-Vintage Canuck- Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Shane Doan saga drags on: Entering mid-August, there appears little indication the Shane Doan free agent watch will end anytime soon. On Wednesday, the New York Daily News reported Doan’s agent, Terry Bross, acknowledged his client had received a four-year contract offer worth at least $7 million per season from a team outside New York, a hefty deal for a veteran right winger due to turn 36 in October. Taking Bross at his word, we know the New York Rangers aren’t keen to invest that much time and money in Doan, even though they have the cap space (more than $11.6 million) to do so. Having previously overpaid defenseman Wade Redden only to bury his $6.5-million cap hit in the minors to free up space, Rangers management is probably leery of making the same mistake with an over-35 player, because that salary can’t come off the books quite so easily if he doesn’t work out as planned. That doesn’t mean the Rangers are dropping out of the bidding for Doan, but if he decides to join them, it’ll have to be for less than four years and $28 million. Bross’ comments once again generated speculation over which club - rumored to be from the Eastern Conference - made that offer. His claim that the offer came from outside New York would also rule out the Islanders. Even if they did make that bid, Doan wouldn’t be interested in going there. A quick look at the payrolls of the Boston Bruins, Philadelphia Flyers, Montreal Canadiens and Tampa Bay Lightning rules them out, unless they’re willing to shed salary to free up sufficient cap space. Given the Flyers’ defensive problems, they’re most likely out of the Doan sweepstakes now. The Buffalo Sabres, who’ve been fairly quiet this summer, have $8.7 million in cap space, but a new contract for restricted free agent center Tyler Ennis could take up a sizable portion. They need more experienced skill at center, not on the wings, and have depth in defensemen they could shop as trade bait to address it. The Toronto Maple Leafs have more than $9 million in cap space, but Doan wouldn’t address their need for a first-line center or an experienced starting goalie and GM Brian Burke won’t saddle himself with that kind of contract on an aging winger. Two other Canadian teams, the Ottawa Senators and Winnipeg Jets, also have plenty of cap space, but both appear content to build from within with younger and more affordable talent. The Carolina Hurricanes have more than $12.9 million in cap space, but they’ve already addressed their need for a scoring right winger by signing Alexander Semin. GM Jim Rutherford is expected to turn his focus toward adding more grit to his checking lines. Florida Panthers GM Dale Tallon went on a major spending spree last summer to turn his club into a playoff contender. Having achieved that goal, he’s kept his wallet closed for the most part this summer. If Tallon does make a major move, it could be trading for Vancouver Canucks goalie Roberto Luongo rather than chasing another free agent scoring forward. The New Jersey Devils lost left winger Zach Parise to free agency last month and have the cap space to make a big-money pitch to Doan. Problem is, team owner Jeff Vanderbeek reportedly continues to have financial problems, making their pursuit of Doan unlikely. That leaves the Pittsburgh Penguins and Washington Capitals. The Capitals cut ties with Semin, leaving a significant void on the right side heading into this season. Apart from acquiring center Mike Ribeiro via trade, GM George McPhee has been quiet and still has more than $10 million in cap space. Though the Capitals could use someone like Doan, it’s hard to believe McPhee would invest that much for that long in an over-35 winger. The Penguins lost out in the bidding for Parise and Rick Nash last month and might be willing to gamble on Doan keeping his numbers up playing alongside Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin. Josh Yohe of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review recently said he didn’t believe the Penguins’ offer for Doan was the highest. Though there’s mutual interest between Doan and Penguins management, Yohe said he’d be surprised if the long-time Coyotes captain signed with Pittsburgh. For every reason that can be given for one of those Eastern teams to make such an expensive, lengthy bid for Doan, there’s also good reason as to why they shouldn’t or couldn’t. So the guessing game over the identity of the mysterious “outside-New York” Eastern team willing to make that offer continues. Meanwhile, one Western Conference team remains very interested in Doan, while another has apparently dropped out of the bidding. Nashville Predators coach Barry Trotz informed The Tennessean he has been in contact with Doan for more than a month, claiming his club remains on the short list of the winger’s preferred destinations. The San Jose Sharks, meanwhile, apparently dropped out after learning the Doan camp was seeking a four-year contract. And all this speculation will be for nothing if Doan decides to re-sign with the Coyotes. http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/48224-Shane-Doan-saga-drags-on.