X-PatLostInEdm Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 source?the coach. Post-game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux4lyfe Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 McDay to Day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 source?http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=786236&navid=nhl:topheads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 This is the risk you take putting 18 year olds into the lineup.Sure they may be ready skill wise, but they're rarely ready physically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 McDay to Day?McDone. maybe McCann has a shot to be rookie of the yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 If it's separated or dislocated it could be anywhere from 4-12 weeks.Somewhere in the 6 week range is probably a safe bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigs Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Dylan Larkin's chance at the Calder may have just improved.Panarin says hello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Panarin says hello.All things equal I say Larkin would win it.Age has to be considered. What Larkin is doing is much more impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigs Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 All things equal I say Larkin would win it.Age has to be considered. What Larkin is doing is much more impressive.If we're going to use other outside factors other than performance in their rookie years, Panarin came over from Russia, didn't speak a word of English, and has had to adjust to North American ice....something he's never played on before, whereas Larkin has grown up playing on NHL ice. Not that Larkin is bad, I'm just saying there are other circumstances to consider on Panarin's side of things as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 If we're going to use other outside factors other than performance in their rookie years, Panarin came over from Russia, didn't speak a word of English, and has had to adjust to North American ice....something he's never played on before, whereas Larkin has grown up playing on NHL ice. Not that Larkin is bad, I'm just saying there are other circumstances to consider on Panarin's side of things as well.Panarin is 5 years older. He played professional hockey in the second best league in the world for 6 years before coming to the NHL.Adjusting to North American ice and a language barrier is a minimal factor when comparing a 24 year old to a 19 year old coming from 1 season of college hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 But at ~5 years older he should be expected to be able to do that with more overall experience playing hockey. Not saying one or the other is definitively better, but the 24 year old should always play better hockey than the 19 year old. If they are at par, then it's more impressive for the teen to be at that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NazzyHankBo Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 This is the risk you take putting 18 year olds into the lineup.Sure they may be ready skill wise, but they're rarely ready physically.I think a 24 yr old who weighs 220 lbs would have been hurt on that play, watch the replay, its not due to being physically 'ready' (which McDavid is btw). It was a bad trip near the boards, 2 200lb players on top of him and hitting the boards with his shoulders at full speed.Sorry but even Todd Bertuzzi would be hurt on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NazzyHankBo Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 If we're going to use other outside factors other than performance in their rookie years, Panarin came over from Russia, didn't speak a word of English, and has had to adjust to North American ice....something he's never played on before, whereas Larkin has grown up playing on NHL ice. Not that Larkin is bad, I'm just saying there are other circumstances to consider on Panarin's side of things as well.Linden v Brian Leetch same thing...Linden should have won the Calder, Leetch had 3 years in college over him....but ...didn't matter. If age and experience mattered Linden would have won regardless of the fact that Leetch had 11 more points (and an amazing season, don't mean to take anything away from him). But as a rookie on a crap team, Linden had 30 goals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux4lyfe Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 This is the risk you take putting 18 year olds into the lineup.Sure they may be ready skill wise, but they're rarely ready physically.Except if your last name is Virtanen, You'd get laid out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Linden v Brian Leetch same thing...Linden should have won the Calder, Leetch had 4 years in college over him....but ...didn't matter. If age and experience mattered Linden would have won regardless of the fact that Leetch had 11 more points (and an amazing season, don't mean to take anything away from him). But as a rookie on a crap team, Linden had 30 goals...Defensemen vs forwards is a different story though. A young D-man playing top pair minutes and putting up that many points has a little bit more weight to it IMO. It's alot easier for a forward to hide from mistakes as a rookie. Not a D-man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Dylan Larkin's chance at the Calder may have just improved.I think Larkin is a safe bbet for 4th runner up for the Calder if mcdavid is injured... The top 3 should be Jared mccann, Ben Hutton, and Jake Virtanen. In no Particular order =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Looks like he'll be out long-term, maybe a couple months? Lucky they have Draisaitl playing out of this world and Hall on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 source?seriously?Do you follow hockey outside Vancouver? Anyhow this will certainly shorten his season considerably. The Oilers offense has been good, Hall, Rnh, Mcjesus and Yakupov all are putting up very good numbers so far.I guess the one bright spot for the Oilers is Leon is absolutely ripping it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NazzyHankBo Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Defensemen vs forwards is a different story though. A young D-man playing top pair minutes and putting up that many points has a little bit more weight to it IMO. It's alot easier for a forward to hide from mistakes as a rookie. Not a D-man.I'm just saying, impact to his team, the fact Linden had NOTHING around him, and I actually had season tickets that year. He was deserving of the Calder, how many rookies get 30 goals with nothing around them?The point I was responding to was also (not taking anything away from Leetch who is a Hall of Famer for reason), that the age difference matters on the ice but not in the voting process (in regards to another post). An 18 yr old scoring 30 goals and 59 pts as a center vs a 22 yr old Dman scoring 71 (even though amazing, those 3 years make a difference in terms of preparation. Especially when playing vs men in US college over that period)There is no doubt being older and more experienced helps on the ice (its exactly the point you made earlier on being physically ready as well), my point was simply it makes no difference in the voting apparently, and the Linden/Leetch point was an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Linden v Brian Leetch same thing...Linden should have won the Calder, Leetch had 3 years in college over him....but ...didn't matter. If age and experience mattered Linden would have won regardless of the fact that Leetch had 11 more points (and an amazing season, don't mean to take anything away from him). But as a rookie on a crap team, Linden had 30 goals...If I'm not mistaken, Leetch was 20 and put up almost 70 points as a rookie Dman. That's tough to stand up to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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