louielouie1 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Don't forget, the Habs traded Halak after they road his back through the playoffs that one year. Same situation in Van? Maybe. Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrrrkes Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Well given the toxic relationship we as the fans and luongo have, it's safe to say that there is a high probability that he will be gone. If you look at his contract, there are still many years left on it and given the circumstances and how we have treated him, why would he want to stay in vancouver? The only question I have is how long is it before we start bashing schneider and giving him the luongo treatment when things aren't going well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt kilgore Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 If Gillis can move Luongo and his massive 12 year contract that only just began last year....a goalie that has consistently choked in big playoff games.....who has a tendency to get emotionally distracted to the point that it effects his play (ie. after letting in ONE suspect goal, may let in another within a few minutes because his head is still stewing about the previous one)....at 33 and seems to be in the decline.... even if he gets NOTHING in return other than the cap relief and maybe even has to include another player to sweeten the pot..... ......even so, he'd be one of the greatest GMs in the history of the NHL. Good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCityScout Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 as per "Rock Strongo" on Twitter: I imagine at this point that showing Mike Gillis a copy of Luongo's contract, would have the same effect a crucifix does on a vampire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCityScout Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 as per "Tony Gallagher" on Twitter: Luongo has an out in his deal in two years, and whichever club holds his contract has one two years after that, it's a four year deal now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB12 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 No, he is not going anywhere. If he does, then our salary cap years will be screwed. 2nd he's locked down, he's an NTC, which means he cannot be traded UNLESS he asks to be traded. 3rd, if we do trade him to another team, then we would have to pay the rest of his years salary up front to the other team, which would leave us like not a lot of money, 4th, there needs to be a team WILLING to afford his 12 year contract. And 5th again, HE'S AN NTC!!!!!!!!!! MG would be an idiot again to screw up the salary cap and to trade him!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy.crack.corn Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 No, he is not going anywhere. If he does, then our salary cap years will be screwed. 2nd he's locked down, he's an NTC, which means he cannot be traded UNLESS he asks to be traded. 3rd, if we do trade him to another team, then we would have to pay the rest of his years salary up front to the other team, which would leave us like not a lot of money, 4th, there needs to be a team WILLING to afford his 12 year contract. And 5th again, HE'S AN NTC!!!!!!!!!! MG would be an idiot again to screw up the salary cap and to trade him!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Canuckian Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 NTCs mean nothing if a player wants out. All it really means is that the GM can't just call up and say "you've been traded." They will have a sit-down sometime in June, discuss the future direction of the team, and how Luongo may or may not fit into that plan. This will be done after Gillis has made a decision on the coaching situation. I can see TB making a push for Luongo. Lecavalier also has a lengthy and expensive contract as does Malone, both players are considered as underachievers these days in Tampa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Aerosex Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 One thing I'd like to point out...Luongo's 1st season here he came in at 27. If Schneider were to have his 1st season as a starter next season, he'd be 26. He's entering his prime, and I think the best move to do now would be to make Schneider the starter. Remember, the pressure of playing in Vancouver didn't really get to Luongo his 1st season here. He was confident, brilliant...the only problem was the team in front of him wasn't really a playoff team. The possibility of having another ultra-talented goaltender in their prime, but with an elite team in front of them is drool worthy. I think we might be seeing the start of the Schneider era in Vancouver, but I'll never forget how Luongo managed to thrust our team into the spotlight and into contention....don't be ungrateful, he single-handedly abolished the idea of Vancouver as a goalie graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Ed Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Overreaction after one game. Let's wait a couple more and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Why would the OP start two identical threads with virtually the same titles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 If Gillis can move Luongo and his massive 12 year contract that only just began last year....a goalie that has consistently choked in big playoff games.....who has a tendency to get emotionally distracted to the point that it effects his play (ie. after letting in ONE suspect goal, may let in another within a few minutes because his head is still stewing about the previous one)....at 33 and seems to be in the decline.... even if he gets NOTHING in return other than the cap relief and maybe even has to include another player to sweeten the pot..... ......even so, he'd be one of the greatest GMs in the history of the NHL. Good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RO8!! Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 For Luongo fans, but for fans of the Canucks as a team, It's a great news because we kept the younger and better goaltender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 It was a couple of good games by Schneider, and ones in which the whole team played better and gave him lots of help. How quickly people forget that Luo was actually very good in those first 2 games without any real help from his team, and sometimes with them actually getting in his way or falling on top of him. If it hadn't been for Luo those games, especially game 1, would have likely been blowouts like the Pitts/Philly game last night. And how easily people forgive Schneider while holding a grudge, even an undeserved one, against Luo. Had Luo been in net in game 3 and had played the exact same way, people would have blamed him for the LA goal, calling it poor rebound control and said he lost us the series by letting in that one goal. And they would have blamed him for the sole LA goal in game 4 (though it didn't really matter) but seem to ignore the fact that Schneider probably should have had that one. If we can see that Schneider is awesome even though he makes a few mistakes (as all humans do), why can't we accept the same for Luo? I don't know why they decided to start Schneider last night but I won't be surprised to see him back in net for the rest of this series. He is awesome and for whatever reason it's working with him in net right now and when everything is on the line, you don't tamper more than necessary. That being said, if we make it to the next round, hockey gods willing, I'd still expect to see Luo start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamspuzzum Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I love Lu, but even he knows it.. just look in his eyes when he's on the bench. Schneider was Vancouver's 1st round pick in '04, so they've been grooming him for this for 8 years.. that's too much effort to just trade all that talent away now. I'd love to know what Lu said to Schneider at the end of game 4.. his glove was concealing it from the camera. I could see him saying "It's all yours bud, take it and run with it!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigUncle16 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I think "better" is a stretch. If people think we are just gonna switch Lou for Schneids and win the cup I think they are in for a rude awakening. I hope I am wrong and we come all the way back and go on to win the Cup but it just isn't realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck7611 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I know everyone has been saying that Luongo played great in games 1 and 2 bla bla. However if Schneider was in net for those games, I am certain he would have done just as well if not better. People keep on bailing out Luongo by saying that "it was a 5 on 3 PP so cut him some slack".....Bottom line it was a bad goal and Luongo seemingly lets in a puck between the legs every damn game. Schneider simply does not allow these cheap goals on a consistent basis. While Luongo has been a good goaltender for many years, it's Schneider who can make the critical save to prevent an equalilzer or to prevent a 2 goal margin. With Luongo in a pressure game, there is always the dreaded goal between the legs or the potential of a mental breakdown after a bad goal. 1-0 Kings can become 2-0 and then 3-0 in a matter of minutes with Luongo. Schneider plays without the same pressure and the whole team plays more confident knowing that they won't be letdown at a crucial part of the game. Schneider is the man and thank god it took this long for AV to realize it in the playoffs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuckFanLivingInCalgary:( Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Believe me. Luo will ask for a trade. Do you think he will want to be a backup??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Believe you? Did you ask him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 For all the people still thinking about trading Luongo and any associated conversations, CapGeek tweeted this today: Lots of questions about Roberto Luongo's NTC. He has a full NTC but it does have a few stipulations. #NHL #Canucks Most pertinent Luongo NTC stipulation is that after final 2013-14 game, he can supply five-team trade list valid through July 15, 2014. Note that's *trade list*, not *no-trade list* ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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