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 A listers on Van imo = Sedins, Kesler, LA - Kopitar, Doughty, Richards Boston - Chara, Thomas, Bergeron, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marinated.pea Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 *eye twitch* 7 mil cap hit. Thanks but no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowmatic Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Shane Doan saga drags on: Entering mid-August, there appears little indication the Shane Doan free agent watch will end anytime soon. On Wednesday, the New York Daily News reported Doan’s agent, Terry Bross, acknowledged his client had received a four-year contract offer worth at least $7 million per season from a team outside New York, a hefty deal for a veteran right winger due to turn 36 in October. Taking Bross at his word, we know the New York Rangers aren’t keen to invest that much time and money in Doan, even though they have the cap space (more than $11.6 million) to do so. Having previously overpaid defenseman Wade Redden only to bury his $6.5-million cap hit in the minors to free up space, Rangers management is probably leery of making the same mistake with an over-35 player, because that salary can’t come off the books quite so easily if he doesn’t work out as planned. That doesn’t mean the Rangers are dropping out of the bidding for Doan, but if he decides to join them, it’ll have to be for less than four years and $28 million. Bross’ comments once again generated speculation over which club - rumored to be from the Eastern Conference - made that offer. His claim that the offer came from outside New York would also rule out the Islanders. Even if they did make that bid, Doan wouldn’t be interested in going there. A quick look at the payrolls of the Boston Bruins, Philadelphia Flyers, Montreal Canadiens and Tampa Bay Lightning rules them out, unless they’re willing to shed salary to free up sufficient cap space. Given the Flyers’ defensive problems, they’re most likely out of the Doan sweepstakes now. The Buffalo Sabres, who’ve been fairly quiet this summer, have $8.7 million in cap space, but a new contract for restricted free agent center Tyler Ennis could take up a sizable portion. They need more experienced skill at center, not on the wings, and have depth in defensemen they could shop as trade bait to address it. The Toronto Maple Leafs have more than $9 million in cap space, but Doan wouldn’t address their need for a first-line center or an experienced starting goalie and GM Brian Burke won’t saddle himself with that kind of contract on an aging winger. Two other Canadian teams, the Ottawa Senators and Winnipeg Jets, also have plenty of cap space, but both appear content to build from within with younger and more affordable talent. The Carolina Hurricanes have more than $12.9 million in cap space, but they’ve already addressed their need for a scoring right winger by signing Alexander Semin. GM Jim Rutherford is expected to turn his focus toward adding more grit to his checking lines. Florida Panthers GM Dale Tallon went on a major spending spree last summer to turn his club into a playoff contender. Having achieved that goal, he’s kept his wallet closed for the most part this summer. If Tallon does make a major move, it could be trading for Vancouver Canucks goalie Roberto Luongo rather than chasing another free agent scoring forward. The New Jersey Devils lost left winger Zach Parise to free agency last month and have the cap space to make a big-money pitch to Doan. Problem is, team owner Jeff Vanderbeek reportedly continues to have financial problems, making their pursuit of Doan unlikely. That leaves the Pittsburgh Penguins and Washington Capitals. The Capitals cut ties with Semin, leaving a significant void on the right side heading into this season. Apart from acquiring center Mike Ribeiro via trade, GM George McPhee has been quiet and still has more than $10 million in cap space. Though the Capitals could use someone like Doan, it’s hard to believe McPhee would invest that much for that long in an over-35 winger. The Penguins lost out in the bidding for Parise and Rick Nash last month and might be willing to gamble on Doan keeping his numbers up playing alongside Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin. Josh Yohe of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review recently said he didn’t believe the Penguins’ offer for Doan was the highest. Though there’s mutual interest between Doan and Penguins management, Yohe said he’d be surprised if the long-time Coyotes captain signed with Pittsburgh. For every reason that can be given for one of those Eastern teams to make such an expensive, lengthy bid for Doan, there’s also good reason as to why they shouldn’t or couldn’t. So the guessing game over the identity of the mysterious “outside-New York” Eastern team willing to make that offer continues. Meanwhile, one Western Conference team remains very interested in Doan, while another has apparently dropped out of the bidding. Nashville Predators coach Barry Trotz informed The Tennessean he has been in contact with Doan for more than a month, claiming his club remains on the short list of the winger’s preferred destinations. The San Jose Sharks, meanwhile, apparently dropped out after learning the Doan camp was seeking a four-year contract. And all this speculation will be for nothing if Doan decides to re-sign with the Coyotes. http://www.thehockey...a-drags-on.