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1 hour ago, Coconuts said:
They're really not, Makar is arguably top 5 in the league right now, if not top 3. Many would say #1 but there's argument for guys like Hedman and Josi.
After the season Makar just had he's left Hughes in the dust, which isn't a slight against Hughes in the slightest. One could argue Makar plays with a superior team, and this is true, but if you watched the Avs this season it was clear that Makar was the offensive engine.
Makar's top 3, soon to be #1 for years to come. Hughes will be top 10 for years to come... And maybe as high as top 5 in his prime. Very happy to say that... No comparisons to Makar, not fair to Hughes, we are very fortunate that Yzerman's only mistake since he's been GM of the Red Wings was taking Zadina the 2018 draft...
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30 minutes ago, RWJC said:
Huh?
You were attempting to point out Lindens change in messaging and to prove as much by posting the article. But what is glaringly obvious, and the only thing I gleaned, is a rookie President that was way over his head. I think our focus was on Benning so much, I forgot how inept Linden was at his job. Anyway, I digress, glad those days are long gone.
Love Linden as a player and person but he was a horrible President. But hey, Gretzky was a horrible coach so there's that! Lol
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8 minutes ago, RWJC said:
listen to the interview on this SNET link below. Might change your perspective on what was communicated by Linden, especially his emphasis/focus on younger players in an attempt to gain traction and acceptance from fans on his proposed rebuild.
he also discusses the lottery and not once says they are going to win it. In fact he states the opposite, that the odds favour movement amongst the top picking teams.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/team-president-trevor-linden-admits-canucks-rebuild/
That article.... Sounds a lot like how this looks...
So much fail...
Not Linden's best work.
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On 7/11/2022 at 10:58 AM, -AJ- said:
Agreed. Hoglander was pretty bad this past year, but it's far too early to write him off. If he was 25 or 26, we could be having that conversation, but at 21, he's still got a lot of growing to do.
He was rushed, period. Now the new management are going to have to help him unlearn some of the bad habit and flawed structure he played under. He's game though, his hard work ethic will help him come back better than ever. Might need to start in Abby though... He'll be good. Just a little patience.
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5 minutes ago, Pears said:
Leafs fans thinking they’d be getting a top prospect and a pick with Murray on suicide watch
They were expecting 50% retained, either Formenton or Pinto to take on Murray lol! They're pissed! Not to many fans trying to spin this lol!
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17 minutes ago, AlexBurrows14Yu said:
He’s won two Stanley cups.. plus they get more draft picks. Leafs won this trade.
So Murray's two rings are worth 4.7 mill aav alone? Because his play since his last cup isn't worth more than 1 mill aav. HUGE risk on the leafs part. IF they find a quality back up that can handle 30+ starts then maybe it's just kinda okay? However, finding a backup that can play that much, will cost 2+ mill at least. So they will have 6.5 to 7 mill rapped up in suspect goaltending? Not a plan I'd want to stand behind. Especially while they're in the middle of their competitive window.
Just wow...
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1 minute ago, Doxm said:
I have a STROOOONG feeling he isn't going anywhere and will walk at the end of the year. Management doesn't want to pull the trigger and for that they will pay the price.
I smell a STROOOONG scent coming from your STROOONG feeling.
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Would be great for our left wing... 2.5 mill cap hit rfa. Didn't have a great year. Probably get him at 5 to 5.25 at 4 years? Spit ballin... Of course JT would be going back Devils way. Could we get a 1st as well? Does a trade for Zacha make any sense at all, or are there better fits out there?
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45 minutes ago, iceman64 said:
With the shot lekki has, just that alone is something a lot of other picks don't have and only needs fine tuning by the looks of it but pretty sure he was picked to develop and trade, but not many have a shot like he does, probably better than 1/4 of the players in the NHL. That kid can pick a corner no problem and with gusto and not just his wrister either, saw him let loose a cpl of laser beam slappers too and he dangles like he was born doing it, you can tell he's having a lot of fun out there.
