Nessnuck27 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Pittsburgh is reportedly looking for a top 4 defensman and a depth forward.. so here is my proposal. Pittsburgh gets: Hamhuis, Prust (both 50% retained) Vancouver gets: Pouliot, Dumoulin, 2nd 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 they probably want a healthy top 4 defenseman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 48 minutes ago, Nessnuck27 said: Pittsburgh is reportedly looking for a top 4 defensman and a depth forward.. so here is my proposal. Pittsburgh gets: Hamhuis, Prust (both 50% retained) Vancouver gets: Pouliot, Dumoulin, 2nd 2016 Luongo says no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 18 minutes ago, thejazz97 said: Luongo says no you can retain 3 players salaries not one so your wrong. id rather retain half of vrbatas contract and hamhuis because they expire this yr. Then they can retain half of burrows and higgins contract before the draft and possibly get few draft picks for them. Leaves us with a ton of underachieving vets that are gone so the youngsters actually have more spots and gives us a ton of cap space to buy some decent dmen at free agency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Just now, canuktravella said: you can retain 3 players salaries not one so your wrong. id rather retain half of vrbatas contract and hamhuis because they expire this yr. Then they can retain half of burrows and higgins contract before the draft and possibly get few draft picks for them. Leaves us with a ton of underachieving vets that are gone so the youngsters actually have more spots and gives us a ton of cap space to buy some decent dmen at free agency You can retain two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 13 minutes ago, thejazz97 said: You can retain two. http://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-retained-salary-trades/ you can retain 3 salaries until the contract is finished. so luongo until 2021 counts as one then hamhuis and vrbata until the end of this season counts as 3. next yr we can either trade higgins and burrows retaining 1.25 on higs and 2.25 on burrows trade em for picks or we could buy them out where higgins cap hit for next two yrs would be about 825 k burrows would be 1.48 mill for two yrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 5 minutes ago, canuktravella said: http://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-retained-salary-trades/ you can retain 3 salaries until the contract is finished. so luongo until 2021 counts as one then hamhuis and vrbata until the end of this season counts as 3. next yr we can either trade higgins and burrows retaining 1.25 on higs and 2.25 on burrows trade em for picks or we could buy them out where higgins cap hit for next two yrs would be about 825 k burrows would be 1.48 mill for two yrs. Weird. I swear it was 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Nessnuck27 said: Pittsburgh is reportedly looking for a top 4 defensman and a depth forward.. so here is my proposal. Pittsburgh gets: Hamhuis, Prust (both 50% retained) Vancouver gets: Pouliot, Dumoulin, 2nd 2016 Pit says no to that as they lose in the end I believe. However, I like where you're going in the sense that I've been supportive of acquiring an asset like Pouliot for a LONG time now. With Pit struggling along right now Rutherford might (might) be swayed into giving up Pouliot. Problem is, Hammer is injured and they'd likely want a better contributor than Prust in the form of Hansen who, also unfortunately, just got himself on IR as well. I'd still like to know how JB convinces Hammer to waive his NTC since it's common knowledge he took a hometown discount to play here and absolutely loves being in this community. Calm down Smithers, we all know he's from there but you know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanB Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Fanuck said: I'd still like to know how JB convinces Hammer to waive his NTC since it's common knowledge he took a hometown discount to play here and absolutely loves being in this community. Calm down Smithers, we all know he's from there but you know what I mean. To my knowledge, through dozens of "trade Hammer for....." proposals, no one ever gives any motivating factors as to why Hammer would waive to go to another team. About the only thing I can see that would motivate Hammer to waive his NTC would be if he was being offered a spot on a team with overwhelming odds to win, or go very deep - like Washington or Dallas right now. Then, after establishing a place that would be a fit, you got to ask do they even want him and then the question is for what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Imo the deal is weighted a bit too much in Vancouvers favour. Hammer can always sign back here next fall. If I were him wouldn't mind getting out of here for a few months and possibly having a go at the Cup...then coming back to a team, he helped to build by sacrificing a few months of his time. Yeah, a bit unrealistic, but hey one can dream... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 No way we get that much value in return. Hamhuis + winger like Vbrata/Higgins/Prust + pick (2nd or later) is what it would take to get Pouliot or Doum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 20 hours ago, Nessnuck27 said: Pittsburgh is reportedly looking for a top 4 defensman and a depth forward.. so here is my proposal. Pittsburgh gets: Hamhuis, Prust (both 50% retained) Vancouver gets: Pouliot, Dumoulin, 2nd 2016 That's a pretty ambitious proposal. You might get Pouliot or Dumouin and the 2nd for those guys - whether they'd be interested in Hamhuis without knowing when he'll be healthy is questionable though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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