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMR Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 A listers on Van imo = Sedins, Kesler, LA - Kopitar, Doughty, Richards Boston - Chara, Thomas, Bergeron, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 what a weird article. He doesn't even mention the Canucks even though it is clear that they are in the hunt for his services and would be a desirable location for Doan. I can't figure out why he would basically run through all the teams interest and not mention the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 I'd argue Quick is as much an A-Lister as Thomas (if not more). What's interesting about that list then is that those cup winning teams have A listers in all positions (forward, defence, goal), while we only have forward A-Listers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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73 Percent Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Luongo is an "A-lister" and is currently still a Canuck. He's a top 10 goalie in the league who's won a gold medal. Corey Schneider beat him out for his job...I think we're doing ok there. Hamhuis is HUGELY under rated...if he's not an A-list D-man, he's an awfully "close B+-list" at the very least. Edler, (if he can ever find consistency) would be in that discussion as well. Before anyone starts whining how neither compare to say Weber or Lidstrom... players like them, or say Crosby etc are generational superstars. They're above mere A-listers IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYZ BELIEVE Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 what a weird article. He doesn't even mention the Canucks even though it is clear that they are in the hunt for his services and would be a desirable location for Doan. I can't figure out why he would basically run through all the teams interest and not mention the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotesMagotes Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 what a weird article. He doesn't even mention the Canucks even though it is clear that they are in the hunt for his services and would be a desirable location for Doan. I can't figure out why he would basically run through all the teams interest and not mention the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks.brad Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Oh, yeah...that would certainly be my big concern if someone threw $30 million my way. What do you think the cost of living is in New York City? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Word on Wednesday night out of Shane Doan’s camp is that he’s getting close to “putting pen on the paper” on a 4 year deal, and it’s believed to be with the Coyotes. Potential owner Greg Jamison is finally getting closer to purchasing the team. http://insidepittsburghsports.com/story/morning-nhl-buzz-shane-doan-getting-close-to-finalizing-four-year-deal-with-coyotes/51584/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiwanchik Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Worst sports business decision? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 He's holding up the Luongo and Bobby Ryan trades. It's been 40 days since "Free Agency" began. Ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsandwiches Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 I would be overjoyed if we could put forth the effort in getting Bobby Ryan in a Canuck uniform then waste more time waiting for Doaner to make up his mind. Ryan or offer sheet E.Kane!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenalian Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Word on Wednesday night out of Shane Doan’s camp is that he’s getting close to “putting pen on the paper” on a 4 year deal, and it’s believed to be with the Coyotes. Potential owner Greg Jamison is finally getting closer to purchasing the team. http://insidepittsbu...-coyotes/51584/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RunningWild Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 And that's already been de-bunked in this thread. Apparently Doan and Bross haven't spoken w/ the Coyotes since June Post #1543 As per John Gambadoro, the only truly legitimate source for Doan news this whole fiasco, the Coyotes and Doan have not discussed contracts since early June. They have not been talking about a contract, contrary to reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenalian Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 John Gambadoro also tweeted this stuff after that tweet: "I expect they will begin in next day or two" "I expect he will get a 4 year deal in the 6 mill per range" "He hasn't signed with another team because he desperately wants to stay here and if the sales goes through likely will." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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