I'm happy with this pick, he can skate well too.
Can see him cracking a NHL roster in the future and doing it well.
Definitely trade bait in the making.. nice to see, we need every angle covered and that seemed to me a step in the right direction but still kinda sad we didn't get Bischel though. Would have been happier with that but whatever works right?
I think it was a sure fire safe pick... High chance of becoming a top 6 player on any team. But as you wanted Bischel and I wanted Öhgren... Not because they were the most skilled or bpa but because they would be a better fit for need on this team right?
Interesting thought that they may choose to develop and trade. A possibility. Another one, end of Boeser's contract (or last year) that they trade him and plug in Lekkerimaki in his place. Time will tell, regardless, at this time, he does appear to be the bpa at 15.
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Dubas taking another big swing... Unless Ottawa retains a good chunk of his salary, this would be a huge risk... $&!# it's a huge risk regardless. Perfect!!!
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It's a wait a see how these picks turn out. Question... How many here feel that Lekkerimaki will be the better pick versus Öhgren? Personally, I would have gone with Öhgren, because I feel we still need more grit and overall high end 200 ft players in our middle to bottom 6. Where as Lekkerimaki will be top 6 or bust (I don't think he'll bust though). But value wise, is Lekky the better choice (league wide compared to for this team). Obviously time will tell but at first glance between the two what say you?
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14 minutes ago, hammertime said:
This is hard for me to watch. I was really hoping watching these that I would see something I was missing with him when I watched the games the first time around and was tryng to watch all of the players of interest.
Pro's: I see a player that is incredibly offence minded. He offers great puck support in the offensive zone. He's good with quick stick lifts and pick plays to support team mates. He's sneaky af back door slides into open ice and we all know what he can do with his shot. He's got really good shake n bake getting defenders to move one way then catching them flat footed. I can see where his goal totals are coming from and it is hugely encouraging that he's able to score from everywhere and beat goalies clean. I also like that at least he was making superficial contact finishing some checks
Cons: Pretty sure he didn't make a single play on the defensive side of the puck in this entire 23min video. He's not Pete. Not one take away, not one hard backcheck. I saw a kid flying the zone the moment his team touched the puck looking to poach a breakaway on every puck possession.
Maybe he was instructed to do this I don't know? When he did get those opportunities he didn't have the separation speed and was easily neutralized on one occasion leading to a goal against where he could have curled and waited for puck support maintaining possession.
Camping out completely covered for that 2 line pass.
I won't go through the whole thing but you get the idea. I need to see more than goal scoring from him to get excited about. It's a good shift by shift there is lots to watch he's involved all of the time and his team is really looking to run the offence through his stick.
I really hope that we can get him in camp and relay some messages to him. He is incredibly talented but there are aspects he is going to need to take seriously to reach his NHL potential. I really want to see this kid evolve into an elite all situations goal scorer.
I agree with your assessment. However, it wasn't hard for me to watch him not be strong defensively. He wasn't pick for his 200 ft game... That would have been Öhgren.
As you observed, the offense ran through his stick... For a reason. He was by far the most gifted offensive player on team Sweden... Personally I prefer 200 ft players more. They're more reliable. Usually have a game that can translate with any style of play, and shine in hard gritty games. That's more like Öhgren's game... BUT the truth is, you can't teach pure skill, and this kid has it in spades. Right shot too. He works hard and once taught how to defend better, put on some weight, get stronger, he'll be a decent 200 ft player. He'll work at it. He has the right temperament.
He was compared to a slower Willie Nylander... I agree with that assessment at this point, but I think Lekke will be more devoted to becoming a better all around player.
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1 hour ago, qwijibo said:
You can’t give performance bonuses on a standard player contract. You can only add them to entry level contracts and +35 contracts.
Didn't know that thanks.
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14 minutes ago, Jester13 said:
On a serious note, is it a good or bad strategy to take, not allowing any other teams talk to his agent?
