit) or getting smashed in a one-on-one fight. A 10-game suspension wouldn't hurt either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNucksfan Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, Me_ said: Check out what Matheson does with his stick. He lifts Petterson vertically. Took his feet right off and then slammed him down the ice without any protection for himself. This is exactly what the league is trying to take out of the game. Pettersson can take the initial hit into the boards no problem. Ya I couldn't tell if he slammed his stick into his groin or used it as leverage to lift Pettersson... either way it shows clear intent to injure and full on retaliation on Mathesons part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNucksfan Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 minute ago, -AJ- said: Ever since the Bertuzzi hit on Moore, I get scared of retribution remarks, but I honestly would like some form of retribution against Matheson. Getting his clock cleaned on a good, hard, clean hit (like the Phillip Larsen hit) or getting smashed in a one-on-one fight. A 10-game suspension wouldn't hurt either. I'm hoping at least 10 games... how serious is the NHL about cleaning up the game and protecting the players? if the NHL doesn't want to deal with it let the police start charging these hooligans with anything that is not in the spirit of the game... first player that does some jail time for Aggravated Assault will learn the lesson. Then all the fools who want to injure people will realize there is consequences to their actions... NHL players make too much money, "oh well I forfeited $30,000 no big deal..." make it $300,000 and 2 months in prison... Now we have people paying attention!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shekky Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 No reason for this kind of hit and then slamming him to the ground. Surprised there was no penalty on the play especially this happening right in front of the ref. Hope he's ok though only a young kid still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNucksfan Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 Hmmm it would be nice to get some slow motion video of the assault (yes I'm calling it assault now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tystick Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 What a POS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyM Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 The kneejerk reaction by Vancouver fans is understandable. I'm not saying it's right, but it's understandable. That was the city's adopted son getting slammed onto the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolboarder Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I agree. This is a new NHL that casual fans who is watching the NHL and saw that the Canucks did not retaliate and if NHL does not do anything about it, casual fans should begin to become disgust with the NHL itself for maintaining the old school thinking, not the Canucks. If the NHL decides to suspend Mathersons, then it will send a message on anything extra after the hit should not be allowed to protect other players from getting injured by the extra shots that is not necessary. Hits is good only if it's legal and if someone got hurt by legal hits then I have no problem with that. If they continue to allow the extra shots then they should be punished for their intention. If the NHL really want to protect their stars, it begins now and send a message that this type of extra shots like body slamming or cross checking after the hit should not be tolerated. It also cost the owner money by paying the extra salary by call ups and unable to have their star players playing for a while. If the extra unnecessary action is reduced, the injuries is reduced, the more money the owner is able to save. Is that what the league should aim for, concern for their safety and their bottom line: expense on paying salary to a call-up on NHL money which is still very expensive. If the NHL dishes out suspension for all types of cheap shots and the players who received the cheap shot did not get hurt would also send a message that their behavior on ice must also change for better. The players care about their bottom line: salary and they hate to lose their salary and the only place to start Is to stop this type of behavior on the ice. I love a clean hits like everybody else but it's the extra cheapies turned me off. Every time I see a game that does not involves the Canucks and other teams still do that to other star players has also turned me off. That is not a hockey play. What is the purpose of doing that? None. If the NHL decides to let it pass, it's a scary time for players at this point forward with their career on line and it could end at any time. With a high impact head injury could kill a hockey player someday from that type of cheap shot could happen. It is an open season to ALL hockey players in the league if the league let it pass, not just the Canucks. Had the NHL decided to suspend Moore from Naslund hit as an example, it would have save them money from legal costs in all of it and Bertuzzi's retaliation wouldn't happen in the first place. One thing I know, whatever we learn from history is doomed to repeat it and I really hope that NHL has learn their lesson and be serious about this issues that plagued the league from day 1, 125 years ago. The problem is that there were no video evidence for dirty plays but it existed and fights happened and became a tradition. Fights within the sports shouldn't happen if the league is serious about dirty plays that needs to be taken out of the game. Now we have video evidence and we should not tolerate them any longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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