canucks155 Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 If you want to talk about stats, Sestito's 42 goals in 60 games say hiExcept Sestito can't skate for s***. He was drafted in the 3rd round and wasn't as hyped as Virtanen. Virtanen can do it all, including ripping it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 So is yours of saying we could use 2 Kassians; w/ Ritchie I'm assuming. That would be an assumption. The point I was making is there isn't really any sound logic to the idea that 'we don't need player x because they are similar to player y'. If this team had two Zack Kassian's, they'd have two big, fast powerful players with great vision and tremendous playmaking abilities for a player of that ilk, who can also score some goals, and drop the odd Ben Eager when he thinks of taking a run at the Sedins. I'm not a fan of the common habit people have of trying to reduce prospect to prototypes of an existing player. Ritchie = Kassian isn't really any more appealing than the nonsense that Virtanen is a better Kassian. Even if players were highly comparable, it would not be much of an argument for overlooking any of them. Could a team use two Sedins? Yeah, probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Balance is overrated, if we had a dozen Keslers, we would dominate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks155 Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 Balance is overrated, if we had a dozen Keslers, we would dominate.That would be awful. Diving all over the place and multiple injuries. I'd rather have the Sedins and others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 He seems to have that douchey quality that is proving to have success in the playoffs lately. Doing that to the other bench is a bit junior, but hopefully as he gets older he can bring his pest tactics up to an NHL level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Tired of weak junk.Tired of slow garbage.This kid is elite-level fast, tough and can score highlight-reel goals. He's WAY better than Booth was as a prospect, so I laugh at that comparison. This 'he has no vision' mythology is false. He's not playing with the best teammates ever. Give him Drouin like Ehlers has the benefit of playing with and watch him dominate the CHL entirely. He's not a lightweight floater. He has WAY more legit NHL upside than those floater types. And he's not a total chunk like fatboy Ritchie. The best part is he's only just begun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Said it in February, we get a top 10 pick, best hope we get Virtanen plus he's a hometown boy. Won't be able to land the top 5 so if they go accordingly, Virtanen is who we should take without a doubt imo so it doesn't kick us in the butt if we don't in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks155 Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 He seems to have that douchey qualityI just lost it at that, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Virtanen undoubtedly has the best skating in this draft, and that's consensus among all scouting services. His shot is killer too, hell of a wrister with firepower to boot. He is also very physical in an already physical WHL, as he hits even while carrying the puck. He does all this at 17, nearly a year younger than his draft eligible counterparts. People try to limit this kids potential by comparing him to the minimal skill sets they know and minusing factors that Virtanen isn't great in. At this point I can't see a real knock, other than playmaking but not every player has every ability. That is horse crap. Ehlers is way faster than Vitanen. Ehlers has been described by many as the fastest in two years. That includes MacKinnon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuongo Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks155 Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 And he's not a total chunk like fatboy Ritchie.You're going to get RIPPED by ppl for saying that lol. I agree w/ your comment tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks155 Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 NO!care to elaborate y not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 That is horse crap. Ehlers is way faster than Vitanen. Ehlers has been described by many as the fastest in two years. That includes MacKinnon.While it's true that Ehlers is as fast as the breeze, he can also be knocked over by one. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Not sure if anyone has seen this video, but it's Virtanen mic'd up at the Top Prospects game. What I find impressive about him is that he's one of the youngest players in his draft class and won't turn 18 until August, yet he seems to have a leadership presence about him with the way he interacts with the players from various teams, and in return how they interact with him. http://www.bmotopprospects.ca/video/index/id/264ad63f4ed296bd3e25a24ddc7a1257 At one point, Ehlers is standing right beside Virtanen and it surprised me that he didn't look out of place size wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Fatboy ritchie's going to have a longer career than virtanen. Quote me on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I'd take Virtanen any day of the week over Ehlers. Ehlers wouldn't make it in the west, just imagine him playing against the Kings or Sharks. He would die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Fatboy ritchie's going to have a longer career than virtanen. Quote me on thatA career eating doughnuts maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Maybe we should look into another top 10 pick, as we should have done last year..............Edler....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChill Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 He is not worthy of a 6th overall pick. He has a low level of hockey-IQ, not NHL (or let alone a high-level) calibre at any degree. GREAT player, I love Virtanen, but I would only draft a finisher of his level at a pick of 9 - 15. Nick Ritchie is NOT Zack Kassian. Ritchie started out as a playmaker, working on his size and speed, and then as he grew in size, he learned to pick corners with more shots that he would take at the net. He learned that shooting with accuracy is just as important as feeding the puck to players like MacKinnon and Drouin at the U18s. When he reached the OHL level, they directed him to play a gritty, Milan Lucic-style PWF game. He is big, mean, dominant, and undeniably skilled. Not that Kassian isn't, but Kassian was never considered to have top-5 skill. If Ritchie had been healthy for the entirety of his junior and youth league career, he would be the top prospect in this year's draft. Concussion issues, and that shoulder injury bug have bogged him down in the rankings as an injury prone player with a high-risk, ENORMOUS-reward factor. Injury prone is the word for not worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks155 Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 Fatboy ritchie's going to have a longer career than virtanen. Quote me on thatDoubt it considering he's battled w injuries, weight issues like u mentioned and inconsistency. Jake's going to be better than him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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