It's standard until the management team has exhausted all scenarios... It's been the media and fans that have assumed there's no option but trading JT. However, Rutherford and Allvin have mentioned more than once, they're looking to keep him if they can.
What I'm wondering, is are the nucks management pitching to JT's camp how his own career took off since he's been here. That he's settled and has great chemistry with his teammates... Really... Will he have a better opportunity then what he's already got? "Take 6 years at 8, front loaded with performance bonuses and a modified (10 team) no trade clause...and win with this core that you are a big part of." I'm starting to feel that he wants to stay, and is contemplating taking less.
Tell me I'm wrong....
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1 hour ago, Jester13 said:
So, rumour has it that Allvin won't let other teams talk to Miller's agent and that's what's blocking any trade(s)? Not sure how I feel about this, but I don't see why they wouldn't allow it, as it's certainly going to affect value that a team wants to offer.
I'm starting to have a bad feeling about this whole thing, that we're going to hold onto him and either crush his value more or, worse, lose him to FA for nothing one day. Tell me I'm wrong, please.
You're wrong.... There you happy?
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Voted good... Should be a how the &^@# should I know option!
I think our previous administration has left us with residual yips... 'Once bitten twice shy'... &^@# it.... We suffer from PTSD... Period. Look, the new guys just got here. Give them a moment to turn the ship around... Take a deep breath. We're okay.
There drafting at first glance looks decent all things considered. Kemmel vs Lekkemimaki, "who was the best pick", has just begun... It's all going to come down to development of these guys in the end anyway.
We just have to be patient. Let's see what the next week brings and go from there. Would I prefer, Yzerman, Sakic or Drury as our GM... Probably but Allvin may end up being one of the better ones on this list. I'm just so glad that we have moved on from previous 'management'. Healing can begin lol!
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2 hours ago, canuck73_3 said:
Getting rid of 1sts cause you suck at signing is not a positive. Spin it all you want Leafs blew it on Mrazek and Marleau.
Tavares next!
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I'm not as excited as I was for podkolzin.... But like podz, and especially Hughes, he fell to us. Based on skill alone, he was top 10. We should be happy for sure.
However, what I am excited most about is our new upgrades made development department. I'm really looking forward to seeing the results from the focus put into staffing full time support for our prospects in Europe and here at home in Abby. The Benning regime also preached developing their prospects but they didn't have the staffing in Europe to help those prospect or even enough in North America. Ryan Johnson and Chris Higgins did great work but they weren't given enough support. I'm very encouraged. With the proper development, Lekkerimäki could end up being a perennial 30-40 goal scorer playing with Petey. And being defensively responsible.
Good start for new regime!
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5 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said:
indifferent about the pick i don't expect him to crack the line up anytime soon. prolly ends up remaining in sweden till he's 21, 22 like karlsson before he's ready to make the jump.
Short of a major injury, he'll probably be playing in North America in draft +2 year (he'll be 19 turning 20).
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1 minute ago, Honourable Hughes said:
Miller
VAN 3rd 2022
—————-NYR 1st 2022
Scnheider
good?
They don't have a 1st.
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1 minute ago, DontMessMe said:
Prepare to be disappointed
I hold out hope because this isn't JB and JW... This is JR and PA. That might mean patience and a trade before FA.
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Just now, Honourable Hughes said:
Wtf, if Ottawa can sign a vet like Giroux, then they’re looking not too bad, especially their top 6.
No... They're already looking great up front, without Giroux. With him, they will be scoring 5 goals a game average... But letting in 6!
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Just now, DontMessMe said:
Aight does this mean JT value just went down
Nope, don't think they're in same market
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(Rumour) CGY Gaudreau seeking 10mill+ per year on new deal
in Trades, Rumours, Signings
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Thanks for that! I guess that proves even the considered best gms in the league aren't perfect. Anyway glad they $&!# the bed one pick before us. Not that zadina isn't good, I think he may have a break out year this coming season. Just Hughes was the bpa for sure.